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ANOTHER meso exploit? - Takebacker - 2010-11-11
byakugan Wrote:By this logic, you could also name APQ's disconnecting issue a new feature.
It as been out longer than the "Alread logged in" problem and hasn't been fixed after many SC.
Or you could use your head and not compare something beneficial to something hazardous.
Already logged in was around for a long ass time. Definetly not as long as double log has been around.
ANOTHER meso exploit? - Policia - 2010-11-11
Doesn't matter. Leaving the double login feature here will only create more exploits for people to find. You don't think the only one is this meso exploit do you? Cus I certainly don't.
ANOTHER meso exploit? - Zelkova - 2010-11-11
Locked Wrote:Fix for this is so simple, just disable the double-log-in "feature"
Its simple, kill the
ANOTHER meso exploit? - SwordStaker - 2010-11-11
ZOMG LOOK OUT GUAIZ PPL AR EGETTING BANNED CUZ THEY HAZ WGS
ANOTHER meso exploit? - Imagine - 2010-11-11
SwordStaker Wrote:ZOMG LOOK OUT GUAIZ PPL AR EGETTING BANNED CUZ THEY HAZ WGS
*looks at 8 atk WG in invetory
*looks at the fact that I'm not banned
ANOTHER meso exploit? - Seanny - 2010-11-11
Thinking back to the Announcement by Hime to not spread FUD on their forums...
Its not really spreading FUD if there's no Uncertainty and Doubt about it is there?
ANOTHER meso exploit? - byakugan - 2010-11-11
Takebacker Wrote:Or you could use your head and not compare something beneficial to something hazardous.
Already logged in was around for a long ass time. Definetly not as long as double log has been around.
What about you use yours and realize that this so called "feature" is too dangerous to be allowed. Benefical cuz you can leech your mules on the same account using your main char? please...
You dont need too much reasoning to realize that. After just a couple of days since it was released, people were already duping mesos.
ANOTHER meso exploit? - SwordStaker - 2010-11-11
Imagine Wrote:*looks at 8 atk WG in invetoryIts a joke lol
*looks at the fact that I'm not banned
ANOTHER meso exploit? - MariettaRC - 2010-11-11
byakugan Wrote:What about you use yours and realize that this so called "feature" is too dangerous to be allowed. Benefical cuz you can leech your mules on the same account using your main char? please...
You dont need too much reasoning to realize that. After just a couple of days since it was released, people were already duping mesos.
I think he meant comparing APQ to the double-login.
ANOTHER meso exploit? - Avenge - 2010-11-11
byakugan Wrote:There is something i needa ask. I keep hearing from friends that the ability to login the same account more than once was released as a new feature in the last patch nexon gave us. He even said it's on the patch notes. May someone confirm this for me please?
If this is true, i cannot see this exploit being fixed any time soon. They may patch it so the actual hack doesn't work anymore, but hackers only have to tweak it out a little bit to make it work again, and again, and again.
there was a glitch after the patch that was giving the "already logged in" message to some people, so they removed it as a "fix", and never put it back.
ANOTHER meso exploit? - SaptaZapta - 2010-11-11
byakugan Wrote:There is something i needa ask. I keep hearing from friends that the ability to login the same account more than once was released as a new feature in the last patch nexon gave us. He even said it's on the patch notes. May someone confirm this for me please?
If this is true, i cannot see this exploit being fixed any time soon. They may patch it so the actual hack doesn't work anymore, but hackers only have to tweak it out a little bit to make it work again, and again, and again.
I believe what your friends are referring to is this:
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=33273
Also see this:
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=33283&page=1 and note the ticket response (on the last page). If it had been an intentional feature, the response should have been "it's a new feature, enjoy!"
ANOTHER meso exploit? - KaidaTan - 2010-11-11
I think they should turn all the boss and monster areas into towns, remove the stats from items, and make the game into Social Happy Maple Fun Zone.
More on-topic: I think being able to log on to more than one of your characters could have worked fine. It would have been fairly helpful for me, but I can see ways it could be used that go against the spirit of the game. That said, it wouldn't have been hard to implement it without being so exploitable. It's just that no one at Nexon America knows how the code inside the game really works and flipped a switch they shouldn't have.
ANOTHER meso exploit? - SwordStaker - 2010-11-11
Guys are people really getting banned? Just for no reason? Or is this a common myth.
ANOTHER meso exploit? - Takebacker - 2010-11-11
byakugan Wrote:What about you use yours and realize that this so called "feature" is too dangerous to be allowed. Benefical cuz you can leech your mules on the same account using your main char? please...
You dont need too much reasoning to realize that. After just a couple of days since it was released, people were already duping mesos.
Reasons multi-log is beneficial:
1) http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=34074
2) Encourages the use of only one account, rather than making more than one which is against the ToS and has always been frowned upon by nexon. They still understand everyone does it, but they don't like it. It skews the results of a poll on their site for example.
3) Branching off of #1: Allows for more competitive gameplay post-BB. People after training and funding so many characters (and after BB you'll have a lot of higher leveled characters) can participate in solo runs seen in #1. You could have like 3 or 4 characters downing a boss all controlled by 1 person, which actually takes skill to do.
4) Gets rid of "you're already logged in" error.
5) Branching off #3: Increases revenue. Multi log in ability inspires people with one high level main to raise another to complement the others skills. This is a better option than the previous "make another character on a new account" because NX is more easily spent/attained, and a separate computer is not needed. This = NX spent = Nexon wins again.
By the way, leech is f'ucking dead.
Reasons single log is beneficial:
No meso exploit. This point is kind of moot to argue because if you'll notice, THERE HAVE BEEN MESO/DUPE EXPLOITS BEFORE THAT WERE NOT RELATED TO THIS. Once Nexon fixes all the ways this can be exploited it won't be a problem anymore. Just like dice. Just like no delay. Just like BPhack. Just like vaccing. Just like godmode. What harm has been done by meso duping? Rolled back to monday? Boo hoo. It's not like it hasn't happened before. Why people are even affected now compared to in the past is puzzling to me because there's little reason to play with BB around the corner. This was averted fairly well on Nexon's part this time, so exploits aren't really viable counter points for why multi-log should be around.
ANOTHER meso exploit? - Eos - 2010-11-11
Takebacker Wrote:2) Encourages the use of only one account, rather than making more than one which is against the ToS and has always been frowned upon by nexon. They still understand everyone does it, but they don't like it. It skews the results of a poll on their site for example.
There is no rule against it in the TOS.
There hasn't been in over three years.
Nexon doesn't give a flying monkey how many accounts you have as long as you're playing and therefore boosting their numbers and potentially capable of providing them revenue.
ANOTHER meso exploit? - FanaticRat - 2010-11-11
Well, to play devil's advocate here, I could see some reasons why they'd want to keep single log, mostly to encourage the social aspect of the game. If people multi-log they can pretty much do anything themselves, and single log would encourage people to form connections to take down bosses, do party quest (which actually can lead to meeting friends in game, I've added a couple of people to my BL after PQs who were worth the slot). Not to mention it would encourage the use of the family system for it's original purpose--find a friend or someone new and help teach them how to play the game, and in return gain points in order to perform certain actions--rather than just chaining yourself into a family (although admittedly this entire point is moot).
So yeah, I wouldn't say it outweighs the benefits of multi-log, but it is something to consider I would think.
ANOTHER meso exploit? - Takebacker - 2010-11-11
I don't agree with multi log discouraging social aspects of the game. People would even say that discouraging interaction is a good thing. Those are the same people who welcome more mini dungeons. There are ALWAYS people who detach themselves from the community. LHC is supposed to encourage party training, but there has been proof of people who simply get 5 mules and kill away. Some don't even like the party aspect of LHC. (aslemn) As far as the family system...i don't think finding someone and teaching them how to play was the original purpose. The only purpose that the community sees for family is in game methods of increasing exp and drop rates/teleports.
ANOTHER meso exploit? - MetaSeraphim - 2010-11-11
Are any other worlds in chaos at the moment? It might just be hackers crashing the FM or something, but I did noticed that almost every glove att scroll and most work gloves bought out. Might just be left overs since this hack was out before they rolled back to, or something else.
ANOTHER meso exploit? - Sn1perJohnE - 2010-11-12
MetaSeraphim Wrote:Are any other worlds in chaos at the moment? It might just be hackers crashing the FM or something, but I did noticed that almost every glove att scroll and most work gloves bought out. Might just be left overs since this hack was out before they rolled back to, or something else.
I dont even think im going to get a shop open tonight to try and even sell anything, i keep getting dc hacked or just plain Dced.
I keep getting an Error Code 5: Access Denied message.
ANOTHER meso exploit? - Chameleonic - 2010-11-12
Sn1perJohnE Wrote:I dont even think im going to get a shop open tonight to try and even sell anything, i keep getting dc hacked or just plain Dced.
I keep getting an Error Code 5: Access Denied message.
Ahhh you too, I keep getting ths same error. Someone is dcing the FM in Bera, its empty.