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  1. Default [Gollux Set] Superior vs Reinforced vs Alien Frag


    EDIT: I didnt really wanna redo this cuz math; but, with the addition of bonus potential on Gollux Rings, it is "easily" possible to surpass all AF Combinations. Some information below may be incorrect due specifically to Gollux Ring and %stat Potentials

    I hope you dont mind me duplicating a thread i wrote in nexon forums. I hope to revisit this and clean it up, a LOT! maybe actually use excel charts...

    I haven't seen a straight comparison of Superior Gollux, Reinforce Gollux and Alien Fragment Set, so I decided to write one.

    Visit this thread for Superior Belt vs Tyrant Belt

    All calculations are done by me, with MapleArchive, and in-game data as reference.

    Superior Bonus: (4pcs) 30% Bossing, 30% Ignore Def, 35 atk, 20 all stats, 13%hp/mp, 1500 hp/mp
    Reinforce Bonus: (4pcs) 30% Bossing, 15% Ignore Def, 30 atk, 15 all stats, 10%hp/mp, 1200 hp/mp
    Alien Frag Bonus: (5pcs)30% Bossing, ____(none)____, 50 atk, 20 all stats, 10%hp/mp 1000 hp/mp
    Advanced Gollux Scroll: (60% success) All Stat +3 Atk +4
    NX Return Scroll: (support scroll) "Choose whether or not to accept the changes to the next scroll used"
    Incredible Chaos Scroll: (random success) +/-10 to a random value
    (of goodness)

    Superior Ring 10 stats, 8 atk, 6 slot
    Superior Ear 15 stats, 10 atk, 7 slot
    Superior Pend 28 stats, 5 atk, 6 slot
    Superior Belt 60 stats, 35 atk, 3 slot
    Total: 113 stats, 58 atk, 22 slot

    Reinforce Ring 8 stats, 5 atk, 4 slot
    Reinforce Ear 12 stats, 6 atk, 7 slot
    Reinforce Pend 23 stats, 3 atk, 5 slot
    Reinforce Belt 30 stats, 20 atk, 3 slot
    Total: 53 stats, 34 atk, 19 slot

    Superior vs Reinforce:
    Superior Advantage = +45 stat +29 atk +3 slot +15% Ignore Def +3%hp/mp +300 hp/mp
    (One each of all four pieces)
    Superior Advantage = +11 stat +11 atk +4 slot +15% Ignore Def +3%hp/mp +300 hp/mp
    (Double pendant, no belt)

    Alien Frag Ring 10 stats, no slot & no potential
    Alien Frag Ear 20 stats, 5 slot
    Alien Frag Pend 25 stats, 3 slot
    Alien Frag Belt 15 stats, 3 slot
    *Alien Frag Helm 50 stats, 15 slots -biggest qualifying piece in set
    Total: 120 stats, 26 slots
    Alien Frag Set needs 5 pieces for the 30% bossing. They are level 180, so they benefit from Tier 4 increase (+1% per line). The ring cannot be scrolled or have potential. The *Helm overlaps other armor sets. As soon as you remove the *Helm as 5th piece, the entire set falls apart.

    Including *Helm, Complete Sets
    Superior Advantage 1 = +43 atk +30% Ignore Def +3%hp/mp +500 hp/mp
    Alien Frag Advantage 1a = +7 stats, +4 slots, Potential +12%
    with unlimited funds for NX return scrolls, using Incredible Chaos of Goodness on the additional 4 slots, can give an increase of +31atk, (+10 per scroll + one scroll to give atk). Still less than Superior.
    EDIT thanks to @Stereo; Each equip needs the initial +1 atk scroll slot, so to put atk on each scrollable piece, will leave no slots left over to pass ICoG.

    Including *Helm, Complete Sets
    Reinforce Advantage 1 = +14 atk +15% Ignore Def
    Alien Frag Advantage 1b = +72 stats, +7 slots, Potential +12%
    EDIT It is possible to ICoG scroll every slot minus one initial attack scroll, per equip, and come out with THREE additional slots on AF when compared to identical scrolling on Reinforced.

    NOTE: I am not comparing gollux scrolling to chaos scrolling directly, because, if you have unlimited resources, you will use the best scroll on every available slot. Therefore, only the extra slots are compared.

    Excluding AF Helm, with Double Pendant, excluding Gollux Belt, with AF Belt (Both full 4pc/5pc sets)

    Superior Advantage 2 = +7 atk +30% Ignore Def +3%hp/mp +500 hp/mp
    Alien Frag Advantage 2a = +14 stats, +1 slots

    Reinforce Advantage 2 = +15% Ignore Def
    Alien Frag Advantage 2b = +34 stats, + 11 atk, +5 slots, Potential +12%
    This was a surprise! But still, 5pcs vs 4pcs


    Four Piece AF vs Four Piece Reinforce
    (Subtracting any one piece of AF Set, Superior Gollux still remains stronger.)

    Subtract from the summaries below, the stats from any single AF piece, and the 30% Bossing.
    Even when removing the *Helm, except for -30%Bossing, 4pc AF is stronger than 4pc Reinforce.
    Alien Frag Advantage 1b = +72 stats, +7 slots, Potential +12%
    Alien Frag Advantage 2b = +34 stats, + 11 atk, +5 slots, Potential +12%

    AF Ring 10 stats, no slot (potential -3%) ___AF Ear 20 stats, 5 slot ___
    AF Pend 25 stats, 3 slot ___AF Belt 15 stats, 3 slot ___*AF Helm 50 stats, 15 slots



    Three Piece Comparison
    This is a little more difficult to compare since you could mix and match pieces. I assume each 3 piece is an identical piece from each set. 30% Bossing is no longer a contributing factor. Excluding the *Helm:

    Summary:
    Superior vs AF = Every combination of Superior will have more atk but less all stats. Since atk > stats (except maybe xenon), then Superior wins. When you factor AF's Tier 4 potential, +9% stat (1% per line, 3 lines, 3 equips) AF will be stronger. When you factor in scrolling, Superior pieces (again, excluding *helm) have many more slots than AF, and it becomes possible to re-take the advantage with +atk & +stats.

    Reinforce vs AF = For Reinforce to be stronger than AF, you must include Reinforce Belt! Including the belt, every combination of Reinforce mirrors the same conclusions as Superior vs AF. Excluding the belt, AF will be stronger.



    (My math might be a little off, because I foolishly did this without excel.)
    Last edited by kayeyearekay; 2014-08-03 at 08:45 PM.

  2. Default Re: [Gollux Set] Superior vs Reinforced vs Alien Frag


    You should take into account that most people would rather just wear 2 pendants than get the belt for reinforced or superior. Especially when Tyrant gives way better results for any funding put into them.

  3. Default Re: [Gollux Set] Superior vs Reinforced vs Alien Frag


    Why is this even worth comparing? Isn't it obvious which one wins?

  4. Default Re: [Gollux Set] Superior vs Reinforced vs Alien Frag


    I did :3, but not everyone has permanent pendant slot, or wants to pay for 30d pendant slot.

    What is obvious to some, is not always obvious to others. Showing why something is obvious is a lot better than just saying it.

  5. Default Re: [Gollux Set] Superior vs Reinforced vs Alien Frag


    those only do +/- 6

  6. Default Re: [Gollux Set] Superior vs Reinforced vs Alien Frag


    You need to scroll 4 slots for atk, not 1 - 1 per item - so they're actually at a w.atk disadvantage even then, since they have the same number of slots.

  7. Default Re: [Gollux Set] Superior vs Reinforced vs Alien Frag


    i see what you're saying, each AF equip needs the +1 atk scroll, before the chaos can give +10. I will edit

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