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Money for murder? - Thunda - 2008-07-25
Quote:-If you join the mafia and are a hitman and kill someone for money its known as the worst kind of crime and if you get caught you probably get incarcerated for a very long time.
-If you join the military and get sent out to war and kill certain people for money (you do get paid to be in the military, after all), it's more than likely you'll be treated as a hero to the people back in your country.
One sort of killing is destablizing society, so society punishes it. The other sort is (supposed to be) stabilizing society, so society is willing to pay for it.
Money for murder? - Derimed - 2008-07-25
To the OP:
People actually ARE confronted with this choice sometimes. I was reading BBC news online, and a FARC rebel, (they're guerrilas causing trouble in Latin America,) murdered his commander and his commander's girlfriend, cut off his hand, and got a huge sum, (I don't remember the exact sum, but it was at least a million dollars,) from the government. The government in trying to destroy FARC offered amnesty and the huge sums of money in order to shake up the organization. This caused some discomfort internationally because the government was publicly soliciting political assassination.
Money-making of this sort comes with its price. For example, when Arab terrorists killed 11 Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympic Games, the Israeli government launched a manhunt which ended with each responsible terrorist being assassinated. Even if I was the sort to consider murdering for money, getting involved in that sort of thing might be more than anybody bargained for. In other words, it's not just a matter of killing someone and getting the reward. Someone might come after YOU as a result of it.
Money for murder? - brightangel - 2008-07-25
MONEY MONEY! SO MUCH MONEY!
The amount of money might be alot but never would I kill someone just to get 10/25 million dollars.
Money for murder? - Berzerk - 2008-07-25
As self centered as this sounds, I exist to make my life the best it could possibly be. It's a shitty world out there, and it's a shame some don't realize this yet. Sure, killing someone for $10,000,000 sounds like a great deal. A friend? No way.
Money for murder? - thelagger - 2008-07-25
I'd do it only if that 'random person' would so be a person that did some horrific stuff to me or my family. If only 'that' person was at the wrong place at the wrong time, I'd do it!
But 10million can't last a lifetime, imagine all the cars, houses, bills, pomegranate, etc you have to pay for. Maybe for a billion dollars I'd do it
Money for murder? - Lylac - 2008-07-25
Chompy Wrote:So in the medical line... Hippocratic Oath I assume?That is an irrelevant scenario to the topic at hand.
Are you saying you would NOT sacrifice another for your child's life?
I would.
In a nano-second.
Money for murder? - ZYXWVUT - 2008-07-25
The horrors of anonymity. >_>
I'm not killing anyone for monies.
Money for murder? - Retalion - 2008-07-25
Lylac Wrote:No, I would not kill for any amount of money, and I'm sort of shocked at the replies I've seen on this thread.
I agree with Alysha. Wouldnt kill for any amount of money because no amount of money will make me live with my conscience for killing someone. I admit that at first I thought "That's a lot of money and it'd be a tough choice" but then I thought again and went "I cant believe I thought that". No amount of money will justify killing anyone. Its not up to me to determine who lives and who doesnt. Im not God, simple as that.
Money for murder? - Hazzy - 2008-07-25
I'd go sleepless for months if I did. .__.
There's no way I'd be able to do it, morally, even if I wanted to.
Money for murder? - ZYXWVUT - 2008-07-25
I just realized you could save a LOT more lives with that money.
Money for murder? - Hazzy - 2008-07-25
ZYXWVUT Wrote:I just realized you could save a LOT more lives with that money.
Is doing a bad deed for a good reason justified?
Money for murder? - xLeviathan - 2008-07-25
I wouldn't kill a friend for any amount of money.
A stranger, probably.
Sounds terrible, yeah, but let's face, money makes the world go round and Earth could probably use to lose a few idiots.
Excuse me if that offends you.
And ZYX has a good point, probably the best I've seen.
Sometimes you have to sacrifice one to save many.
Sure, that one thing may mean a lot but in the long run you're helping out a lot more by giving it up.
Things like that would be best done by people who have no connection to their victim.
Money for murder? - Derimed - 2008-07-25
The ultimate issue everybody here has to contend with is:
If you can justify to yourself the murder of an innocent for money, you then have no reason to complain when someone else, (be it an individual or a corporate entity or whatever,) also uses shady means to gain profit. Some of the people here might be mad at Nexon for being greedy, or Microsoft being greedy, or Bush being greedy and giving profits to the oil companies, etc. You cannot even be mad at the Italian mob doing rackets or assassinating people.
I mean, how can you justify being mad at those companies and individuals when you just justified 1st degree murder for money? It seems more than a bit inconsistent.
My point is, you have to keep your own personal ethics clean in order to with good conscience judge those you feel have erred. If you live with "selective morality" and are openly proud of it, then that can be a problem in certain circumstances.
Money for murder? - Berzerk - 2008-07-25
Hazzy Wrote:Is doing a bad deed for a good reason justified?
Do the ends justify the means? In some cases they do. Killing one person to potentially save more lives, so yes it's justified.
Money for murder? - Russt - 2008-07-25
No.
Aside from the fact that there's really no way to prove to yourself you'll never get caught. Conscience, you know.
Money for murder? - Derimed - 2008-07-25
Berzerk Wrote:Do the ends justify the means? In some cases they do. Killing one person to potentially save more lives, so yes it's justified.
Judging who is and isn't worthy of life is very dangerous. Nazi Germany began by killing the mentally ill and handicapped, moved on to gays, Jews, etc.
In the end it's probably best to say that anyone who is not a very bad criminal is worthy of life and leave it at that.
Money for murder? - Katie - 2008-07-25
I'd kill my ex husband in a damn heartbeat and not feel bad about it one bit =)
I just look at the money as child support for my son he doesn't see/pay for
Money for murder? - Berzerk - 2008-07-25
Quantact Wrote:Judging who is and isn't worthy of life is very dangerous. Nazi Germany began by killing the mentally ill and handicapped, moved on to gays, Jews, etc.
In the end it's probably best to say that anyone who is not a very bad criminal is worthy of life and leave it at that.
Well, here's an example. Say I did kill some 'average joe', blue collar on the street and go the 10 Mill. Say I donated 1/10th of that money to some cause in Africa. I'm sure $1,000,000 could save more lives than any of us could think.
Money for murder? - ItzTaylor - 2008-07-25
I think someone who kills someone should have their life taken away as well.
So no.
Money for murder? - Acim - 2008-07-25
Honestly, I may, probably would, kill someone for 10million dollars, unless it's someone I know. I would never kill a friend for $25 million.