Hi, we killed Empress.

[DamageCalc]

Are you normally allowed to chain bind and crash like that?

[OmegazeroGA]

Come on, we're more better than that to ignite a flame war.
So what is this called? Pre-bug-fix-legit Empress Kill?

Are you normally allowed to chain bind and crash like that?

Only recently after some server maintenance if I recall...

[ImaGuy]

Are you normally allowed to chain bind and crash like that?

Um there was a server maintenance that allowed bind and crash to be chained in succession( Bind->another bind or crash ->another crash). But that got fixed recently, so runners would have no choice but to bind first and then crash afterwards (or reverse) and then wait for the cool down. If you watch from 10:06 in the second video you can see they actually do this. They bind the empress when timer is at 32;41 then crash before the bind ends. After wards all but 1 DS retreat and they have to wait until 31;00 before they can repeat the bind/crash cycle. They cant attack her as a group outside that 40 second window because shell just spam reflect.

[DamageCalc]

Um there was a server maintenance that allowed bind and crash to be chained in succession( Bind->another bind or crash ->another crash). But that got fixed recently, so runners would have no choice but to bind first and then crash afterwards (or reverse) and then wait for the cool down. If you watch from 10:06 in the second video you can see they actually do this. They bind the empress when timer is at 32;41 then crash before the bind ends. After wards all but 1 DS retreat and they have to wait until 31;00 before they can repeat the bind/crash cycle. They cant attack her as a group outside that 40 second window because shell just spam reflect.

Yup thanks, just checking.

Impressive nonetheless.

[iiStevche]

Are you normally allowed to chain bind and crash like that?

Just saying this kill was back in April and we dont chain crash and bind simultaneously as in one after the after infinite times. You are allowed to use bind + crash then you have to wait 1min-2min RIGHT NOW though you are allowed infinite times which is really nice LOL.

[Dark Link]

Just saying this kill was back in April and we dont chain crash and bind simultaneously as in one after the after infinite times. You are allowed to use bind + crash then you have to wait 1min-2min RIGHT NOW though you are allowed infinite times which is really nice LOL.

The chain was only open for 1 week then got fixed the following SC. I even mentioned it in my own topic.

[iiStevche]

The chain was only open for 1 week then got fixed the following SC. I even mentioned it in my own topic.

Mk. K i guess that makes sense since we tried it few days ago thinking it would make it easier to kill..and nothing was happening. Our next assumption that it would have had to been Crash + Bind etc. Instead of Crash + Crash lalala...

[OverdriverxxP]

Assuming 60billion hp in one hour
That's 1 Billion per minute
Is that really that much?
(Well when you have to deal with pot lock, damage reflect maybe yes)
But definitely not a solo?
I'm surprised nobody else managed to down Empress before this.
So it's pretty much just spam attacks until <10 minutes?
Such a waste of time
Also, it still drops normally (if you kill it before 10 minutes)?
And does anybody know if she can rapidly heal?
And we still have to wait till 10 minutes...sad.
With say like 12 people dishing out 6billion per minute we can run through it in 10 minutes
But the heal until 10 minutes left is irritating and causes whatever dps you have to be wasted

[iiStevche]

Assuming 60billion hp in one hour
That's 1 Billion per minute
Is that really that much?
(Well when you have to deal with pot lock, damage reflect maybe yes)
But definitely not a solo?
I'm surprised nobody else managed to down Empress before this.
So it's pretty much just spam attacks until <10 minutes?
Such a waste of time
Also, it still drops normally (if you kill it before 10 minutes)?
And does anybody know if she can rapidly heal?
And we still have to wait till 10 minutes...sad.
With say like 12 people dishing out 6billion per minute we can run through it in 10 minutes
But the heal until 10 minutes left is irritating and causes whatever dps you have to be wasted

Pretty Much LOL ^ I know biggest waste of time. Only time will tell when we get the fix.

[Mazz]

The chain was only open for 1 week then got fixed the following SC. I even mentioned it in my own topic.

It's been around before that week and I'd feel pretty confident in saying it'll be back again shortly too.

[Marksman Bryan]

Congratulations! Impressive!

[Dark Link]

Pretty Much LOL ^ I know biggest waste of time. Only time will tell when we get the fix.

Considering the DB revamp came right after Justice. I estimate 2-3 months.

It's been around before that week and I'd feel pretty confident in saying it'll be back again shortly too.

Ah, my mistake. We discovered it the day the SC ended, so we figured that same SC removed the "immunity".

[ShinkuDragon]

congratulations on finally sharing it, more interested in what made you do so though?

shame we couldn't pull it off, after a certain someone ( @Proxied; ) came and spilled the beans, getting all the hackers to rush in there, me and the team lost any motivation

i must note this kill was BEFORE proxied's video btw.

[Carlos n,n]

Seems like a legit kill, but players with illegimate items. Meh like that even matters, OH NEXON<3

[Dark Link]

Seems like a legit kill, but players with illegimate items. Meh like that even matters, OH NEXON<3

What are you talking about? All of their items are totally legit and not hacked in any way, ask them yourself lulululul.

[ShinkuDragon]

this is the problem with not knowing the drama that goes in other worlds all that well <.< i'm out of the loop.

[Proxied]

congratulations on finally sharing it, more interested in what made you do so though?

shame we couldn't pull it off, after a certain someone ( @Proxied; ) came and spilled the beans, getting all the hackers to rush in there, me and the team lost any motivation

i must note this kill was BEFORE proxied's video btw.

I didn't know they all lurked on southperry. That's pretty interesting I guess (This was the only place I posted it)

In which case, I apologize.

[ShinkuDragon]

I didn't know they all lurked on southperry. That's pretty interesting I guess (This was the only place I posted it)

In which case, I apologize.

there was an 18+page thread on basil made by someone else, in which you posted a lot, and due to the accusation rule i don't think i can really say what was up there, but that's the video i meant, the one from months ago..

[Proxied]

there was an 18+page thread on basil made by someone else, in which you posted a lot, and due to the accusation rule i don't think i can really say what was up there, but that's the video i meant, the one from months ago..

I meant the 35 kill comment I made making hackers go to empress now. I didn't say that anywhere but here, and as for the video, it didn't show such information or anything like that.

[ShinkuDragon]

I meant the 35 kill comment I made making hackers go to empress now. I didn't say that anywhere but here, and as for the video, it didn't show such information or anything like that.

what i'm saying is this kill (and the measures for the kill, i.e. 35 kills, the last being after 10:00) and such had been determined before you had posted the first empress death video, after THAT video went up all the exped DC hackers and such took possession of the place. i was aware of the requirements back then too, but after that thing, the whole exped (me included) just said "ah, not worth it"

managed 30 kills with a 4-man party before your video, i am STILL pissed at that.