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Papulatus--One of a Kind - Heidi - 2008-07-15
Pap is not the only weird one really
Pap has the high HP, but isn't still. I have always just grouped pap in the same group as Zakum, Pianus, and Horn Tail.
I disagree with the category that you put one of them in, and that is ergoth. GQ isn't a PQ, and it has no level range other than... 10? (I forget) to 200. You say that PQ bosses can easily be defeated by the level range that the PQ was intended for. That is not the case with ergoth. I would have classed him as a Stationary Boss, though he has rather low HP. I think he's a special case as well.
Crog's another slightly weird one. Kinda strong for an area boss, but what else would you class it as?
And as somebody else pointed out, Pianus is weird as well, and is sort of an area boss
I don't think categorys work
Papulatus--One of a Kind - Hero - 2008-07-15
Heidi Wrote:Pap is not the only weird one really
Pap has the high HP, but isn't still. I have always just grouped pap in the same group as Zakum, Pianus, and Horn Tail.
I disagree with the category that you put one of them in, and that is ergoth. GQ isn't a PQ, and it has no level range other than... 10? (I forget) to 200. You say that PQ bosses can easily be defeated by the level range that the PQ was intended for. That is not the case with ergoth. I would have classed him as a Stationary Boss, though he has rather low HP. I think he's a special case as well.
Crog's another slightly weird one. Kinda strong for an area boss, but what else would you class it as?
And as somebody else pointed out, Pianus is weird as well, and is sort of an area boss
I don't think categorys work
"Kinda strong for an area boss" ? How does them being stronger not make them area bosses?
As for GQ = PQ, it's practicly the same thing.
Papulatus--One of a Kind - JezzaRules - 2008-07-15
Papulatus is what I called one of the major bosses, the others being Zakum, Pianus, Horntail and now there's Pink Been who also earns the title.
These "Big Five" as I call it are the most hardest non-world tour bosses in the game with massive hp and decent damage.
Papulatus--One of a Kind - Heidi - 2008-07-15
Hero Wrote:"Kinda strong for an area boss" ? How does them being stronger not make them area bosses?
As for GQ = PQ, it's practicly the same thing.
Let me quote something in the first post
butterfli Wrote:Area Bosses
These bosses have relatively low hp and and very ideal for the whole 50 levels of third job people. They spawn randomly after a certain amount of time is passed after the previous one was killed.
Totally untrue for crogs. Bowman/ Thieves... do they ever have enough HP in 3rd job for them?
Warriors... they have accuracy problems with them until level 90 - 100
Mages... I really wonder about damage, maybe as they get to the higher levels.
Also something else I noticed, they don't really spawn like area bosses do
And as for GQ, you don't even need parties to complete it, and you havn't really addressed my main point about the level range.
Papulatus--One of a Kind - butterfλi - 2008-07-15
No one ever said each category were the categories established by Nexon.
butterfli Wrote:Maplestory bosses fall into four "unofficial" categories. Overtime, the players have found strategies to dealing with the various bosses of Maplestory and the strategies sometimes overlap eachother; which lead the players apply the same strategies for some bosses and thus, formed unofficial, unspoken categories for each boss.or that everything MUST fall into the categories. Make up your own if you want.
Papulatus--One of a Kind - Heidi - 2008-07-15
I was refferring to the categories given in the first post
Papulatus--One of a Kind - BrownTigga - 2008-07-16
i heard pink (been,bean,being) can not move even at 2nd form and that he is stuck on his throne.
Papulatus--One of a Kind - JHunz - 2008-07-16
I propose a more realistic set of categories:
Bosses of popular multi-person quests
King Slime
Alishar
Ergoth
Geist Balrog
Profitable bosses
Zakum
Papulatus
Horntail
Manon (only because it's a requirement for Horntail)
Pianus
Mushmom
Zombie Mushmom
Blue Mushmom (?)
Bosses that no one cares about except possibly for killing once for a lame quest
Everything else
Papulatus--One of a Kind - Taiketo - 2008-07-16
I have a better idea for a list.
Bosses that DON'T EXIST.
Pianus
Blue Mushmom
Jr. Balrog
Bosses that everyone forgets.
Rombot
Chief Grey
MT-09
Bosses that you can summon.
Papulatus
Zakum
Horntail
Bosses that you have a reasonable chance of actually seeing and killing sometime in your lifetime!
Manon
Griffey
Headless Horseman
Mushmom
Zombie Mushmom
Crimson Balrog
Snowman
Bosses that I forgot.
Anything else.
Papulatus--One of a Kind - Truemark - 2008-07-16
Heidi Wrote:Totally untrue for crogs. Bowman/ Thieves... do they ever have enough HP in 3rd job for them?
Using ranged skills can allow you to take them down. Archers use a combination of Puppet and/or Teleporters to take them down. I'm guessing theives could also use the teleporters for hit and run too. It's risky, but very doable.
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Papulatus--One of a Kind - solid_ice8 - 2008-07-16
mmm
never really noticed
but, seems to be true lol
mostly everyone likes to pap
Papulatus--One of a Kind - DrRusty - 2008-07-16
Heidi Wrote:Let me quote something in the first post
Totally untrue for crogs. Bowman/ Thieves... do they ever have enough HP in 3rd job for them?
Warriors... they have accuracy problems with them until level 90 - 100
Mages... I really wonder about damage, maybe as they get to the higher levels.
Also something else I noticed, they don't really spawn like area bosses do
And as for GQ, you don't even need parties to complete it, and you havn't really addressed my main point about the level range.
I think you're forgetting about bandits. A lvl 70 bandit with lvl 1 mesos boom can take down Ergoth with ease; thats why alot of people who do gpq ask for a bomber. Also, in your case about c rogs, I solo'd my first c rog at lvl 75 on my bandit.
Every class has a weakness, and hp happens to be a weakness for ranged classes. Warrior are limited their accuracy, always have been. That doesnt mean that these bosses can't be defeated by them, and can't be categorized the way butterfli is suggesting, It jus means that these classes have weakness that happen to be these bosses strengths. Crog has alot of avoid will make it hard for warriors to kill, and he also does alot of damage, which will make it hard for ranged classes to kill.
Also, whyd you say c rog is to strong to be an area boss? He only has 100k hp. Doesnt the yeti boss in el nath have like 93k hp?
Papulatus--One of a Kind - Kigaz - 2008-07-16
butterfli Wrote:Papulatus' magic attacks do not have "limited range". There is a limit but it's quite far... at least it has further range than keen eyes. If you push pap to one side of the room, and side on the other side, you will get zap by it's thunder. The fire and ice attacks may have a range, but the thunder can reach the other side of the room.
The 2nd form does deal high damage, but in comparison to the ranged bosses' physical attacks, it's really no big deal. 2nd form of pap does 5k. Tengu does 8k and Anego does 11k.
Pap's dispel has a certain range.
I can use TT and not get dispelled once you're past the rope a bit (assuming you have it KBed and pinned)
Papulatus--One of a Kind - IsaacGS - 2008-07-16
Taiketo Wrote:I have a better idea for a list.Chief Gray is not a boss
Bosses that DON'T EXIST.
Pianus
Blue Mushmom
Jr. Balrog
Bosses that everyone forgets.
Rombot
Chief Grey
MT-09
Bosses that you can summon.
Papulatus
Zakum
Horntail
Bosses that you have a reasonable chance of actually seeing and killing sometime in your lifetime!
Manon
Griffey
Headless Horseman
Mushmom
Zombie Mushmom
Crimson Balrog
Snowman
Bosses that I forgot.
Anything else.
I hunt Rombot/MT-09 all the time though, can't wait for Monster Book to come out so that I might actually get something useful from it.
Papulatus--One of a Kind - Germ - 2008-07-16
IsaacGS Wrote:Chief Gray is not a boss
I hunt Rombot/MT-09 all the time though, can't wait for Monster Book to come out so that I might actually get something useful from it.
Monster book? What's that?
Papulatus--One of a Kind - Stereo - 2008-07-16
I've had more trouble finding HH than the Jr. Balrog, maybe I just didn't try looking for it enough. It's too close to town..
Papulatus--One of a Kind - Retalion - 2008-07-16
Stereo Wrote:I've had more trouble finding HH than the Jr. Balrog, maybe I just didn't try looking for it enough. It's too close to town..
Actually, that's why I occasionally hunt HH but not JRog: Archers take a hell of a long time to get to JRog >_> I can probably go through all the HH channels in the time I get to 3 JRog ones. *Remembers that one new years eve where I sat at JRog for 6 hours waiting for one to spawn just so I can get footage for my 120 video back in the day*
HH has a 12ish hour spawn and JRog has a 6 hour one so if anything, those two should be switched I guess?
Papulatus--One of a Kind - EndlessAxis - 2008-07-17
hmm Yeah prolly pap , well that or ( from clips ) leviathan
Papulatus--One of a Kind - Zim - 2008-07-17
[COLOR="Magenta"][SIZE="2"]The only boss that's seriously Ranged-unfriendly (even with HB) I could think of is definitely the Frog Boss from the Showa Expansion.
The AoE (throwing balls or something?) of 12K+ will make Bowmens/NLs squashed like a flat pancake. I've never seen any ranged that actually fight the Frog Boss itself - most of them are Bishops/Mages and Warriors.
One day if I really do have the free time and money, I would probably remake another NL for fun to have it close to 15K HP to actually be the range to do so. But that'll probably will cost a shitloads of NX and mesos (INT equips) though...[/SIZE][/COLOR]
Papulatus--One of a Kind - 'Lexy - 2008-07-17
Heidi Wrote:Let me quote something in the first post
Totally untrue for crogs. Bowman/ Thieves... do they ever have enough HP in 3rd job for them?
Warriors... they have accuracy problems with them until level 90 - 100
Mages... I really wonder about damage, maybe as they get to the higher levels.
Also something else I noticed, they don't really spawn like area bosses do
And as for GQ, you don't even need parties to complete it, and you havn't really addressed my main point about the level range.
I soloed my first crog at level 72. o_o