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Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Dark Link - 2013-03-01
Chilly Wrote:The Tornado and Seduce Queen's Scratch always locked me, every hit regardless before the patch (0% Status Resistance Evan). Perhaps the MISS mechanic change caused this, since I suspect as a DB you weren't getting locked because you weren't getting hit i.e. MISSed.
You can still attack during Tornado, damage just doesn't show, the HP bar still goes down.
Talking about his Demon Slayer. You could resist the "Seal" on Queen and Pierre if you had high resistance, but I haven't been to RA on my Kaiser since this patch, so I cannot comment on it.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - VerrKol - 2013-03-01
Chilly Wrote:Skill Books drop more frequently, I had 3-5 per boss yesterday. Did anyone else's Vellum not use his Poison Plasma attack? I waited a minute or two for it below 25% then 10% HP, it never came.
I wanted to add this in some time ago but kept forgetting, does anyone not a mage experience OHKO's from Pierre when using his Umbrella Thrust when using a movement skill into or out of its range? I survive perfectly fine if he pushes me back, but if I teleport into the skill or get caught as I'm teleporting (too slow) out of the range it turns into a OHKO.
Slightly unrelated, does anyone think the reason our Fafnir weapons and equips don't have the additional options (%Boss/PDR) is that we don't have Additional Options/Revamped Equip UI or did they actually remove them? Because these changes to boss drops and boss: drops feels copypasta, like MISS=>GUARD. Are the boss drops like this in KMS?
Vellum does still use poison. He used it in my run today.
I did not notice an increase in skill books... only got 1 between the 4 bosses.
Umbrella thrust does not OHKO my BM using DJ.
I believe Fiel mentioned there being tags for additional potential, but who knows how it would apply without the other requisite changes? I'd be very surprised if it worked properly.
I did not experience any of the hit box problems others described.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - G-Meister - 2013-03-01
Marksman Bryan Wrote:[video=youtube;e0V7wNFc_0c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0V7wNFc_0c[/video]
solo all the bosses
Found it funny when Limgoon went "Oooh ooooooh oooooh yayayaya oooooh" whenever dodging/running away when her super breath attacks. Hahaha!
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Rexaar - 2013-03-01
There is a glitch where if a boss hit you with HP% based attack at the same time the boss dies/respawn, the normally non-fatal attack become fatal and kills you instantly. This will not work with regular damage that doesn't ignore invincibility.
This will often occur with normal mode Pierre because Pierre can respawn into another color at the same time using his umbrella rush move.
Since every attack in chaos mode is HP% based, this glitch can occur during bloody queen when she is changing faces while clawing your eyes out and at Pierre of course. (both untested, but possible)
An example outside root abyss would be victor and velderoth. Touching the green orb after victor die, or getting slash by velderoth when he dies.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - OhBaby - 2013-03-01
That happens to me almost every time i kill von bon, i die same time i kill him lul
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Razmos - 2013-03-01
When Von Bon fires his orb attack now it hits you on the opposite direction to where he fires, and it's invisible. Since I've been hit from both directions, I think both the visible one and the invisible one can hit you. Wiped me out when I tried doing Von Bon.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - PirateIzzy - 2013-03-01
Razmos Wrote:When Von Bon fires his orb attack now it hits you on the opposite direction to where he fires, and it's invisible.
I noticed that with Drakes as well. It's a glitch.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Dark Link - 2013-03-02
Muppy Wrote:Anyone having problems with the bosses' attack's hitboxes? I mean, I was on the other side of the screen and Vellum still hit me with that bigass yellow circle attack.
I just had that happen to me today. I was well away from the "Jump Attack" and it still hit me from nowhere.
Hitboxes are really freaking screwed up right now.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - MCPV - 2013-03-02
It seems the hats dropped by the normal bosses do not carry potential anymore. I knew epic potentials upon reveal were too good to be true.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - HellenzSin - 2013-03-02
When Pierre uses the hat change trick, I can't see the hat and thus its color on my Kanna, but it somehow fixes itself eventually and then breaks itself again.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Chilly - 2013-03-02
Razmos Wrote:When Von Bon fires his orb attack now it hits you on the opposite direction to where he fires, and it's invisible. Since I've been hit from both directions, I think both the visible one and the invisible one can hit you. Wiped me out when I tried doing Von Bon.
Similar to this, but actually visible: Von Bon can now change the direction of the comet attack after initiating it, the same goes for Red Pierre's Assassinate move. Before the patch, if you simply moved behind either of these attacks as they were initiating (wand waving and teleport out, respectively) the attack would occur in the direction they faced before, during initiation. Now, Von Bon will fire at you even if he is facing the other direction and Pierre can switch direction while in his shadow world.
And yes, Vellum's Uppercut/Free Willy is doing odd things right now, like not showing up/hitting you from across the room.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - ultimax21 - 2013-03-02
Chilly Wrote:And yes, Vellum's Uppercut/Free Willy is doing odd things right now, like not showing up/hitting you from across the room.
That just seems like lag to me, as when you solo you do not come across any issues normally at all. I can solo the whole thing without a scratch still, and I do not notice any hit box issues.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Dark Link - 2013-03-02
ultimax21 Wrote:That just seems like lag to me, as when you solo you do not come across any issues normally at all. I can solo the whole thing without a scratch still, and I do not notice any hit box issues.
That must be some godawful lag if he's still hitting you from halfway across the room..
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - HellenzSin - 2013-03-02
ultimax21 Wrote:That just seems like lag to me, as when you solo you do not come across any issues normally at all. I can solo the whole thing without a scratch still, and I do not notice any hit box issues.
It's not. This is happening with all bosses. Easier to see with Von Bon, but it also happens with the rest. Queen can also change the direction of her breath attack.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - MuscleWizard - 2013-03-02
HellenzSin Wrote:It's not. This is happening with all bosses. Easier to see with Von Bon, but it also happens with the rest. Queen can also change the direction of her breath attack.
i swear to god if they're
okay
heres how i see that as a problem
>client side
>character location
>move character
>character location updates serverside
>serverside sends character location to other clients
there has to be some kind of delay between you moving, and the server recognizing that you moved
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - ultimax21 - 2013-03-02
Dark Link Wrote:That must be some godawful lag if he's still hitting you from halfway across the room..
What happens is ring becomes invisible temporarily, nothing about hitting you halfway across the room for me. As I can see it doing the "freewilly" attack I know how far that range goes. I sat a mule on the other half of the map and didn't die meanwhile I watch an invisible ring notification leading to the gigantic attack on myself. Following the body of the stupid boss for vellum is how it looks for me, but the rings doesn't follow the body 100% of the time or even show at all. Anyways, for the majority of the time, it seems normal but it does seeme to be messed up since the patch. So I'll take back what I said on lag, the problem of them switching directions I notice on Von Von. Queen I've noticed her switching sometimes too on breath attacks like HellenzSin stated, all other attacks from her looked normal, maybe save for that funky black hole mouth.
tl:dr, I recognize the issues you guys are talking about now for funky animations, I gotten bored of farming them recently.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Justin - 2013-03-02
What's pissing me off the most is pierre. He'll super KB with his umbrella and it will inexplicably instantly kill me. Even at full HP.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Aggravate - 2013-03-02
Man, this patch made Root Abyss bosses more annoying.
Screwy hit boxes when you're with a party (e.g. Von Bon's projectile changing directions, Crimson Queen's purple breath changing directions, and Vellum's full body assault changing directions).
The damage you deal when Pierre is wearing a blue hat in his fire tornado form is now hidden as well.
There's no more Hidden Potential Epic-on-reveal Hats, and the bosses drop boat loads of Crusader Coins now. They also drop 10% Scrolls now (I got a 10% Helmet INT), and 60% tradeable Chaos Scrolls.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - PirateIzzy - 2013-03-03
Aggravate Wrote:Man, this patch made Root Abyss bosses more annoying.
Screwy hit boxes when you're with a party (e.g. Von Bon's projectile changing directions, Crimson Queen's purple breath changing directions, and Vellum's full body assault changing directions).
The damage you deal when Pierre is wearing a blue hat in his fire tornado form is now hidden as well.
There's no more Hidden Potential Epic-on-reveal Hats, and the bosses drop boat loads of Crusader Coins now. They also drop 10% Scrolls now (I got a 10% Helmet INT), and 60% tradeable Chaos Scrolls.
It's not just Root Abyss monsters. It's all monsters. I noticed it with Drakes, Hilla, and many other monsters.
Same with Red Pierre.
The hat change is just stupid. Oh, Nexon.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - HellenzSin - 2013-03-03
^ Ya. I saw weird things happening at Magnus.