Season 2, Who will win it?

[Dark Link]

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TSM throwing out excuses? They got outplayed, simple as that.
At least General OddOne accepts their defeat like a true general!

Wait. I stopped watching game 2 of TSM vs. Frost midway through because of lag and quality issues. Are you really telling me that -snip-

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They didn't "throw" the game, they just got massively outplayed.

[Raul]

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TSM throwing out excuses? What else is new...

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They didn't "throw" the game, they just got massively outplayed.

Getting played out of a big early advantage counts as throwing last I checked. If you get an advantage and proceed to lose it and the game that's a throw. The only exception is against a late game teamcomp which still kinda counts as a throw if you can't convert your advantage into an actual win.
However what even happened? They don't seem like the kind of team that would throw most games.

[Dark Link]

What kind of retarded definition is that? lol

"Throwing" means to "lose on purpose" and I highly doubt they wanted to do that.

[Derosis]

Basically the passive farm game loses in the aggressive tower push game.

[Raul]

What kind of retarded definition is that? lol

"Throwing" means to "lose on purpose" and I highly doubt they wanted to do that.

If throwing meant only losing on purpose then saying /* iG threw both games against m5 */ would would be wrong yet I've seen it described it as a throw by basically everyone today.

[Derosis]

about an hour ago


Well..TSM isn't even trying..they still use karthus team comp..why they save secret team comp for Season 3..T n T

wat...

[Dark Link]

If throwing meant only losing on purpose then saying ***Hidden content cannot be quoted.***would would be wrong yet I've seen it described it as a throw by basically everyone today.

It's cause those fanboys won't admit that they got outplayed.

[Derosis]

It's cause those fanboys won't admit that they got outplayed.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege...maconclusions/

Just saying he put up his AMA. Not trying to counter you to anything. I just want to put the anger down to rest.

[Dark Link]

Just saying he put up his AMA. Not trying to counter you to anything. I just want to put the anger down to rest.

I'mtalking about all the idiots / fanboys who are like "Oh they just threw the game, they weren't really trying" or other bullpomegranate, because they won't admit their team got outplayed by the opposing team.

I wasn't trying to downplay /* TSM or IG */ or anything, if that's what people were getting the impression of

[WillDaSnail]

Even though TSM lost, here are some positive points

Despite the fact TSM lost 2-0 and were eliminated from the World Championships, one thing that I saw that really impressed me the most was....

They actually played as a team. Everything they did was very coordinated and if anything, they were very, very few "whoops" moments. IMO, their team performance in the S2 Championships was the best I've ever seen from them. Hell, they were able to last quite a bit despite being outplayed, and they didn't quit until their Nexus blew up. While I understand why a number of teams in the S2 championships surrendered - notably being far too behind - TSM was a strong example of a team going strong until the end, never letting bad teamfights and bad plays deal a huge blow to their morale and performance.

On another note, Dyrus's dad apparently was present in the audience watching his son compete in the S2 Championships. I wonder how he felt...lol

[Derosis]

Also did you guys notice that Azubu frost was looking up at the minimap during the 1st game when it was paused. Yeah, they kinda found out their initial strategy and ruined TSM's momentum. They need to change how they do the championships next time.

[Nion]

Also did you guys notice that Azubu frost was looking up at the minimap during the 1st game when it was paused. Yeah, they kinda found out their initial strategy and ruined TSM's momentum. They need to change how they do the championships next time.

Are they allowed to do so? I'm thinking yes.

[Kaasoljoyyx]

Are they allowed to do so? I'm thinking yes.

They should not be allowed to. Similar reason for why they have to keep those headphones on so they don't hear the commentators/crowd.

Also in chaox's interview, he never really made excuses. He admits frost was a better team (and honestly they were definitely better than TSM-Regional status) and he gives credit where credit is due unlike some teams that say "oh we played badly" or "oh this happened so that's why we lost." They did the exact same thing at MLG summer arena when blaze 5-0'd them and they said "dam blaze is really good and they're a lot better than us, we need to step our game up"

TSM performed really well with minor mistakes. Azubu frost was just better. That doesn't mean TSM is bad either. When frost banned katarina, they knew TSM was going to use it and they didn't wanna face it. TSM has been pretty secretive but in a TSM invitational a couple weeks ago, reginald used katarina at least once in a game. That just shows you the level of research frost did. While TSM is really public with that sort of stuff, some teams aren't. The casters made a comment how TPA does a lot of custom games to scrim/practice but they leave the game and don't finish it so it doesn't show up in their match history.

[Dark Link]

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I believe even Dyrus stated the minimap shenanigans in his Reddit AMA.

Also...USE SPOILERS YOU IDIOTS!

[Derosis]

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I believe even Dyrus stated the minimap shenanigans in his Reddit AMA.

Also...USE SPOILERS YOU IDIOTS!

I say you can spoiler it on the day of, but the day after we're fine.

They should not be allowed to. Similar reason for why they have to keep those headphones on so they don't hear the commentators/crowd.

Apparantly they never said they couldn't. But I think this is going to allow Riot to rethink how they have their players positioned.

[Five Second Pose]

I say you can spoiler it on the day of, but the day after we're fine.

I think the "24 hours after the last game in the series ended" rule would work a lot better.

[CommanderJinn]

I wonder why Riot didn't use the booth setup instead of the open air setup. Typically booths are better as they block sound, as well as prevent players from looking at anything besides the crowd and their own screen.

[WillDaSnail]

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Asian teams OP

CLG.EU down 0-1 vs WE

Edit: Steam exploded as of 1:50 PM PST

Edit 2: Stream back up as of at 2:00 PM PST

Edit 3: Interwebz problems OP. Took the stream offline and completely stopped gameplay.

Edit 4: Apparently LoL S2 World Championships takes up 5% of NA's total bandwidth. LoL OP

Edit 5: Game 2 will have to be remade, with both sides having to use the same picks, bans, runes, and masteries. Inb4 conspiracy theories.

Edit 6: And apparently the players are arguing with Riot staff up on stage right now.

Edit 7: Remake of Game 2 will be COMPLETELY new, with new picks and bans.

Fiddlesticks OP

[Raph589]

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How to make an incredible comeback by CLG.EU. Also, Froggen is best mid.

[Raul]

The incoming pomegranatestorm about this is probably gonna be huge.

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WE almost certainly was gonna win the original game two to sweep clg. Now they've lost one and could very well lose a second. If I were WE and I ended up losing I would raise one hell of a ruckus. I guess clg.eu is the real Christian Logic Gaming not clg.na. Close though liftlift.