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On the effects of ATT potions regarding bossing - DarkestTempest - 2009-05-18
MaxHudson Wrote:Somthing about GMS though with bossing. Before we got Leafry.
KMS had Leafry for a looong loonnng time. and it took months after months before they could kill horntail. I remember a thread just like this saying "Apples won't effect anything. There is no way a group could last/stay alive the entire battle without dcing/having to go!"
Then 1st day of leafry in Scania. "Horntail has been defeted" (Eather 1st or 2nd...) Yeah, Veng took HT down in a 1H~30M. So I have this feeling, once all the quests are done and a team in a strong server is set up, they WILL kill in there first try. Just where my bets are.
You must also factor in the fact that we had the experience of other versions. KMS had to start from a blank state not knowing anything, while we know exactly what to strike and when.
On the effects of ATT potions regarding bossing - LordVader - 2009-05-18
Well, we also have the lowest exp rate (some versions do have higher than us if i remember right), meaning it takes us longer to level. We have less high level areas to train, also means it takes us longer to level.
My opinion is apples make us more comparable to other versions where theres 1000+ lvl 200's on only a couple servers. I believe it was KMS that has over 1000 last time i checked.
Were kinda like the abused cash cow of maplestory. Other versions get the crap first, and we have to wait, while we probably generate the most cash gain for Nexon (this is America, and think about alllll the NX hoars you see).
just my opinions.
On the effects of ATT potions regarding bossing - JoeTang - 2009-05-18
LordVader Wrote:Well, we also have the lowest exp rate (some versions do have higher than us if i remember right).
We have the highest exp rate. I'm fairly sure no other version has had 4x exp stacking, let alone 8x.
On the effects of ATT potions regarding bossing - Hendrix - 2009-05-18
DarkestTempest Wrote:You must also factor in the fact that we had the experience of other versions. KMS had to start from a blank state not knowing anything, while we know exactly what to strike and when.
i didnt get the point of thread... lol
but what we missing is like he said, GMS players are way diff from other versions because we have spoilers about what is coming, with that players can take precautions to fight with bosses like HT and Pink Bean, we know already what to do and how to do. right now ppl are getting ready to fight pink bean, some look on forums, some hp wash, and some are just lvling to get into a fight. we already know about zombify, reflect and time limit on fight, same thing with horntail about seduce, ppl already knew how to split partys to fight against HT, besides the highest popularity of hp wash before and now even more cause pink bean. GMS players are ready to fight better than any version IMO, then you add our firepower (apples) and you got a big advantage.
so if ppl say we are strong cause apples, i agree but is not just that, is knowledge + firepower what make the real difference.
On the effects of ATT potions regarding bossing - Cavalier - 2009-05-18
JoeTang Wrote:We have the highest exp rate. I'm fairly sure no other version has had 4x exp stacking, let alone 8x.
I think he's referring to the base experience, and how jMS has a 1.25x multiplier (iirc).
On the effects of ATT potions regarding bossing - DrRusty - 2009-05-18
Killing a boss as quickly as possible has a huge effect on success or failure. Onyx apples give what? 50% extra boost to most classes? That's a huge boost in damage.
How long did it take other maples to take down HT? GMS did it on the 2nd day.... It probably could have been done the first day if 30 people didn't have to hunt a manon.
No GMS will not take down pink bean on the 1st try, but it definitely won't take long. I give GMS a week at the most to take it down.
On the effects of ATT potions regarding bossing - GummyBear - 2009-05-19
From what I understood, what MasPan said is that PB damage 1hko many classes. You're no good dead. Revive isnt helping (since you're going to die again). This makes it impossible. Once we find a way to survive PB, then and only then extra attacks going to help.
On the effects of ATT potions regarding bossing - MasPan - 2009-05-19
GummyBear Wrote:From what I understood, what MasPan said is that PB damage 1hko many classes. You're no good dead. Revive isnt helping (since you're going to die again). This makes it impossible. Once we find a way to survive PB, then and only then extra attacks going to help.
Thank you for understanding.
On the effects of ATT potions regarding bossing - Blaine - 2009-05-19
[COLOR="Red"]I've heard wind of only one single ranged character that could take one of the Genesis-like attacks (and a low end one, at that) inside the Throne Room, and that was some Marksman from Broa/Bera...one person in all of gMS (to my knowledge)...I think it's going to be who has the strongest warriors...excluding DrK's, because Zerking is out because of 23k touch. Hell, I'm 184 and will only have 3k hp after a touch. (25,934 max with HB), and I've washed a little. Also, Khaini is completely pineappleed, because aside from ExtremeBeast, we don't have any really great Heroes. Our DrK corps are thinning, with myself, Fikk, DrkSephy, piscesgal, Dojimon, and Rescan..../failspelling as the only DrK's that could survive. Shadowers, Warriors, and Mages are going to be our only attackers...and that doesn't look all that pretty.
AFTER we find a way to survive, then we can complain about apples and such. But that doesn't seem all that close.[/COLOR]
On the effects of ATT potions regarding bossing - Kabanaw - 2009-05-19
Also remember that PB himself is physical resistant. So even NLs with apples will only do regular damage. The only ones doing full damage are AMs and Paladins using Lightning Charge.
On the effects of ATT potions regarding bossing - KajitiSouls - 2009-05-19
Kabanaw Wrote:Also remember that PB himself is physical resistant. So even NLs with apples will only do regular damage. The only ones doing full damage are AMs and Paladins using Lightning Charge.
But in spite of Lightning Charge being used, all of a Paladin's attacks are weapon-based, so what happens then? o.O