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Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - ChiefHermit - 2009-01-23
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video.ptv?ch_userid=cige16&prgid=34201999&categid=2955770&page=4This
u can see the new assaulter range and bs delay
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - SuperMario64 - 2009-01-23
Assaulter's range is so big now! <3
and lol @ http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video.ptv?ch_userid=cige16&prgid=34201571&categid=2955770
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Skylit - 2009-01-23
ty soup. Longer range assulter is impressive, tho it reminds me of the old school days when we used to get hit assaulting ludi monsters and squids ._. finally they adjust it.... LOL
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Shippo the Fox - 2009-01-23
I'm scared. Hopefully the Shadower class will still remain scarce.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Greg22 - 2009-01-23
Damn..
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Styles - 2009-01-23
`Those badass shadowers to DO rock
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Deviant - 2009-01-23
Wow.... This really is a big change, im not sure if I look forward to it or dread it.
inb4 9999999 shadowers.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Shidoshi - 2009-01-23
oh wow, now that's some movement ability =D, and 1 BS 1 SB too.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - DrRusty - 2009-01-23
I still think shadowers need a damage boost. Bring down smoke to a 10 Sp skill and make a 20 sp skill something like this.
At lvl 1 make it so it adds 5% to every attack and 2 avoid. And every sp added adds the same stats.
Increase assassinate to 700% and bstep to 600%.
So at max it would be +40 avoid and 100% damage.
Sb would turn into 180% damage per hit. 700% bsteps and 800% per hit assassinates. Thatd be hot.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Rick - 2009-01-23
Geez that's some sexual range on assaulter =D My days of assaultering in to the middle of a monster may be over.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Shippo the Fox - 2009-01-23
Uh no thanks.
If they did make a 20 SP passive skill, I would like it to merely make Savage Blow up to 100%.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - DrRusty - 2009-01-23
Shippo the Fox Wrote:Uh no thanks.
If they did make a 20 SP passive skill, I would like it to merely make Savage Blow up to 100%.
100% sb would jus leave shadowers in the same position as before. I jus wanna be equal to atleast dks. I don't think that's askin to much.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Skylit - 2009-01-23
this sure is gonna make pplz lazy to use taunt now ... owell lols
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Takebacker - 2009-01-23
Shippo the Fox Wrote:Uh no thanks.
If they did make a 20 SP passive skill, I would like it to merely make Savage Blow up to 100%.
People aren't going to jump on using 20 points on that if the effect is so small. The increase should make SB hit at least 600/650%.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - DrRusty - 2009-01-23
well maybe like 2% added per SP. That'd be 120% SB and that sounds pretty good.
Oh and about the video..... holy shiet at assaulter's range :f6:.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - iFrancisco - 2009-01-23
DrRusty Wrote:I still think shadowers need a damage boost. Bring down smoke to a 10 Sp skill and make a 20 sp skill something like this.
At lvl 1 make it so it adds 5% to every attack and 2 avoid. And every sp added adds the same stats.
Increase assassinate to 700% and bstep to 600%.
So at max it would be +40 avoid and 100% damage.
Sb would turn into 180% damage per hit. 700% bsteps and 800% per hit assassinates. Thatd be hot.
Yes I like the idea of some kind of passive atk boost skill. I think boosting SB is rather pointless, why use 4th job skill points to boost a 2nd job skill (and 180% would be too high IMO, I would be hitting 10k SBs pretty consistently on newties). Either that or decrease the animation speed on assassinate by 400-500ms and watch our DPS increase by a good 15-20%.
I just don't think the delay on BS is enough, but I still need to see exactly how much the delay has been lowered (anything over 1.5 seconds keeps our DPS the same due to the assassinate > BS combo...). Regardless, it sure as hell makes guardians even more godly exp, and I thought 20mil per hour SOLOING was good before o.o
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Devil - 2009-01-23
iFrancisco Wrote:Yes I like the idea of some kind of passive atk boost skill. I think boosting SB is rather pointless, why use 4th job skill points to boost a 2nd job skill (and 180% would be too high IMO, I would be hitting 10k SBs pretty consistently on newties). Either that or decrease the animation speed on assassinate by 400-500ms and watch our DPS increase by a good 15-20%.Just like all other classes do? Why would that be wrong? And I'm sure you're not hitting 6x 10 with 180%, since you would need a damage range of 5.600~10.000 for that... And without apples thats not possible...
Quote:I just don't think the delay on BS is enough, but I still need to see exactly how much the delay has been lowered (anything over 1.5 seconds keeps our DPS the same due to the assassinate > BS combo...). Regardless, it sure as hell makes guardians even more godly exp, and I thought 20mil per hour SOLOING was good before o.oSomeone said they -did- lower it to Bstep > [SBlow/Assaulter/BoT] > Bstep speed, and if that's true, that would be enough for me, especially with the increased Assaulter range.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Dusk - 2009-01-23
Shadowers need to be balanced with Buccaneers, that's all I'm asking.
I like the SB+BS.
Devil, if SB did 180%x6 Shadowers would be spamming SB to fight bosses in 4th job.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - DrRusty - 2009-01-23
Devil's right. Look at a DK the same level, hitting 90k crushers while zerked. Hitting 60k SBs would only make us even. Maybe like 150% or something, but it would still have to be pretty high.
Should I even mention heros doing almost 40k per hit with brandish and a 1H sword -_-
Dusk Wrote:Shadowers need to be balanced with Buccaneers, that's all I'm asking.
I like the SB+BS.
Devil, if SB did 180%x6 Shadowers would be spamming SB to fight bosses in 4th job.
what class doesn't sit and spam 1 skill during a boss fight.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Loose - 2009-01-23
That's one long ass Assaulter.