Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm

[Dark Link]

You obviously don't understand power creeping when you're complaining about the weakest class in the game getting buffed.

You obviously don't understand the meaning of "Resistance Reorganization" when BaM isn't the only class getting buffed.

Lol @ putting words in my mouth.
I never once complained about this "revamp".

[Kalemora]

If they do the same thing to Battle Mages that they did to Evans I'm going to be so pissed.

[JoeTang]

You obviously don't understand the meaning of "Resistance Reorganization" when BaM isn't the only class getting buffed.

Lol @ putting words in my mouth.
I never once complained about this "revamp".

MrTouchnGo is complaining, power creeping is a negative thing, you're agreeing with him. BaM is by far the weakest class in the game. Wild Hunters are significantly worse than other archers, and have one of the weakest multitarget capacities in the entire game. Mechanics suck.

[Dark Link]

Wild Hunters are significantly worse than other archers, and have one of the weakest multitarget capacities in the entire game.

Yes, their mobbing sucks, but they're better in 1v1 scenarios than BM and MM.

Mechanics suck.

So them being [potentially] the strongest bossers in the game means they suck? ok

[byakugan]

I can't help but think that all that freaking calculation about who is stronger than whom only helps boost Nexon thought that we need more of these revamps. Prolly if put in a time perspective, BaM is only a few seconds behind when killing the same monsters and with the same fundings as the classes on top.

Am I the only one that thought of

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from watching that gift?

[JoeTang]

Yes, their mobbing sucks, but they're better in 1v1 scenarios than BM and MM.

No they're not.

So them being [potentially] the strongest bossers in the game means they suck? ok

I don't understand why you would quantify it with [potentially] because they're lower than Phantom, Dual Blade, Mercedes, and Corsair, with worse utility, they have average at best single target %/s, terrible multitarget %/s, low base attack, low attack speed, and can only wield one weapon potential.

I can't help but think that all that freaking calculation about who is stronger than whom only helps boost Nexon thought that we need more of these revamps. Prolly if put in a time perspective, BaM is only a few seconds behind when killing the same monsters and with the same fundings as the classes on top.

BaMs have the slowest attack speed, range, and alpha strike of any magician, they would by far train the slowest unless they could have Reapers in every platform.

[Locked]

No they're not.

Bro.
Everyone is stronger than BMs. Come on now.

[Arrol]

I don't understand why you would quantify it with [potentially] because they're lower than Phantom, Dual Blade, Mercedes, and Corsair, with worse utility, they have average at best single target %/s, terrible multitarget %/s, low base attack, low attack speed, and can only wield one weapon potential.

Wow, even with all their summons hitting beyond cap and unlimted siege, they're still low tier?

[Kaasoljoyyx]

Wow, even with all their summons hitting beyond cap and unlimted siege, they're still low tier?

Tiers are meant on inherent skills and such, not 999999999999999999 range.

If it's JoeTang talking about DPS stuff, I would just trust what he says to be true.

[Takebacker]

If it's JoeTang talking about DPS stuff, I would just trust what he says to be true.

%/s? Of course. DPS? Not as much.

I still agree with him on this though. Mechs might not have the damage but they sure have the mobility outside tank (which is ridiculous, by the way) as well as above average party support.

[Locked]

%/s? Of course. DPS? Not as much.

I still agree with him on this though. Mechs might not have the damage but they sure have the mobility outside tank (which is ridiculous, by the way) as well as above average party support.

There is a very thin line between %/s, DPS and HPS.

[danielcatu]

sorry if this is kinda off topic but... what happened with maplestory 3ds?

[Takebacker]

There is a very thin line between %/s, DPS and HPS.

Arguable, but it's not like i would know.

And oh yeah, my bad on the aesthetics s'hit guise.

[Untradeable]

sorry if this is kinda off topic but... what happened with maplestory 3ds?

afaik it's still in development as of march. Its probably taking longer than expected, i mean you remember how long Maplestory DS took to make, and then it didnt even make it to the west. I was sad about this.

[JoeTang]

%/s? Of course. DPS? Not as much.

I still agree with him on this though. Mechs might not have the damage but they sure have the mobility outside tank (which is ridiculous, by the way) as well as above average party support.

Their DPS is lower than the classes I listed because they have lower base attack, lower buffs, lower (or equal vs Corsair) defense ignore, lower hits/s, and lower %/s.

Also, I never claimed they were low tier, just that they were not as strong as the classes I listed. Their actual hits per second for single target comes close to the listed classes, but that only applies under the assumption that everyone hits damage cap every time. As far as I know, they have the second lowest damage per hit end-game attack in the game (Captain's Dignity is the lowest?) which means they require one of the highest base ranges to reach damage cap.

[danielcatu]

afaik it's still in development as of march. Its probably taking longer than expected, i mean you remember how long Maplestory DS took to make, and then it didnt even make it to the west. I was sad about this.

oh right I totally forgot MSDS took literally YEARS

[Taarie]

Really, a gif to represent the in-game speed of a skill?, sorry but there's no way that can be accurate.

[Arrol]

Now that we have seen the revamp, can this thread be closed as it is no longer needed?

[donovan]

Is still in KMST it's possibly not over.