# Thread: SI + Claw = ?

1. ## SI + Claw = ?

I was always wondering, does Speed Infusion work on claws? I heard that it won't work on claws that are Faster-speed because you're already at the maximum speed? Well, what about other claws (that are Normal or Fast speeds)? Also, there are small increments in terms of claw speed, example:

Fast (insert number here)
Faster (insert number here)

Can someone explain that a bit to me as well, does the lower the number mean faster, or is it vice-versa? How does SI + claw-speed work? Thanks! If it does work, which claws will it affect? Which ones won't be affected? Thanks again!

2. No.

3. k.
Lower speed number = faster. All 'fast' claws are 4, 'faster' claws like Meba, Skanda etc are 3, 'normal' claws I would assume are 6. Claw booster subtracts 2. Level 1-10 SI subtracts 1, level 11+ subtracts 1 more. So you can see that theoretically, a faster claw with all possible speed increases can reach -1. But, that's not actually attainable since speeds are capped somewhere. We're just not sure precisely where at the moment. Evidence seems to have pointed to a speed cap at 2 in the past, but after Speed Infusion reportedly increasing knuckle speed past 2, there's not really a conclusion on that.

But without SI, faster claws are already at 1 and fast claws are at 2. So if the cap is 1, SI won't work on faster claws and only give half boost to fast ones. If the cap is 2, then SI won't help anyone (and faster claws also aren't any faster than fast ones...).

4. I don't believe I've seen any difference with SI or without SI when using a Lunchbox, which is a fast(4) 1h sword. I dunno if this translates over to claws though.

5. Originally Posted by Russt
If the cap is 2, then SI won't help anyone (and faster claws also aren't any faster than fast ones...).
It helps people who use the Garnier (only normal speed claw afaik)

I did compare my Faster(3) Kandayo with Fast(4) Slain at one point, and with Booster they were the exact same (100/min). So I doubt SI would change that.

6. Originally Posted by Stereo
It helps people who use the Garnier (only normal speed claw afaik)

I did compare my Faster(3) Kandayo with Fast(4) Slain at one point, and with Booster they were the exact same (100/min). So I doubt SI would change that.
When did you test it? It seems like everything attack speed related was tweaked at some point after the release of Pirates.

7. Every sin that I used Wind Booster on in JMS says that it increased their attacking speed. o.o

8. Hmmm, omg, no-delay without no-delay!! o.O

9. it felt like i was attacking faster with SI with a fast(4) claw. maybe i just had it in my head tho =/

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