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    You missed my point on every single thing I said in there; THAT is why I don't think you would understand my arguments at length. It's not even about it being a waste of everyone's time, at this point.

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    I'll remain neutral on the subject, as it really no longer effects me.

    However, I do appreciate how you guys debate as opposed to what I found on FaceBook this morning:

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    I think I lost brain cells from reading this. And sadly this doenst come close to the worst I've seen from other comment outlets [for example, yahoo...]

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    SP is a very friendly and open minded place to discuss politics compared to most places, I think.

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    Most forums are. The 4 other forums that I use are discussing it as well.

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    My dad managed to convince me that the shutdown is actually not as bad as I was thinking, after about 30 minutes or so. I stated my side that I've posted in this thread, and the response I got was, "I don't think that's the case. The lower class populace of those countries may be laughing at us, but the governing bodies are probably not; in many of their countries, this would not be a shutdown, because when people disagree there, wars start. Here, the opposing sides talk problems through, there, they try to kill one another".

    So, I guess the only downside to this really is the layoffs. I've been watching the presidential speeches/grandstands over the last couple of days and poor Obama is getting more and more flustered; in one of them he literally said the stock market NEEDS to be dropping more, they should BE AFRAID OF THIS SHUTDOWN. "this time I think Wall Street should be concerned". I lol'd; he really does have an ego bigger than any president I've lived through, aside from maybe Clinton, since technically he thought screwing everything that moved was OK even though he is married. I hope it lasts until the debt ceiling issue, that way both sides will have actual leverage and real negotiations will start happening; right now it's just a stalemate between the stubborn and the retarded.

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    Being furloughed and being laid off aren't synonymous.

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    Neither gets paid, and that's all that really matters.

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    Hahaha wow.

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    Ugh. Really?

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    They are pushing a bill to backpay those furloughed and I think all the personal have gotten "Unemployment benefits", so although they are not the same, a missing paycheck is a missing paycheck doesn't matter what you call it.

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    I'm sorry, is that incorrect? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

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    When someone is laid off, they've lost the job. When someone is furloughed, their job has been put on hold.

    You can't go back to a job you've lost. You can have rational expectations of returning to a job that has been put on hold.

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    Indeed. My father and brother are filing for it soon. The House and Senate are both pushing for furloughed employees to receive backpay, which is sure to make some heads roll, meh. As for myself...I was called to return to work shortly after and I am still expected to work while not receiving a paycheck (I'm guaranteed to be paid eventually while furloughed employees may or may not receive anything, although I recall reading every previous furlough has resulted in employees getting retropay).

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    Right. No other differences though? I don't know, maybe I'm missing something. Apparently from what you are saying though, it's not even as serious as I thought it was, so there are no downsides to this shutdown, they didn't really lose their jobs, just a paycheck or two. Which, hey, that sucks, but losing your job definitely sucks more.

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    People not working can be considered a 'downside'. However people who are furloughed at least know that work and wages are coming to them once everything blows over.

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    Just the fact that something as essential as NASA is heavily impacted by the shutdown baffles me. I only hope that we can manage to avoid another recession before the teabaggers are eradicated in 2014. If I were the president, I'd declare Boehner, Cruz and their old rich white ass buddies traitors, and order the military to have them executed for high treason.

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    I love space exploration more than most, but since when is NASA essential to anyone but NASA?

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies
    http://lightyears.blogs.cnn.com/2012...-so-important/

    Bonus:

  20. Nuclear testing facility Straight Male
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    @Ryukiroku; Hardly time sensitive issues. No doubt it will be back to being massively underfunded just like the rest of the government in a few days.

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