Tempest Set VS Current Equipment

[FangelXIII]

Okay so I was thinking about replacing my Corsair's current gear with the Tempest set since I only have a single piece of the Empress set.

But, I'm starting to think this isn't worth it and the math is driving me up the wall.

Corsair Gear:

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Pirate Goggles
+15 all stat, 5 attack.

Homecoming Victory Jacket:
9 str, 5 all other stats, 2 attack.

Homecoming Victory Shorts:
+1 all stat, 2 attack.

Homecoming Victory Gloves:
+7 all stat, +8 attack

Sharp Green Leather Belt:
+1 dex, 4% dex potential

Shark Tooth Skipper Boots:
+16 str, + 15 dex, +12 dex potential

Half Earrings:
+4 dex, 6% dex potential.

Homecoming Ring:
+2 dex, +2 attack

Homecoming Victory Eqaulette
+3 all stat

Homecoming Victory 6 set effect:
+14 all stat, +10 attack

Legendary Maple Scarf:
+8 dex, +6 all other stats, 1 attack, 4 all stat potential

Blue Donkey Balloon:
+5 attack

Tempest Set:

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Tempest Feather Hat:
+7 all stat, 1 attack, hidden potential

Tempest Hooded Robe:
+8 all stat, 1 attack, hidden potential

Tempest Gloves:
+7 all stat, 1 attack, hidden potential

Tempest Shoes:
+6 all stat, 1 attack, hidden potential

Tempest Cape:
+3 all stat, 1 attack, hidden potential

Tempest Epaulet:
+6 all stat, 3 attack, hidden potential

Tempest Ring:
+6 all stat, 2 attack, 1 upgrade slot, free potential

Tempest Belt:
+6 all stat, hidden potential

Tempest Earrings:
+3 all stat, hidden potential

Tempest Pendant:
+5 all stat, 1 attack, hidden potential

Tempest 8 set bonus:
10% HP/MP, 30 all stats, 35 attack

So...yeah. I'm really not sure. The potential on the tempest stuff could really give me a boost, and the Tempest set bonus is really nice. But it would require me to change everything except for my weapon.

[hadriel]

Simple question: do you have enough money to cube the Tempest eq? If yes, then you shouldn't even be considering Tempest because Empress > Tempest. If no, then don't move.

And I feverently hope that you realise that Tempest gives only 35 attack, and that 45 attack of yours is a typo.

Hadriel

[FangelXIII]

Simple question: do you have enough money to cube the Tempest eq? If yes, then you shouldn't even be considering Tempest because Empress > Tempest. If no, then don't move.

And I feverently hope that you realise that Tempest gives only 35 attack, and that 45 attack of yours is a typo.

Hadriel

I don't have the in game money for Empress or the real life money to cube the Tempest. So I'll stick with the current equipment.

And I didn't notice the typo, thanks for that.

[Carlos n,n]

I don't have the in game money for Empress or the real life money to cube the Tempest. So I'll stick with the current equipment.

And I didn't notice the typo, thanks for that.

Use your coins to supply FM with something that everyone wants from the Tempest shop that's in good demand to fund your Empress gear. Rings and shoulders, for example. Although you may think, "Well everyone can get them," farming up those coins over and over is horrid. So you can probably makes some decent change by selling the items at good prices since people like myself would eventually start to just buy them in FM after 5 failed attempts through coin farming.

[MuscleWizard]

Hmm.
I wonder.
In prepping for demon avenger, is it possible to get the hp bonus from empress and from tempest?

[hadriel]

Yes totally possible, but not optimal.

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Equipment	Tempest	Empress	Alternatives	Comments
Weapon	Yes	Yes	Whatever you can find e.g. Azwan	Not the deal-breaker imo
Helm	Yes	Yes	Dogma, Mesoranger, CZak	Dogma has non-chaos-able 6MA
Overall	Yes	Yes	Mesoranger	Helm + Overall Mesoranger = 10MA => average 5MA each, not considering scrolling (20+-INT each is easy to get tbh);
Gloves	Yes	Yes	Flamekeeper or whatever MA-dumping gloves; anything that gives DSE and DSI	Seriously should get DSI if you're Lumi and you're rich.
Shoes	Yes	Yes	Chaos-ed Dark Neli/Varr/Mesoranger shoes	Not the deal breaker imo... but I've seen some pretty decent stuff
Cape	Yes	Yes	Helsium; Purple capes; Balloons	Helsium IS the deal breaker! Empress cape is zomg expensive!
Belt	Yes	No	Helsium; Witch belt and related; Mystic belt; Silent Crusade belt	Helsium! Witch belt! Mystic set gives 6MA and 7all for 3rd, 4th and 5th set effects i.e. 3-4MA on average
Shoulder	Yes	No	Silent Crusade; the usual forged shoulders etc.	Tempest shoulder has pot!!!
Earrings	Yes	No	Scrolled earrings, Mystic earrings	The second-last deal breaker
Pendant	No	No	Silent Crusade; Dominater, C/HT, MoN, Mystic, [spirit pendant]	Tempest/Mystic/Silent Crusade are Chaos-able. Tempest NOT part of set
Ring	No	No	Explorer's magical ring; you name it...	Whatever. Note Explorers' now give +20% min crit damage. Tempest ring NOT part of set BUT has pot!!
Eye	No	No	Mystic (1MA, 1 slot), Goggles, whatever you could find over the years	Not sure if Mystic is pot-able.
Face	No	No	Mystic (1MA, 1 slot), crafted face paints, Reverse DB mask etc.	Ditto above.
Nett	8 items	6 items	Empress > Tempest if you're rich. Empress // Mystic/Rising sun but Tempest not fully compatible	If we're ever getting those Rising Tempest set items... I wouldn't get them other than for looks (13 items!)

So pick any 3 from one set, and pick 3 others from the other set. You might want the Mystic set, or have your own accessories for that matter. However, I'm not so sure if you want to shell out so much for an Empress weapon... and also not sure if there will be Tempest Desperados. If I were you and I really want that HP boost, then I'd go like this:

Empress: Overall, gloves, shoes (the cheapest and most available of the lot too)
Tempest: Shoulder, belt, earrings
Events/in-game: weapon, helm (hur hur)
Choice of own cape

But why do you want the HP bonuses so much?

Hadriel

[MuscleWizard]

Tempest ring/belt/shoulder work?
Not for lumi, for demon avenger, who has hp main stat.
unless that changed.
That way I could wear rex earrings, czak, chtp, 3 empress, 3 tempest and other goodies.

I just wanna hit dat 500k hp cap. Hehe.

[Untradeable]

Tempest ring/belt/shoulder work?
Not for lumi, for demon avenger, who has hp main stat.
unless that changed.
That way I could wear rex earrings, czak, chtp, 3 empress, 3 tempest and other goodies.

I just wanna hit dat 500k hp cap. Hehe.

Ring does not count as part of the Tempest set, neither does the pendant iirc.

[Cere]

Ring does not count as part of the Tempest set, neither does the pendant iirc.

Awwwww pineapple, I bought the ring to no good purpose. And I won't be able to get the damn attack bonus neither. Damn, damn, damn.

Well, it did have better stats than the SC ring I guess, and it's potted. Still.

[hadriel]

The ring is good for its pot. The usual alternatives would be Evolving, W/D/ABR, Legendary Ring, [Gratias Rings, Explorer's Rings, Lirin's/etc. Rings] choose one, positive chaosed-Silent Crusade ring (obviously you can also chaos the Tempest ring), the pair of set rings or other rings from other sets. But I feel that for new characters without those prior rings, the Tempest ring is a really good deal.

Oh, also not forgetting the rings with those class-specific bonuses like Luminous's Ring.

Hadriel

[IllegallySane]

I would say though that the Tempest set is amazing swag. Anvil that on ALL your equipment, or if you're poor like me grab the Tempest set because you don't want to go spend a over half a billion on Empress gear. For me it's made worse since for a Pirate the Empress cape is stupidly overpriced.