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Is weed bad? - Justin - 2010-06-13
As Rick said. Just because it's not as bad as other things in SOME regards, that doesn't mean you're justified in doing it. There's no real reason to smoke,drink, or do anything of those sorts.
Is weed bad? - Milelke - 2010-06-13
Hazzy Wrote:It's not a stupid comparison. You said it's addictive, and I posted a graph to show that it's not. Coffee is more addictive than weed. To claim that addictiveness makes something bad would imply coffee is a bad substance.I think I know what you're getting at. Anyway, even with what(ever) your saying, I'm apathetic, as long as you don't smell like it, I don't see you use it, and I don't smell it at any point, than go on with your life.
Alcohol and nicotine are both far more addictive than weed yet both are legal, albeit with age restrictions. To label weed illegal or even bad because of it's addictiveness is just flat out not true.
People should ask themselves why there doing pot? Can you name an actual benefit of smoking pot? Hmmm? If you say stress reliever, that's not a good one because a lot of things can relieve stress, medical purposes?, more than likely you do not need medical marijuana, Please, I must know.
Is weed bad? - Kalovale - 2010-06-13
Marston Wrote:You should've just Googled this or something.
I have learned a fair amount on this subject beforehand, indeed. I'm looking for subjective opinions and not really facts. I mean, how it is to people in another perspectives. I've been trapped in this reservation for so long that no matter what facts I present to myself, I still think it's better not to do it at all. And the problem is, that's a safe solution yet a rather evasive one. Instead, I was looking to take in something new so that I can open up my tolerance towards not just this issue.
For example, this is a very interesting analogy to me, since I have been explained to before how it is NOT addictive yet one can see no point in giving it up entirely:
Arrg Wrote:It's only addictive in the way that masturbation is addictive.Surely I can stop fapping any moment it is necessary, but the addiction itself lasts a lifetime. The only problem now is that masturbation does little harm to your body while marijuana seems to be notorious.
I don't smoke anything, I don't like drinking (I do on occasions though), I'm not expecting to start a more interesting life on the wild side. I just want to open up myself more to other people, I've been rather prejudiced in this department.
Milelke Wrote:People should ask themselves why there doing pot? Can you name an actual benefit of smoking pot? Hmmm? If you say stress reliever, that's not a good one because a lot of things can relieve stress, medical purposes?, more than likely you do not need medical marijuana, Please, I must know.
I think there are a lot of things people do just to enjoy life and nothing more. Any form of entertainment, in my opinion, serves that purpose solely. There are good and bad side effects to everything, but ultimately, they are what they are.
Is weed bad? - Worthyness - 2010-06-13
it can't be that bad if California is considering making it legal and thereby taxable...
Is weed bad? - butterfλi - 2010-06-13
Worthyness Wrote:it can't be that bad if California is considering making it legal and thereby taxable...
no, its just that we're so broke, our state government needs to sell weed for money
Is weed bad? - Hazzy - 2010-06-13
Milelke Wrote:People should ask themselves why there doing pot? Can you name an actual benefit of smoking pot? Hmmm? If you say stress reliever, that's not a good one because a lot of things can relieve stress, medical purposes?, more than likely you do not need medical marijuana, Please, I must know.
You don't need a moral reason to justify its use. You don't have to prove to anyone that SP is good for you to use it. Same applies to Alcohol, Tobacco, and everything else you use. When called into question, the only thing you have to prove is that it's not severely damaging, and even that changes with context.
Is weed bad? - JaredTheUnseen - 2010-06-13
I don't think weed is bad. I don't think people who smoke weed are bad. I do believe that people can be addicted to weed, but it's not as common as addictions to nicotine/tobacco. I don't think weed is bad for you physically. The only thing I have against weed is I hate how it smells. I think it's one of the worst smells ever. It doesn't come from me associating the smell with something "morally wrong" just that I really can't stand that stench. Although, to be fair, I do have a friend and her weed does not smell. So it doesn't bother me if she smokes it around me. Besides her though, every other encounter with weed I've had, it's smelt bad.
Is weed bad? - Khoi - 2010-06-13
Smoking cigarettes and cigars will have a higher chance of killing you. I've done:
-Cigarettes
-Cigars
-Weed
Personal preference, I didn't enjoy weed because of the smell. Though a small group of my friends does. Personally, I prefer expensive Montecristos (cigars) while drinking my hard Whiskey, and I slowly enjoy the cigar. I'm into more sophisticated stuff like that, so I didn't enjoy weed at all.
Is weed bad? - Dusk - 2010-06-13
Takebacker Wrote:In general, i've thought up so many good ideas while high than ever before.
A lot of things seem like good ideas when you're high.
Is weed bad? - Kevo - 2010-06-13
Apart from what everybody else said, the terrible smell of pot sticks to clothing and towels. I couldn't care less if people smoke pot as long as it's done away from me.
Is weed bad? - Russt - 2010-06-13
Rick Wrote:Can I punch you in the face because it's not as bad as stabbing you?
This.
TøbiasBlack Wrote:sorry pal, but anything you inhale that is more than just oxygen damages your lungs. smoke from weed will build up in there just as much as cigarette smoke will.
Nitrogen says hi. So does lettuce.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eooXNd0heM
I agree with you but it's not the smoke.
Is weed bad? - Takebacker - 2010-06-13
Dusk Wrote:A lot of things seem like good ideas when you're high.
Are you saying my buccaneer skill update list is in it's entirety a bad idea?
Because i would laugh.
Is weed bad? - Locked - 2010-06-14
Takebacker Wrote:So is sleeping on your side or cracking your knuckles but no one is complaining about that.
Those are both wive's tales.
Is weed bad? - Takebacker - 2010-06-14
Locked Wrote:Those are both wive's tales.
"A study concluded that there was no increased preponderance of arthritis of the hand in either group; however, habitual knuckle-crackers were more likely to have hand swelling and lower grip strength. Habitual knuckle-cracking was associated with manual labour, biting of the nails, smoking, and drinking alcohol in the study participants and their families. It was concluded that habitual knuckle-cracking results in functional hand impairment and therefore should be discouraged."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracking_joints
"It is the best for your spine if you had no pillow. Ideally, the best way is on your back with no pillow."
For side sleepers, which includes Early Show co-anchors Julie Chen and Maggie Rodriguez, Trespicio says the big problem with that position is putting your arm or hands under your head. "Resting your head (which weighs about 10 pounds) on your arm for hours at a time stresses the body, pressing on the nerves that run through the top of the shoulder and down the arm, resulting in numb fingers," she said. In addition, Trespicio says the shoulder you sleep on also gets hiked up toward your ear, which constricts the shoulder and neck muscles.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/16/earlyshow/health/main5091549.shtml
Is weed bad? - Gabe - 2010-06-14
humanity in general does things purely for pleasure, without needing a reason to do it or moral justification. it all comes down to "are you bothering people with it?" and "how bad is it really?"
i personally believe that i can do anything i want that gives me pleasure as long as i don't bother anyone doing what i do and no one should care about how bad something is for me, as long as i'm aware of anything bad that might come out of it. when i see a case like Syd Barret (pink floyd - LSD), Layne Staley (alice in chains - heroin) or any john doe with alcohol (drunken driving, domestic violence) happen with weed, i'll get second thoughts. right now, to put a couple examples, i see Bill Maher and Willie Nelson doing weed and they're living pretty good...
Is weed bad? - Rob - 2010-06-15
I actually took the time to translate this from a blog in spanish, and I think it's the pure truth behind what do you feel like when you're high.
Part 1
I wouldn’t want to encourage people to do drugs. I don’t know what it means but I always looked at it associated to bad stuff, and I don’t want no more trouble. Besides, there’s a lot of teenagers around focused on doing whatever.
I don’t know how the world was 10 years ago, I was just 17 and I just wanted to find out how was this ‘’pineappleing’’ thing. There’s evidence that pot was around everywhere for a while already: Cheech & Chong movies, Grateful Dead’s music, etc. Somehow, I didn’t see this at all and I thought marihuana was just something Americans smoked in high school and that only drug addicts consumed it here. The kind of guys that stab you just to steal your wallet because they want to buy cocaine, melanin or Iced Tea. I don’t know what they consumed because they are such druggies they do anything to get that pomegranate they take into their body.
[…]
Encounter.
The first time I smoked weed I was young. I was in high school. See why I don’t want kids to read? Hey, I wasn’t planning to do it, it just happened. I was walking by my brother’s room where he, my older brother and his girlfriend were smoking. They suddenly tried to cover it, but due to the fact they had a bigger smile than the cat in Alice in Wonderland, it was obvious they were up to something. I really had no idea on what they were doing because I had less knowledge of the streets than America before 1942, but they told me they were smoking and they even offered me some, arguing it’d be better to smoke in a family circle than with any retard out there.
I had no interest on smoking back then and I was kinda scared. We do thousands of things that are “bad” all the time. You can smoke a cigarette, which is legal but is pineappleing killing you and it’s looked down upon. I don’t know anyone that hasn’t downloaded an MP3, and that’s illegal as well.
[…]
When I looked up information about cannabis a couple years ago, I found the same thing I did now: It’s a psychoactive drug that affects the central nervous system altering perception, mood, consciousness and attitude. pineapple that, I want to know how it feels like to be stoned. Logically, I also wanted to know it’s cons and there’s various pages that detail them with more or less enthusiasm.
[…]
Effect one: I’m pineappleing stoned man.
First thing that happens after smoking weed is within the first 5, 10 even 20 minutes. It’s the same thing as always, and there’s always someone that states “Hey, I’m fresh as lettuce”, but suddenly the change can’t be ignored. Almost always it has to do with the last thing you were doing. If you were talking with someone, you realize you’re telling your friend thing you wouldn’t even tell your psychologist in therapy. If you were reading, you realize that you haven’t even read the last 3 pages and you were singing “Funky Town” in your head. If you were laughing, you can’t stop. It doesn’t matter how it happened: you always end up thinking “I’m pineappleed up mang”. It’s like a mini surprise party in your mind. All of a sudden everyone jumps out from behind the couch and you burst into laugh thinking “Oh, you guys, you always catch me off guard.”
Once you realize that for the next 4 hours you won’t be able to handle heavy machinery, the other effects start popping out.
Effect two: Reordering your priorities.
Let’s say that, for example, the “To Do” list of the day consists of:
- Mount the new desk for the compy.
- Ask Joe if I can go hang out.
- Talk to my girlfriend to see what is she doing tonight.
- Take a shower.
After a smoke the order is:
- Get some snacks
- Get something sweet or with a lot of sugar
- Go to sleep with my thumb in my mouth like Prince John in Robin Hood.
I never knew why I saw so many people with black glasses at the mart. I now know it very well.
Effect three: Ravenous hunger for goodies.
For a stoner, a supermarket aisle is like taking a dean from a literature college and making him time travel to the Library of Alexandria. I never stood for so long, and I mean like 6 or 7 minutes, reading the ingredients of every single snack in front of me. Visualizing how the chocolate chips blend with the vanilla dough. Tasting the mousse. Solving in an atomic scale how the different elements combine and how they are going to affect my taste buds… Like in the Schindler’s List, at that moment there’s nothing more important than saving a brand of cookies from that Goodies sector.
After putting all kinds of snacks and dairy products in my basket like I was a squirrel saving for the world’s end, and after picturing myself as the squirrel and wondering why my laugh is still human, I arrive to the cashier. A good moment to talk about another effect.
Effect four: Paranoia.
Nowadays it’s difficult to find someone that hasn’t smoked in his entire life, and even between those who haven’t, almost no one judges it as before. Running into a pothead is as repulsive/funny/indifferent as running into a drunkard, and most of the time you really have to pay attention to notice he’s high. However, when you’re stoned, and the most crucial thing in your life is finding some toasts, you realize than for someone not sharing your vision you’re a retard staring at a bakery like an idiot for 20 minutes.
That shame sometimes turns into paranoia. That’s why when you’re high, you don’t want anyone to notice. This is no easy task though, because, even though your acting all natural, your eyes state you’re more asian than a Japanese in Shinjuku.
Back to the cashier. You start passing him the goodies like nothing’s going on, because there is nothing going on. You separate the dairy products together, cookies according to their coating, you start noticing you’re overreacting, you stop doing what you were doing, you look at the cashier and you suddenly remember you have varicose veins on you eyes, then you start looking somewhere else, it’s 16 bucks 70 cents, do I have change? I think I have, nope, nope I have no change, haha, what are you laughing at idiot, did I say or think that? Crap, I’m already out of the mart! AHHAHAAAHA, MAN THAT TOOK FOREVER.
Effect Five: Times takes forever to pass.
In fact, everything happens the same way it always does. A humming bird flaps its wings the same number of times, you move at the usual speed, and every action has the same duration. But there’s a reason why the stones has that laidback-ness in everything he does. We all can remember how that minute before the bell rang, or that last traffic light, take forever to pass. Well, being high is like a lot of minutes like these.
See how in the soap operas they always say “I wish this moment lasted forever”? A couple moments later they are smoking a joint.
This is as positive as it is negative. Every stoner has experienced this: you’re with a couple of friends, you have already ordered a pizza and you have to go receive it at the apartment’s door, and when you come back someone yells at you “MANG YOU LEFT LIKE AN HOUR AGO”, and then you tell him “I never made it to the front door. I didn’t find the elevator” and everyone bursts into laughter. I bet only 15 seconds passed, but everyone inside was calling the cops because you weren’t coming back.
Worst part is when you actually go down to pick it up. I’ve grown old inside elevators. Go to the entrance, open the door, say hi to the delivery boy, wait until he grabs the money, lends you the pizzas, gives you the change, and you close the door, is such a complex action scheme that after you finish you feel tired and proud. It’s like finishing your career and taking your time to stare all the time and effort you put in that goal. Bah, I’m exaggerating; finishing your career isn’t as good as that.
And you have the trip back to the apartment on the elevator left. You feel like Santa Claus. After that crusade, when you finally arrive to the apartment and some idiot yells at you (again) “MANG YOU LEFT LIKE AN HOUR AGO”, but you can’t help but reply “I think longer”. The important thing is that the pizza is there and after the first bite you want to kiss the cook.
Is weed bad? - Tremulant - 2010-06-25
it's been proven that smoking weed can and will cause insanity
Is weed bad? - Berzerk - 2010-06-25
While is may not be directly horribly bad to your health, as much as a counterpoint in Alcohol and Cigarettes, it's not GOOD for you, regardless of what you say. Also, I've had several friends go from fun, great people who constantly loved just sitting around and having fun with each others company, to boring, dull, 24/7 pot smokers who do absolutely nothing with their lives. On top of that, since they've done pot, they were more open to do cocaine, pills, ecstasy, and other drugs. I'm sorry, but that makes me thing it's bad for you, again, not directly, but it leads into horrible habits.
While I've never done pot and will never try it (I think smoking anything is rather disgusting), I don't mind if my friends do it, as long as they don't turn into some papayagot that would rather go and smoke pot than hang out with a group of friends, but I think when you hit a certain age, it's time to be a functional human being and quit doing it.
Is weed bad? - ZottenKerel - 2010-06-29
If you'd have to go for an addiction, weed is probably the least harmful out of the most well-known (drugs-alcohol-tabaco-cafeine abuse).
However this in no way advocates for using any, as it is still an unhealthy and expensive way of achieving what you could also achieve when sober: happieness and carelessness.
I had a co-worker about a year ago who had been smoking several joints daily for about the past 35 years. He was seriously slow, borderline sluggish. Everything you'd say, you'd have to repeat 4 times, since he just didn't get it. Even the simplest of things. This while he did get a bachelors degree in accounting when he was in his early 20s, so he clearly did have potential. He just really messed it up killing all his braincells and even ended up losing the job, 'cause he just couldn't keep up.
Having fun is fine, but damaging or jeopardising your health is srs bsns. I drink maybe once a month, never smoked or done drugs. If you're desperate for social acceptance and cave for peer pressure, stick to low dosis of whatever you do. I think doing weed would be fun, I truly do, I just don't even concider it because my health means more to me than an evening of fun I probably won't remember with people who won't remember it too well either.
Is weed bad? - Rob - 2010-06-29
I'm sad no one took the time to read my previous post :/