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Strikers Vs Buccs - Link - 2009-09-25
^ I think stunned Critical should be multiplicticactive, or whatever the hell that word is. That would give a major boost, instead of Critical only giving about 3k damage higher per attack. x_x
Strikers Vs Buccs - Takebacker - 2009-09-25
ShiKage Wrote:^ I think stunned Critical should be multiplicticactive, or whatever the hell that word is. That would give a major boost, instead of Critical only giving about 3k damage higher per attack. x_x
Multiplicative.
I agree, but crits would have to be adjusted. Probably 35% chance of 1.6x damage, with SE it'd be 50% chance for 2x damage.
Strikers Vs Buccs - Manu - 2009-09-25
Buccs should be changed to have 40% to do 1.5x damage passive instead of the critical on stuns only.
Or make it so that on bosses you have that chance, and on normal mobs it needs stun.
Strikers Vs Buccs - KaidaTan - 2009-09-25
Dusk Wrote:Skill.wz would beg to differ. z is 50, which means it's 1.25 to elemental weak.Oh crap, it is? My friend kept insisting that they have the same elemental advantage as Paladins. Fixing~
Okay, they're still higher than Buccs at 96k DPS.
So Strikers are only stronger than level 200 Buccs on single targets if the target is Thunder weak, not stunnable, and they have Sharp Eyes. Realistically, this is a worthless piece of information since the only monster that fits this description is Tengu. Still, it only helps prove how incredibly strong Strikers are. Sparks is as much to blame as Crit, by the way.
Strikers Vs Buccs - CarrionCrow - 2009-09-26
KaidaTan Wrote:Sparks is as much to blame as Crit, by the way.
Sparks does not add THAT much to the damage, crit is vastly superior for that. What makes sparks so good is the extra range it gives you, especially while using shark wave at typhons.
Strikers Vs Buccs - Ratatosk - 2009-10-15
Well this is a downer D:Well whatever, go Underdogs!
Strikers Vs Buccs - Moonlapse - 2009-10-15
I never played a bucc for the DPS anyways. I can get into boss runs easily, so I'm cool.
Strikers Vs Buccs - kranten - 2009-10-18
Would buccaneers be OP if they had something like a slow effect, instead of stun, that would work on bosses? (with SE)
Strikers Vs Buccs - Cyanne - 2009-10-18
CarrionCrow Wrote:Sparks does not add THAT much to the damage, crit is vastly superior for that. What makes sparks so good is the extra range it gives you, especially while using shark wave at typhons.
Sparks is actually really powerful, especially because it also criticals. You'll notice a big difference in your killing speed in mobby areas such as blue kents or himes with 11+ sparks. It's also great at zakum where you can hit nearly all the arms with sharks due to its massive range, and sparks takes care of the weaker summons easily after the arms are down.
Strikers Vs Buccs - IllegallySane - 2009-10-18
kranten Wrote:Would buccaneers be OP if they had something like a slow effect, instead of stun, that would work on bosses? (with SE)
No. That'd defeat the purpose of them being untouchable and they'd lose their niche as a class that has spammable stuns to being overshadowed by Arans who already slow mobs. Leave my stuns alone, but find a way for them to still slightly crit without the need for stunned mobs.
Strikers Vs Buccs - Sn1perJohnE - 2009-10-18
Yea, as we've said before, something like halfed crit damage when unstunned, at half the rate.
Who knows though, even with stun crits, Buccs still deal out a decent amount of damage over time compared with other non-ranged adventurers.
Strikers Vs Buccs - gum - 2009-10-18
Moonlapse Wrote:I never played a bucc for the DPS anyways. I can get into boss runs easily, so I'm cool.
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Strikers Vs Buccs - ZottenKerel - 2009-10-19
So, shud I make a good breaker then? (You all I know I have the equips for one). And no offence, but I'm pretty sure secondary stat goes to 23 and not 22, right? Also 8375 (or whatever it was) clean range for a lvl 200? I'snt that really low? I'm almost at 8000@161. So yeah.. Make a breaker?
Strikers Vs Buccs - Winry - 2009-10-28
Just because you have 8k range doesnt mean anyone else does douwe :|.
Everyone knows you have over 9000 base atk. Mr. 150atk weapon, 43atk gloves, 37atk shoes, and 39atk cape. Srsly, listening to you brag is enough to make any mapler depressed.
Strikers Vs Buccs - Takebacker - 2009-10-28
Winry Wrote:Just because you have 8k range doesnt mean anyone else does douwe :|.
Everyone knows you have over 9000 base atk. Mr. 150atk weapon, 43atk gloves, 37atk shoes, and 39atk cape. Srsly, listening to you brag is enough to make any mapler depressed.
Don't forget dexless.
See, his equips are so good he has other people bragging for him. How sad is that?
Strikers Vs Buccs - Winry - 2009-10-28
I'm not bragging for him, he seriously makes me depressed everytime he talks about how much better he is than everyone else in guild.
On topic though: I have a 116 murderer thing & have recently made a striker.
While the striker is only lvl 28, I'm having more fun on it than I do on the murderer.
Strikers Vs Buccs - Takebacker - 2009-10-28
Winry Wrote:I'm not bragging for him
I was though.
Strikers Vs Buccs - KhainiWest - 2009-10-28
Winry Wrote:I'm not bragging for him, he seriously makes me depressed everytime he talks about how much better he is than everyone else in guild.
On topic though: I have a 116 murderer thing & have recently made a striker.
While the striker is only lvl 28, I'm having more fun on it than I do on the murderer.
If you played 16 hours a day and played with your mother I think it wouldn't be too hard.
Strikers Vs Buccs - IllegallySane - 2009-10-28
Winry Wrote:Just because you have 8k range doesnt mean anyone else does douwe :|.
Everyone knows you have over 9000 base atk. Mr. 150atk weapon, 43atk gloves, 37atk shoes, and 39atk cape. Srsly, listening to you brag is enough to make any mapler depressed.
:^| Indeed
Strikers Vs Buccs - finalbragade - 2009-10-28
Wow... well there goes my insperation
