[CMS] Luminous Light/Dark system converted back to KMS version

[PirateIzzy]

And what about that new blockbuster of Crusader with that vampyre boss?

Doubtful, since it's based on JMS's Silent Crusade.

[Pythagoras]

There was a user conference for MapleSEA a few months ago that confirmed that the team wanted to bring the 5th job update at the end of this year.
The update was released on July 14 in Korea. Add the usual 5 or 6 months and you have a release date for overseas territories.

If that's the case, our schedule will be really packed considering we are just about to get Heroes of Maple two weeks later, and it will probably take two months for all acts to be released, which means immediately after HoM, we will get V lol! By the way, we still have around 1 month (i.e. November) to boot for the updates between HoM and V.

[Shion]

Just take a look at EMS, our merge time is 28th of september and we are still on v173. We should be at v175 in a month, or even v176 if gms gets another patch.

Also @Pythagoras Your sig, are those normal and magnificent souls looks? Dam I wish empress had a special effect like that on Magnificent.

[Pythagoras]

Yes, you may look for more information on Max's blog. Magnificient Lotus and Damien soul have special effect too if you wonder.

[byakugan]

Let's hope this is the start of different system getting changed to kms versions due to future content. For example starforcing, on Kms they made absolabs good cause the enhances over 15* gives way more stats, and with arcane set is the same. Lets hope we all get this enhancement system up to 25* and perhaps flames (flames back for us since we had them)

how good is start force system past the 15th start? Please tell me it is not as bad as it seems it will be with our current rates. Like 20% of success chance and lower for success with higher chances of bl0wing your item up and stuff.

I'm all in for bringing the 25 star force enhancement system over, but please make it accesible for everyone and not just whales and hackers. It can be expensive if they want but make the rates reasonable at least up to the 20th star Otherwise the change will only gonna make botters and their meso business all the more prosperous.

[Spadow]

how good is start force system past the 15th start? Please tell me it is not as bad as it seems it will be with our current rates. Like 20% of success chance and lower for success with higher chances of bl0wing your item up and stuff.

I'm all in for bringing the 25 star force enhancement system over, but please make it accesible for everyone and not just whales and hackers. It can be expensive if they want but make the rates reasonable at least up to the 20th star Otherwise the change will only gonna make botters and their meso business all the more prosperous.

You decide. The following is from items that are not of the Superior type.
The meso cost depends on what the level of the item is. The higher the level, the more you need to pay.

Star Count	Success Chance	Drop Chance	Boom Chance
14	30%	69%	1%
15	30%	0%	2%
16	30%	68%	2%
17	30%	68%	2%
18	30%	67%	3%
19	30%	67%	3%
20	30%	0%	7%
21	30%	63%	7%
22	3%	78%	19%
23	2%	69%	29%
24	1%	59%	40%

[Shion]

how good is start force system past the 15th start? Please tell me it is not as bad as it seems it will be with our current rates. Like 20% of success chance and lower for success with higher chances of bl0wing your item up and stuff.

I'm all in for bringing the 25 star force enhancement system over, but please make it accesible for everyone and not just whales and hackers. It can be expensive if they want but make the rates reasonable at least up to the 20th star Otherwise the change will only gonna make botters and their meso business all the more prosperous.

I can only tell you my experience with the 20th star system that we had on EMS.

The main goal was to get to 17* since 18* is 20%boom & chance 20%. Though a few people made it, I was struggling to get to 17* haha.

On EMS after 15* you start getting alot of stats and att/matt. Im not so sure about exact numbers for enhances (im at work so cant check) but from 15>16 you get something like 11allstats and 9att/matt, and 16>17 was something around 11allstats 11att/matt.

In general it takes alot of booms to get to 17stars. Some people make it on first try, some on thousands still cant get over 15.

My experience was making staff 16* no boom (didnt go futher than first time). Also made my Meister shoulder and Dominator pedant to 16* no boom. Cra Top/bottom took around 50 booms to get to 17stars and my hat took around 70hats or more and didnt got over 15* without booming. And my worst experience was my shield (We could get to 20* any item over 125) I used 239 Sage Deimos Shields to get to 17* (yeah I did count) and the shield went to 16* once and boomed 239times.

Though, our system while requiring alot of more items to boom, it was way cheaper than gms system. tbh I dont understand why people would go to 15* on gms paying that price for so low stats.

I guess KMS system is something around our system, with maybe higher rates?. I would suppose what we had for 15>20 is what they have for 20>25 (since all the pics I see are 21-22*)

And for what I understand the 160+ items get a bigger stat boost than 150-. Making Absolabs decent. Though cra combination of top/bottom is still better from my point of view. And arcane could potentially have way better boost than 160 items, so could be better than tylent. But you gotta ask people from KMS about this. (stares @Spadow)


Edit: Lol I got ninjaed by Spadow. But yeah we had the same booming rates on 15>20 that kms has for 20>25. But super lower succes rate after 21*

[Shads]

I wanna take note that unless they change how no booms work, 25 stars could be a bad idea for GMS. They'd either have to change no booms to not work past 15 stars or they dont give as much stat as starforcing.

[Ivangold]

Does KMS have no-boom or some restriction towards it?

[Grey]

Does KMS have no-boom or some restriction towards it?

They have no booms, I have no idea how abundant they are, though. I don't think there's any restriction on using them.

[Question]

NO boom has no limit on any item until it reach it max star
But it only work best on Superior Equip
If no boom use on non superior equip it stats gain become normal AEE or EE which are the worst stats you can possible gain
this is why startforce is better than reg EE/AEE/No-Boom unless the equip is Superior item then no boom would be a better choice than starforce

[Grey]

NO boom has no limit on any item until it reach it max star
But it only work best on Superior Equip
If no boom use on non superior equip it stats gain become normal AEE or EE which are the worst stats you can possible gain
this is why startforce is better than reg EE/AEE/No-Boom unless the equip is Superior item then no boom would be a better choice than starforce

(A)EEing gives the same stats as Star Force for all the stars currently, so if we did theoretically have 25 stars, it would be much better to use them for the 23rd, 24th, and 25th stars, since there's no chance of booming. The last 10 stars on normal equips are comparable to superior equips, so it wouldn't be too bad to use no booms on them, assuming they would even work and that they'd continue to give the same stats starforcing would, especially so if it remains at a 5% success rate, while it dips below that for 23, 24, and 25 stars in Star Force (then again, no booms say the success rate for 11+ stars is 5% or less, so it could be the same, or even worse)

[Question]

(A)EEing gives the same stats as Star Force for all the stars currently, so if we did theoretically have 25 stars, it would be much better to use them for the 23rd, 24th, and 25th stars, since there's no chance of booming. The last 10 stars on normal equips are comparable to superior equips, so it wouldn't be too bad to use no booms on them, assuming they would even work and that they'd continue to give the same stats starforcing would, especially so if it remains at a 5% success rate, while it dips below that for 23, 24, and 25 stars in Star Force (then again, no booms say the success rate for 11+ stars is 5% or less, so it could be the same, or even worse)

really since when Aee or ee give same stats as star force? was i wrong? pretty much the same on weapon but on armor i dont know i must test some later

[Grey]

really since when Aee or ee give same stats as star force? was i wrong? pretty much the same on weapon but on armor i dont know i must test some later

5 Stars

6th Star from EE

You gain 3 All Stats, like you would from Star Forcing.

And it's been this way since they added Star Force.

[Manifestation]

Last I checked, we have one more skill balance, the probable rerelease of PB and optimisation to deal with before V.

I said content in my view a skill "balance" is not new content, pink bean is a temporary event class so not content and optimisation isn't content either.

[Arrol]

I said content in my view a skill "balance" is not new content, pink bean is a temporary event class so not content and optimisation isn't content either.

Content enough for them to keep us for the next four months.

[Shion]

@Grey It wasnt like that on KMS or EMS. The scrolls would still give crappy stats.

[Question]

They have no booms, I have no idea how abundant they are, though. I don't think there's any restriction on using them.

Just found out there is a restriction on no boom / AEE / EE which is 15 star max it wont let you used on any item that has 15 star or higher
All EE/AEE/No-Boom has a limit of 15 star as it description on the item itself

[Manifestation]

Content enough for them to keep us for the next four months.

Did you even read what I posted? I said it's not content ,content is a new area,a new boss ,a NEW class that isn't temporary pink bean is an event class,a new party quest that is what I consider new content not balancing or optimization .

[Spadow]

Did you even read what I posted? I said it's not content ,content is a new area,a new boss ,a NEW class that isn't temporary pink bean is an event class,a new party quest that is what I consider new content not balancing or optimization .

Events are content. They add something to the game.