Just felt that the damage reflect timing for Empress Cygnus is kinda haphazard.
Its like its damage reflect timing is different when soloing, with a max party of 18 people.
Hope some of the regulars can enlighten on the timing for damage reflect.
Just felt that the damage reflect timing for Empress Cygnus is kinda haphazard.
Its like its damage reflect timing is different when soloing, with a max party of 18 people.
Hope some of the regulars can enlighten on the timing for damage reflect.
That's because it is.
When you attack her solo, she casts reflect as defined in the game files, roughly 80 seconds from the last cast, but when attacking as a group, she can pretty much reflect whenever the hell she feels like, sometimes spamming in rapid succession, with no rhyme or reason, making it impossible to time. We've chalked this up to just her being glitched.
Well, for attacking her, usually we just use Demon Slayer's Binding Darkness, and then cast Magic Crash after Bind is over and only attack while either of those skills is up. She's somewhat impossible to kill, but the running theory is that you have to just keep attacking until she stops healing, and she seems to do it about 60 times, which adds about 50b HP.
this. sometimes I would watch emp videos before going in, and she reflects whenever she wants to with no pattern at all
you just have to watch her animations, or else EVERYONE pays for it.
right now it seems to be best to wait until she IS fixed (Dual Blade revamp?). it's random if she will DR like a madwoman or rarely at all. our group watches her between bind/crash CD.
edit: okay sorry xd
Last edited by Pink Bean; 2012-05-26 at 04:58 PM.
I was getting hit by it on the entire opposite side of Henesys. I had around 9.4k HP at the time and I'm sure that wasn't the lowest there.
ah, I was just confused since one time I didn't get hit by it when my squad was
I think I had the most HP, and she was hit only a few times leaving me alone.
yea, in my runs, the death order is always this:
female demon slayer, male demon slayer, and i stay surviving.
one time we brought a washed mercedes with more HP than the DS's, while testing stuff empress used reflect, all three of them died due to hurricane, leaving me alone.
in the mass runs i go, bishops and thieves are the ones that always die first. it's 100% guaranteed to be based on remaining HP among the surviving members, and from what i got from hurricane (it was only one instance though) low-HP classes can't kill people with high HP (say the mercedes and me are in a party, the merc does 2 shots of hurricane, both get reflected, one would hit her, the other one would not get reflected)
If I'm reading that right, a non-attacking Bishop with the most HP in the party could just resurrect everybody and never die from DR?
In our runs, I always kill @MoldyBunny ;_;
I didn't realize Damage Reflect was such a big problem, but I guess everyone doesn't have Crash and/or Bind readily available.
But, you can try attacking her while she's doing other things, she can't cast damage reflect in the middle of using an attack, after all, but in a huge group, I'm not sure everyone would be able to do that without someone slipping up and hitting her during damage reflect. It's risky, but it works.
Was on a run when a DS used Bind on DR and everyone in the map died, but there was also a Mercedes so presumably she (I'm looking at you @MapleCookie;) was attacking at the same time, my bad.
Yep, that's pretty much what I'd been building my Bishop around. Hopefully I'll get an AP reset with Justice and will actually be able to make it happen xD
I guess that would make sense since I'm the first to die from DR when I bring a few people from my guild.
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