AD carry + Support Synergy

[Kaasoljoyyx]

I main support and I don't see orianna as a typical support. She's really low on usefulness as one. Keep her at AP mid where she belongs.

[KajitiSouls]

Doesn't a website have information similar to this? I know for sure that it displays win rate percentages, but it doesn't explain why it works.

Karma has an absurdly high win rate in lane last I saw this stuff. That does not necessarily mean she's viable though, since it could be a bunch of low elo players supplying those stats.

EDIT: http://www.lolking.net/charts?region...m-lane-synergy

[Five Second Pose]

Karma has an absurdly high win rate because there are no bad Karma players, they're either really good or they don't play her at all. Also, I'm not sure what the criteria is for being listed there so some of them might be mid Karmas.

[Remoir]

I'd say Soraka goes with MF and Vayne.

MF doesn't have the cheapest mana costs as well as gets harrassed easier by having no escape.
Vayne just because she could use the sustain to actually get further into the game.

Cait + Sona is a good poke lane.

Also, i like Support Lux but unsure what she'd be best with. I've had success with Ashe and Vayne, probably because you can set up both for a hard cc chain, along with a Lux full combo burst.

[Derosis]

Soraka:
Works Well with:

• Corki
• Graves
• Varus
• MF

Works Okay With:

• Draven
• Urgot
• Tristana
• Cait

No Go:

• Vayne
• Ashe

Sona:
Works Well with:

• Urgot
• Draven
• Tristana
• Graves
• Cait

Works Okay with:

• Ashe
• Vayne

No go:

• Corki
• Varus

Taric:
Works Well with:

• Corki
• Graves
• Draven
• Tristana
• Vayne
• Cait

Works Okay with:

• Ashe
• Varus
• Urgot
• Mf

No Go:

• Pretty much good with a lot of people.

Janna:
Works Well with:

• Ashe
• Graves
• Tristana
• Vayne
• Draven
• Urgot
• Varus
• Cait

Works okay with:

• Mf
• Corki

No go:

• Too much CC & Strong passive for there not to be a good synergized AD. Worst would be Corki in my opinion.

Leona:
Works Well with:

• Corki
• Graves
• Tristana
• Vayne
• Draven
• Urgot
• Varus
• Mf
• Cait

Works Okay with:

• Ashe

No go:

• Same reasons as Janna. Ashe is the only Okay as she doesn't benefit as well form Leonas stuns as much as the other bursty AD carries we have now do.

Nunu:
Works Well with:

• Mf
• Ashe
• Vayne
• Draven
• Varus

Works Okay with:

• Tristana
• Graves
• Cait

No go:

• Urgot
• Corki

More to come later.

[Five Second Pose]

If you pair Leona with Ashe there's almost no chance a target gets away even with Flash because of Ashe's ult and Q.

[Raph589]

Soraka:
Works Well with:

• Corki
• Graves
• Varus
• MF

Works Okay With:

• Draven
• Urgot
• Tristana

No Go:

• Vayne
• Ashe

Sona:
Works Well with:

• Urgot
• Draven
• Tristana
• Graves

Works Okay with:

• Ashe
• Vayne

No go:

• Corki
• Varus

Taric:
Works Well with:

• Corki
• Graves
• Draven
• Tristana
• Vayne

Works Okay with:

• Ashe
• Varus
• Urgot
• Mf

No Go:

• Pretty much good with a lot of people.

Janna:
Works Well with:

• Ashe
• Graves
• Tristana
• Vayne
• Draven
• Urgot
• Varus

Works okay with:

• Mf
• Corki

No go:

• Too much CC & Strong passive for there not to be a good synergized AD. Worst would be Corki in my opinion.

Leona:
Works Well with:

• Corki
• Graves
• Tristana
• Vayne
• Draven
• Urgot
• Varus
• Mf

Works Okay with:

• Ashe

No go:

• Same reasons as Janna. Ashe is the only Okay as she doesn't benefit as well form Leonas stuns as much as the other bursty AD carries we have now do.

Nunu:
Works Well with:

• Mf
• Ashe
• Vayne
• Draven
• Varus

Works Okay with:

• Tristana
• Graves

No go:

• Urgot
• Corki

More to come later.

You forgot about melee AD carries like Yi and Fiora.

[Five Second Pose]

You forgot about melee AD carries like Yi and Fiora.

Neither of those go bot.

[Derosis]

If you pair Leona with Ashe there's almost no chance a target gets away even with Flash because of Ashe's ult and Q.

It's why I put her with the okay list. Ashe is still kind of a high skill cap champion.

Not sure if you were directing to op or me, so I just quoted based off my experiences.

[Raul]

Derosis you left Cait off.

[Derosis]

Derosis you left Cait off.

I don't like Cait, but fine ill edit my list.

[Five Second Pose]

It's why I put her with the okay list. Ashe is still kind of a high skill cap champion.

Not sure if you were directing to op or me, so I just quoted based off my experiences.

I'm directing it at you. The reasoning you provided had nothing to do with the skill level of the Ashe player, you said Ashe doesn't "have enough burst"

[Derosis]

I'm directing it at you. The reasoning you provided had nothing to do with the skill level of the Ashe player, you said Ashe doesn't "have enough burst"

From Lv 1~6 her burst isn't enough. As in her Ult + E as burst damage. But later on that W in Mid game (Lv 9~13, if she does get farmed and 1/2 kills) does well, but it falls off late game as her only attribution to the team is vision, global ulting, slows and amazing DPS. No real burst after that.

Example: Graves Q does amazing Burst Damage, Corki's Ult does amazing burst damage, Tristana has amazing burst damage with her W + E combo, Vayne does a literal sh'it on people if she gets fed with true damage.

[Aynia]

From Lv 1~6 her burst isn't enough. As in her Ult + E as burst damage. But later on that W in Mid game (Lv 9~13, if she does get farmed and 1/2 kills) does well, but it falls off late game as her only attribution to the team is vision, global ulting, slows and amazing DPS. No real burst after that.

Example: Graves Q does amazing Burst Damage, Corki's Ult does amazing burst damage, Tristana has amazing burst damage with her W + E combo, Vayne does a literal sh'it on people if she gets fed with true damage.

WOT

THIS IS DUM GRAVES WILL NEVER Q FOR BURST UNLESS HE STANDING IN MELEE RANGE
CORKI'S ULT IS GOOD FOR PROCING TRINITY AND POKE, NOT BURST
TRIST ISN'T GOING TO USE SKILLS LATE GAME OTHER THAN Q FOR DAMAGE
VAYNE IS VAYNE

ASHE PRETTY GREAT SCALING, HER DAMAGE IS SKYHIGH WITH VOLLEY, ONLY LIMITED BY MANA

HOWEVER, ASHE + LEONA IS A pomegranate LANE

[Derosis]

WOT

THIS IS DUM GRAVES WILL NEVER Q FOR BURST UNLESS HE STANDING IN MELEE RANGE
CORKI'S ULT IS GOOD FOR PROCING TRINITY AND POKE, NOT BURST
TRIST ISN'T GOING TO USE SKILLS LATE GAME OTHER THAN Q FOR DAMAGE
VAYNE IS VAYNE

ASHE PRETTY GREAT SCALING, HER DAMAGE IS SKYHIGH WITH VOLLEY, ONLY LIMITED BY MANA

I'm going to smack you with a hot skillet if you type like that again.

Response:

1. Golden rule in League: Target the AD carry. When getting closed in Graves is one of the best at getting the f'uck out. W + Q combo with E dash for escape or chase. Too strong and very bursty.
2. Nigga you high?
3. Nigga you high?
4. Well, duh?

[Five Second Pose]

From Lv 1~6 her burst isn't enough. As in her Ult + E as burst damage. But later on that W in Mid game (Lv 9~13, if she does get farmed and 1/2 kills) does well, but it falls off late game as her only attribution to the team is vision, global ulting, slows and amazing DPS. No real burst after that.

Example: Graves Q does amazing Burst Damage, Corki's Ult does amazing burst damage, Tristana has amazing burst damage with her W + E combo, Vayne does a literal sh'it on people if she gets fed with true damage.

You gave two very different reasons for Ashe/Leona only being "ok". Pick one.

WOT

THIS IS DUM GRAVES WILL NEVER Q FOR BURST UNLESS HE STANDING IN MELEE RANGE

so you know

he'll q for burst when he's qing for burst

[Aynia]

You gave two very different reasons for Ashe/Leona only being "ok". Pick one.



so you know

he'll q for burst when he's qing for burst

NOT REALLY

IT AIN'T THAT BURSTY UNLESS YOU'RE STANDING ROUGHLY HALF A TEEMO AWAY FROM HIM IN WHICH CASE, THERE ARE MORE PRESSING QUESTIONS

[Five Second Pose]

NOT REALLY

IT AIN'T THAT BURSTY UNLESS YOU'RE STANDING ROUGHLY HALF A TEEMO AWAY FROM HIM IN WHICH CASE, THERE ARE MORE PRESSING QUESTIONS

Quickdraw -> Buckshot -> Collateral Damage -> Ignite

Like I said, he'll Q for burst when he's Qing for burst.

[Aynia]

Quickdraw -> Buckshot -> Collateral Damage -> Ignite

Like I said, he'll Q for burst when he's Qing for burst.

SO YOU GET HIT FOR 2 OUT OF 3 Q'S AT BEST

ALSO IF SORAKA HEALS YOU ANYWHERE BEFORE YOU GET ULTED, YOU LIVE AND LAUGH

OR IF YOU JOOK DA ULT

I LOVE IT WHEN I JOOK ULTS

ONLY TIME I SEE GRAVES HIT ALL 3 BUCKSHOTS IS WHEN HE'S TOP LANE AGAINST MELEE

[Derosis]

SO YOU GET HIT FOR 2 OUT OF 3 Q'S AT BEST

ALSO IF SORAKA HEALS YOU ANYWHERE BEFORE YOU GET ULTED, YOU LIVE AND LAUGH

OR IF YOU JOOK DA ULT

I LOVE IT WHEN I JOOK ULTS

ONLY TIME I SEE GRAVES HIT ALL 3 BUCKSHOTS IS WHEN HE'S TOP LANE AGAINST MELEE

Quickdraw -> Buckshot -> Collateral Damage -> Ignite

Like I said, he'll Q for burst when he's Qing for burst.