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Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - ultimax21 - 2013-02-01
ChronosXIII Wrote:Was that an Inkwell Helmet...?
I thought Pierre's Red Hat assassination attack OHKO's, yet Limgoon lived through it.
Took them 10 minutes and they have Unlimited and the increased HP versions.
Limgoon wasted a lot of time just videoing them and keeping himself alive when he could've fired at the bosses so many times.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Dark Link - 2013-02-01
iAmFear Wrote:Oh right, forgot they increased HP again.
wait, AGAIN?! 84bil Chaos Pierre wasn't enough?!
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Grey - 2013-02-01
Dark Link Wrote:wait, AGAIN?! 84bil Chaos Pierre wasn't enough?!
Oh, there are actually HP changes, minor ones, but still, here are the Live server values:
Pierre: 84b -> 80b
Von Bon: 105b -> 100b
Bloody Queen: 147b -> 140b
Vellum is not changed and remains at 200b
Oh, and here's a table with their DEF values:
| Boss | gMS | kMS |
|---|---|---|
| Pierre | 70% | 80% |
| Von Bon | 70% | 100% |
| Bloody Queen | 70% | 120% |
| Vellum | 70% | 300% |
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Dark Link - 2013-02-02
300% PDR?! The hell is that?!
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Grey - 2013-02-02
Dark Link Wrote:300% PDR?! The hell is that?!
Yeah, crazy huh?
In the olden days (...okay, now, really) we would've scoffed at that. "300% DEF? Why should we be worried, I have 100% Ignore", but no, not anymore, when every little bit of Ignore DEF you can get counts and it's really, extremely unlikely that you'll ever really have enough, unless you miraculously get 100% Ignore DEF on one equip.
Or, it could've been a mistake, I mean, wow, 300% is quite the jump, right? I'd rather wait until we get Unlimited I'm doing 1s on Chaos Vellum because I have less than 66% total Ignore DEF to actually accept it as true, as deluded as that may be.
It's both comforting and frustrating that the best weapons in the game are guarded by such a heavily armored foe.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - ShinkuDragon - 2013-02-02
iAmFear Wrote:Yeah, crazy huh?
In the olden days (...okay, now, really) we would've scoffed at that. "300% DEF? Why should we be worried, I have 100% Ignore", but no, not anymore, when every little bit of Ignore DEF you can get counts and it's really, extremely unlikely that you'll ever really have enough, unless you miraculously get 100% Ignore DEF on one equip.
Or, it could've been a mistake, I mean, wow, 300% is quite the jump, right? I'd rather wait until we get Unlimited I'm doing 1s on Chaos Vellum because I have less than 66% total Ignore DEF to actually accept it as true, as deluded as that may be.
It's both comforting and frustrating that the best weapons in the game are guarded by such a heavily armored foe.
allright guys, move aside, it's DrK's time to shine!
now give me 10 more hits per sacrifice and we might just be able to do it.
if i capped 50M with every hit of sacrifice, it would take 1000 attacks to bring him down.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Marksman Bryan - 2013-02-02
not sure if anyone was wondering, but chairs do drop - I saw someone with a vellum chair yesterday and a Von Bon chair dropped on one of my runs today. someone else looted it though
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Worthyness - 2013-02-02
iAmFear Wrote:Yeah, crazy huh?
In the olden days (...okay, now, really) we would've scoffed at that. "300% DEF? Why should we be worried, I have 100% Ignore", but no, not anymore, when every little bit of Ignore DEF you can get counts and it's really, extremely unlikely that you'll ever really have enough, unless you miraculously get 100% Ignore DEF on one equip.
Or, it could've been a mistake, I mean, wow, 300% is quite the jump, right? I'd rather wait until we get Unlimited I'm doing 1s on Chaos Vellum because I have less than 66% total Ignore DEF to actually accept it as true, as deluded as that may be.
It's both comforting and frustrating that the best weapons in the game are guarded by such a heavily armored foe.
Buccaneers have this! About maybe 40% of the time!
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Takebacker - 2013-02-02
Worthyness Wrote:Buccaneers have this! About maybe 40% of the time!
Which boils down to 180% before other pdr sources. Quite a hearty chunk of gained damage.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Grey - 2013-02-02
Worthyness Wrote:Buccaneers have this! About maybe 40% of the time!
So do Mercs. (Which, on an off topic point, confuses me that they didn't just have one set of mastery books for Defense Break and Typhoon Crush, or even Achilles and Obsidian Skin and High Defense, and all the other skills that are completely identical save for the name).
I completely forgot about Sac totally ignoring DEF, though, which I'm pretty sure wins this battle hands down.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Chilly - 2013-02-02
I've never had two helmet drop at once before today, but I guess these bosses are Zakumish in their stingying to lop off their own head and present it twice to you. Still no chair though.
6% HP on one of then though, yay, Demon Avenger.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Aggravate - 2013-02-02
Marksman Bryan Wrote:not sure if anyone was wondering, but chairs do drop - I saw someone with a vellum chair yesterday and a Von Bon chair dropped on one of my runs today. someone else looted it though
I have a Von Bon chair. I've seen only 2-3 others with it as well in Broa. Also saw Crimson Queen and Vellum chair both just once, but haven't seen a Pierre chair at all.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - PirateIzzy - 2013-02-02
iAmFear Wrote:(Which, on an off topic point, confuses me that they didn't just have one set of mastery books for Defense Break and Typhoon Crush, or even Achilles and Obsidian Skin and High Defense, and all the other skills that are completely identical save for the name).
Similar to how Advanced Final Attack comes in 4 separate books? Nexon loves wasting space in this game.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Hanabira.Kage - 2013-02-03
Dark Link Wrote:300% PDR?! The hell is that?!
Wouldn't that mean your attacks heal it for twice the amount of damage they would do? ._.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - DustinxD - 2013-02-03
Hanabira.Kage Wrote:Nah, you'll just hit a bunch of 1s if you don't have much PDR ignore.Wouldn't that mean your attacks heal it for twice the amount of damage they would do? ._.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Hanabira.Kage - 2013-02-03
DustinxD Wrote:Nah, you'll just hit a bunch of 1s if you don't have much PDR ignore.
Figures. :/
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Arcana27961 - 2013-02-03
iAmFear Wrote:Oh, and here's a table with their DEF values:
Boss gMS kMS Pierre 70% 80% Von Bon 70% 100% Bloody Queen 70% 120% Vellum 70% 300%
Well, at least I could do some damage against Vellum thanks to my DoT.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - HellenzSin - 2013-02-03
Aggravate Wrote:I have a Von Bon chair. I've seen only 2-3 others with it as well in Broa. Also saw Crimson Queen and Vellum chair both just once, but haven't seen a Pierre chair at all.
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Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - valhala556 - 2013-02-03
Im reading these and im starting to hate being a mage. About half of the attacks OHKO me that seem to be "Set damage" that just ignores Magic guard. Vellums pop up Kills me -_-.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - G-Meister - 2013-02-03
Arcana27961 Wrote:Well, at least I could do some damage against Vellum thanks to my DoT.
Thought that and AirFrames are mainly used as tracking devices? :f6: