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Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Pomegranate - 2010-01-04

I would like some input on some college courses i can take. I was looking at computer programming analyst, and it seems to be something I would like to do. But if anyone else experienced in this could share some input that would be lovely.


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - god - 2010-01-04

job in computer programming? college courses? major in computer science, take calculus in hs, pass the ap test, sign up with google, good to go


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Kawasari Mimoto22 - 2010-01-04

I've never done programming. Most I got into anything programming was programming a router..

Personally, I am majoring in Computer Networking, or as Computer Information Systems. I tried the network aspect of computers, and I liked it.. up until a certain point. It's all IP, common-sense, logical structure of a network, etc. You'll learn a lot from it, such as the differences between certain types of switches and routers, differences between LAN and a WAN. Or.. how does a switch and a router segregate traffic, etc. In my final semester, I had to build a network capable of holding a certain amount of users. I had to do this all on paper and with an emulation software, very fun. Only boring part was looking up prices for equipments that you plan on having.

I've also done Help Desk classes, this is kinda easy. I also tried the Systems-aspect of computers, which I tend to enjoy a bit more than the Network-aspect because to me, I can take it in more. I've never done any programming, and don't intend to, unless my major requires me to take those courses! Which, I might have to, but we'll see. I'm done with my 2nd year at the moment, and will be transferring shortly to a University. I plan on getting at least a Bachelor's Degree, and if I enjoy what I'm doing, I'll pursue a Master's. Right now, I really enjoy anything involving security, so I might try going for Systems or Network Security.


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Pomegranate - 2010-01-04

im in canada. Most college courses for computers only require college lvl math.
And thanks for the reply aswell khoi Smile

Yeah, see my cousin is taking computer programming analyst right now, he's in his 1st year of it. So im getting info from him aswell. And it seems like something id like. If anyone also knows a website that would teach me like basic java or something that would be helpful aswell.


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Heidi - 2010-01-04

Pomegranate Wrote:im in canada. Most college courses for computers only require college lvl math.
And thanks for the reply aswell khoi Smile

Yeah, see my cousin is taking computer programming analyst right now, he's in his 1st year of it. So im getting info from him aswell. And it seems like something id like. If anyone also knows a website that would teach me like basic java or something that would be helpful aswell.

I'd suggest trying to get ahold of a good book on learning to program in Java. Just go to the library and have a look through what they have.

And yeah, I only needed highschool math. Didn't even need to do any computer stuff in highschool.


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Pomegranate - 2010-01-04

Heidi Wrote:I'd suggest trying to get ahold of a good book on learning to program in Java. Just go to the library and have a look through what they have.

And yeah, I only needed highschool math. Didn't even need to do any computer stuff in highschool.

Ill do that after school tmr, thanks Smile
Although im probs gunna try and switch my next semester metal shops to computer prog. classes.


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - KajitiSouls - 2010-01-04

http://projecteuler.net/

Do it at your own leisure. It gets harder the further you go along, and there's no hard instruction on how to do the problems.

(there's also one or two problems in there that's actually faster to solve without a computer, but that's cheating Wink)


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Russt - 2010-01-04

KajitiSouls Wrote:(there's also one or two problems in there that's actually faster to solve without a computer, but that's cheating Wink)

Is not. Math is cool too!


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Nikkey - 2010-01-04

Russt Wrote:Is not. Math is cool too!

First is easier without comp, if you're denying that it's faster to solve without a computer.

The best thing I'd recommend you to do though, is to make computer programs. Start out small, then either expand them + rewrite them, or start with new projects. I've started over with a project at least 5 times, but only managed to finish it once (ironically the first...). Nevertheless, the structure of each remaking becomes better and better for each time, and it looks cleaner for each time as well.


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Spaz - 2010-01-04

Major in computer science. If you're still in high school, see if your school offers any programming classes. If not, try to get a start on your own.


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Heidi - 2010-01-04

Pomegranate Wrote:Although im probs gunna try and switch my next semester metal shops to computer prog. classes.

Yeah, that's a good idea. I struggled an insane amount in my first 3 months of computer science and didn't have a clue about what was going on. (Though I did start doing a lot better once I got used to programming, and got to really enjoy it). Learning it sooner would have helped, though my highschool didn't offer it. However I've heard that it's pretty bad at schools in NZ that offer it. (This country fails at technology Tongue). But the US/ Canada will be different.

Good luck to you, computer science ftw


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Loose - 2010-01-04

Kawasari Mimoto Wrote:...with an emulation software, very fun.
Was it Packet Tracer?

Anyways, whatever you plan on doing, remember to practice, practice, practice. Programming is a lot like math, you learn more from practicing than by just looking at it. It's also very rewarding when your little program works just the way you imagined it; like giving birth, but not really.

Good luck, man!


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Kawasari Mimoto22 - 2010-01-04

Loose Wrote:Was it Packet Tracer?

Anyways, whatever you plan on doing, remember to practice, practice, practice. Programming is a lot like math, you learn more from practicing than by just looking at it. It's also very rewarding when your little program works just the way you imagined it; like giving birth, but not really.

Good luck, man!

Yeah, I used Packet-Tracer.

EDIT: Though I admit, though I did extremely well in my last semester, I realize my own strong points and weakpoints. I have a major problem with IP-addresses, but I know the functions of equipments rather well. Networking is really intense sh't.


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Pomegranate - 2010-01-04

Haha, I knew I could count on southperry to help me out with this. Thanks alot guys/girls Smile


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - KajitiSouls - 2010-01-05

To prevent debugging pains, start small, and take small steps (like Devil's Sunrise said). Also, test your code as frequently as you can! If it doesn't do what you expect it to do between writing codes D and E, you have good reason to believe you did something wrong at code E.

As of writing this, my most ambitious project was rewritten 6 times and currently standing at 1000 lines, with about a dozen pilot (test) codes to test out concepts or answer questions. It's still going, because it'll eventually serve three other ideas I have for it.


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Pomegranate - 2010-01-06

Kawasari Mimoto Wrote:Yeah, I used Packet-Tracer.

EDIT: Though I admit, though I did extremely well in my last semester, I realize my own strong points and weakpoints. I have a major problem with IP-addresses, but I know the functions of equipments rather well. Networking is really intense sh't.

is this what you're doing "computer and network systems security"
I just looked into that. They have it at the college im going to.


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Kawasari Mimoto22 - 2010-01-06

Pomegranate Wrote:is this what you're doing "computer and network systems security"
I just looked into that. They have it at the college im going to.

I guess. My major calls it as "CIS: Computer Networking" though, if un-abbreviated, it's:

Computer Information Systems: Computer Networking

I'll describe it as best as I can. I had to go through a PAINFUL 4 semesters of learning about:

-IP addressing (A, B, C types)
-Subnetting an IP address
-Learning the functions of a: Router, Switch, Server, etc
-Learn how to build a Wide-Area Network (WAN)
-Learn to use a network simulator ; Packet Tracer
-Learn how traffic goes from a router to a switch, etc
-Learn how data is processed, and 'priorities'
-Learned how to program routers:
Quote:Such as learning how to set usernames, passwords, security for a router, pretty much. Learning how to make banners for routers, learning how to make routers talk to each other, by connecting them to a switch. Learning about debug mode when messing around with routers.


When I say routers, I don't mean those small miniature ones you buy such as Netgear. I mean real corporate routers.. But yeah, if you're interested in stuff like this, give it a shot. I will warn you now, it isn't easy sh't. I don't know if it's just my professor's expectations, or the course's curriculum or what, but those CISCO courses were a killer!

Also, this is only the tip of the iceberg. There's a lot more I learned that I didn't include in this. Some other classes I've taken:

-Client Operating Systems
-Server Operating Systems
-PC Hardware
-Network Security
-Disaster Recovery Planning
-HelpDesk Concepts
-Keyboarding (LOL 1 credit class that's online)
-And of course, my 4 CISCO courses: Introduction to Networking, Routing and Traffic, Switching and LANs, WANs and the enterprise.


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - thistwilight - 2010-01-06

I have an A.S. in Computer Programming Technology and am working on a B.S. in Computer Science with emphasis on programming. Most good schools will offer some sort of Computer Science program that will let you pick what specific area you want to go in, such as Databasing, Networking, Security, Programming, Operating Systems, etc. It should be fairly easy to figure out a program that fits your needs. Good luck! It's an awesome field Big Grin


Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Kawasari Mimoto22 - 2010-01-06

I was thinking about going for Computer Science, but that was too general for me, I'm going for either:

http://www.rmu.edu/web/cms/academics/scis/cis/Pages/bs-competitive-intel-systems.aspx

or

http://www.rmu.edu/web/cms/academics/scis/cis/Pages/bs-computer-info-systems.aspx

Probably the 2nd one.

Quote:Statistics for you:

Salary Information
2006 national mean bachelor-level starting salaries by job function:

Computer Programming $49,547
Consulting $54,143
Management Trainee $54,400
Network Administration $46,375
Sales $44,233
Software Design & Development $52,864
Systems Analysis & Design $51,753
Systems/Programming Engineering $47,695
Technical/Computer Support $47,500



Job in computer programming or to do with computers - Pomegranate - 2010-01-06

This is the computer programming analyst course.
I dont expect anyone here to read it all but just for confirmation on what im looking at.
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