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  1. Default Aswan Bonus Coins


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    Hi guys. I need help figuring out what order to do Aswan (between Easy, Normal, and Hard) so that I can maximize the following three parameters.

    1. The maximum number of coins per day. (Also, if it's not too much trouble, please post the amount of time required.)

    2. The fastest rate of obtaining coins based on:
    Easy mode: 45 sec average
    Normal mode: 1 min average
    Hard mode: 6.5 min average (because I like defense mode more)

    3. Suppose I came home at 10 pm, and I wanted to get the most coins before midnight. Using the times above, what path should I follow to maximize my coins?

    The number of coins you're supposed to get (without bonus coins) are:
    Easy: 1
    Normal: 3
    Hard: 5 + 1 Emperor coin

    This is the same for all Occupy, Attack, and Defense modes. Emperor coins are worth 11 conqueror coins each.

    The numbers of coins given per single run are shown in the following table. The coin count is the number that the "Coin Master" NPC, Woodwan, shows when you finish the stage and go to him to collect your coins. For example, suppose you were just starting your first Aswan run today. Woodwan will say 0/150. Suppose the first run you do is a Normal mode run. After you clear the stage, Woodwan will show 3/150. You then click the first option, "I've come to claim my FIght for Azwan clearance reward." Woodwan will give you 4 Conqueror coins.

    There is a glitch with the hard mode that even though you obtain 5 conqueror coins, Woodwan will increase the counter by 6. For example, suppose your first run of the day is an easy mode run. Woodwan shows 1/150. Then, you do a hard mode run. When you finish the stage, Woodwan will show 7/150.

    CoinCountEasyNormalHard 
     ConquerorConquerorConquerorEmperor
    02462
    12462
    22462
    32462
    42462
    53572
    63572
    73572
    83572
    93572
    104683
    114683
    124683
    134683
    144683
    155793
    165793
    175793
    185793
    195793
    2068104
    2168104
    2268104
    2368104
    2468104
    2579114
    2679114
    2779114
    2879114
    2979114
    30810125
    31810125
    32810125
    33810125
    34810125
    35911135
    36911135
    37911135
    38911135
    39911135
    401012146
    411012146
    421012146
    431012146
    441012146
    451113156
    461113156
    471113156
    481113156
    491113156
    501214167
    511214167
    521214167
    531214167
    541214167
    551315177
    561315177
    571315177
    581315177
    591315177
    601416188
    611416188
    621416188
    631416188
    641416188
    651517198
    661517198
    671517198
    681517198
    691517198
    701618209
    711618209
    721618209
    731618209
    741618209
    751719219
    761719219
    771719219
    781719219
    791719219
    8018202210
    8118202210
    8218202210
    8318202210
    8418202210
    8519212310
    8619212310
    8719212310
    8819212310
    8919212310
    9020222411
    9120222411
    9220222411
    9320222411
    9420222411
    9521232511
    9621232511
    9721232511
    9821232511
    9921232511
    10022242612
    10122242612
    10222242612
    10322242612
    10422242612
    10523252712
    10623252712
    10723252712
    10823252712
    10923252712
    11024262813
    11124262813
    11224262813
    11324262813
    11424262813
    11525272913
    11625272913
    11725272913
    11825272913
    11925272913
    12026283014
    12126283014
    12226283014
    12326283014
    12426283014
    12527293114
    12627293114
    12727293114
    12827293114
    12927293114
    13028303215
    13128303215
    13228303215
    13328303215
    13428303215
    13529313315
    13629313315
    13729313315
    13829313315
    13929313315
    14030323416
    14130323416
    14230323416
    14330323416
    14430323416
    14531333516
    14631333516
    14731333516
    14831333516
    14931333516
    15032343617
    150 (151) 333517
    150 (152) 323417
    150 (153)  3317
    150 (154)  3217

  2. Default Re: Aswan Bonus Coins


    I don't see what's glitchy. Woodwan's counter keeps track of the total number of coins, whether conqueror or emperor.

    If the following is too WoT for you, jump to the end for the tl;dr.

    Consider the ending phase, where you receive 30 bonus conqueror's coins per Easy run, vs 5+1 coins per Hard run. Recognise that the issue now is whether bonus coins*5runs[Easy] > bonus coins + base coins[Hard]. It's obviously understood that bonus coins*5runs[easy] > base coins[Hard].

    At 140 coins till 145 coins, for Easy mode you receive a total of 5 Conqueror's coins + 150 bonus Conqueror's coins over 5 runs (using your data). That's 155, which is worth approx. 15 Emperor's coins.

    At the similar time/coinpoint, for Hard mode you receive 16 bonus Emperor's coins. This alone is more than what you get for Easy mode. At earlier stages, a similar outcome applies.


    Now for time issue. You need 150 runs for Easy (which is pretty boring), or 25 runs for Hard. That implies that you need 2.5 to 3 hours for both cases, because I'm also taking into account server lag and other issues. But by your numbers, Hard mode uses 162.5 minutes while Easy mode uses 112.5 minutes.

    If you came home at 10pm, then you only have a maximum of 120 minutes theoretically. Using your numbers, you can finish all the Easy mode, or you can only run 18 out of 25 Hard mode runs (i.e. up to the equivalent of the 108th run). Not counting round 150 because you can't have any carry-over for Easy mode, you have a grand total of 2475 Conqueror's coins, or the equivalent of 225 Emperor's coins.
    If you ran Hard mode, then you will get 285 Conqueror's coins and 121 Emperor's coins, or grand total equivalent of 146~147 Emperor's coins.

    If you continued after 12am, but did not collect your coins (makes the most sense), then it will result in a carry-over to the next day. The carry-over counts to the bonus coins, so you will have 35 Conqueror's coins and 7 Emperor's coins to start off each day. Your bonus count will jump by one stage for the hard mode. Carrying on the idea, you will get a grand total of 167 Emperor's coins (in equivalents).

    The break-even point for Hard mode is 23 runs out of 25 daily possible ones, assuming you can finish Easy mode 150 times within the time bonus period. 22 Hard mode runs with carry-over does not break even with 150 Easy mode runs.



    tl;dr
    Conclusion: If you only had 2 hours to play each day, you should run Easy mode. If you had 3 hours to play, you should play Hard mode. If you have nowhere close to 3 hours, play easy mode. If you take 5 minutes per Hard attack mode, you should run Hard attack mode instead if you badly want coins. I have used your numbers, and I assume that those numbers are pretty accurate and slightly on the generous side to account for buffing.

    Also note that Hard mode defend always gives more honour exp than easy mode. The only time I've ever had more honour EXP than Hard mode defend was a solo party hard mode attack, with nearly 8k honour exp. Goes without saying that it takes a long time, say about 7-8 minutes.

    Hadriel

  3. Default Re: Aswan Bonus Coins


    This thread bring up something I didn't think of until I looked at your table. I've been running 25 Hard Attacks a day, but I just realized, I should be running 24 Hard Attacks, 5 Easy then capping off with one more Hard Attack. Don't do it. Oh wait, I vaguely remember him cutting off coins once you reach that 150, can anyone confirm my faltering memory? Yes.

    Sorry for the stream of consciousness thing there, I didn't want backspace.

  4. Orbital Bee Cannon
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    Default Re: Aswan Bonus Coins


    Yes, once you reach 150 you get nothing more.
    So if you have the time, you should do 25 Hards.
    If you can't fit that into the time you have, do the Easies first, I think. You only get bonus Emperor coins on Hard runs, so you want your last runs (the ones that get the biggest bonuses) to be Hard ones.

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    Confirming, and the worst part, he skips on the good coins

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