Overview of Nebulite Bonuses

[Shidoshi]

So... we could see Mercedes/Demon Slayers/Dual Blades running around with crazy amounts of boss % dmg?

Even more so than before.

[SaptaZapta]

that looks pretty cool, if you can hunt the nebulite you need instead of just cubing, HOWEVER...

Theoretically, you can also hunt items with potential, and even fuse them. Practically, though, you have to be quite lucky to even get 3% mainstat on the appropriate class equips.

i can see the best nebulites getting duped balls.

Well, maybe that will finally get Nexon to do something to prevent duping.
Can you imagine how much $$ they lose if the entire server has 6% mainstat on all gear, at the cost of one hacker cubing four nebulites?

[ShinkuDragon]

at best, 70% more boss damage for mercedes, DS and DB.

these 3 really should focus on maxing their PDR ignore from what i saw in the other thread lol.

and sapta, i can actually see it, o can completely see it in fact.

a bit sad that from my calcs %str will always be better damage than %min/max crit :X i wanted to make a bit of an oddjob.

[Shidoshi]

Theoretically, you can also hunt items with potential, and even fuse them. Practically, though, you have to be quite lucky to even get 3% mainstat on the appropriate class equips.

The difference here is that there are way too many different equips and they are generally hard to find to be practical to hunt (specially with monsters not dropping anything after 20 lvls of difference).
With Nebulites you only need to find one for each type of equipment, this already narrows the possibilities a lot.

I see what you mean though, and Nexon could make it so it's not at all practical to hunt them.

[Onion Knight]

If it weren't so laggy, -2 second cooldown would definitely have use for classes with tiny cooldown skills (I/Ls at least). A 3 second (advertised) cooldown on GC would be nice even if it did equate to a 5-6 second delay (compared to the 10 or so we have now).

Shame it goes into weapons only, so it will be discarded for %boss/ignore DEF.

[ShinkuDragon]

If it weren't so laggy, -2 second cooldown would definitely have use for classes with tiny cooldown skills (I/Ls at least). A 3 second (advertised) cooldown on GC would be nice even if it did equate to a 5-6 second delay (compared to the 10 or so we have now).

Shame it goes into weapons only, so it will be discarded for %boss/ignore DEF.

you can get this potential on hats too i think, 2 seconds on main line and one on secondary (legendary) i'd be pretty fun to be able to spam such a powerful move. (isn't this nebulite on helms btw?)

and i did say that i expect these things to have a terrible droprate earlier in the thread, they may look nifty and cool, but nexon's selling cubes for these things, they aren't going to fed us the better potentials without us feeding them some cash.

[SaptaZapta]

and sapta, i can actually see it, o can completely see it in fact.

Watch:

>Servers up Thursday afternoon.
>Friday, hackers and botters get acquainted with the new system.
>Starting Friday evening, christmas tree is blinking red and green.
>By Sunday night, everyone and their sister has optimal nebulites on all gear. Price per nebulite 50-100m tops.
>Tuesday noon, the system gets taken out "due to technical problems with it". Same as sidekick.
Either that or nebulites become untradeable.

[ShinkuDragon]

apart from the dates and the bullets 3 and 5, that's exactly how i see it, a bit more expensive though.

and from what i know (which is just rumors and hearsay) they don't really need to crash the server/channels to dupe, but then again, it's just rumours, and not knowing how they do it isn't gonna stop it from happening ~_~

but yea, apart from all the exploits this system is bound to have, the system itself does look quite nice, as somoene said, kind of like materia.

[Onion Knight]

you can get this potential on hats too i think, 2 seconds on main line and one on secondary (legendary) i'd be pretty fun to be able to spam such a powerful move. (isn't this nebulite on helms btw?)

Oh, so it is. The next row down is for an effect that is on weapons only, must have mixed them up. hurr

[ShinkuDragon]

from what i've seen of nebulites, they're nerfed down potential and accommodated on their respective equipment that gives the normal version.

so invincibility on tops, min/max crit dmg on gloves, crit/boss/ignore on weapons, etc.

the amounts of 20% drop buffs you can have though... i wouldn't mind drilling these into my PVP accesories o.O or some tradeable ones. (speaking of, wonder if you can do rings and such without slots, like BB rings and whatnot.)

[VerrKol]

these 3 really should focus on maxing their PDR ignore from what i saw in the other thread lol.

Can you refer me to that thread? This statement makes no sense whatsoever unless there are bosses with more than 100% def (lol) or there's a cap on %boss. Am I missing something about the way the two weapon potentials interact?

I'd also considered socketing badges, medals, and hell even my crusade codex. What about pet equips? The possibilities are interesting .

I somehow doubt those %drop stack although it could be worth testing. Especially if it improves the rate on Nebulizer drops

[Shidoshi]

I can see Nebulites only being usable on items that can have potential too. Or else it would be too great of an imbalance for some classes *cough*evans*cough*

[CrazyForDex]

Oh god. Going to either have to cube for dec bless or wait until its duped. Really not looking forward to this.

[ShinkuDragon]

Can you refer me to that thread? This statement makes no sense whatsoever unless there are bosses with more than 100% def (lol) or there's a cap on %boss. Am I missing something about the way the two weapon potentials interact?

I'd also considered socketing badges, medals, and hell even my crusade codex. What about pet equips? The possibilities are interesting .

I somehow doubt those %drop stack although it could be worth testing. Especially if it improves the rate on Nebulizer drops

here, simple explanation:
because stacking %boss on a boss with 100% PDR is as useless as stacking PDR ignore on a boss with 0 PDR, boss and ignore depend on each other to be more effective, when you start reaching insane amounts of boss damage (see: DB's and such) every point taken off ignore PDR is worth more.

same thing as attk vs str.

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=54434

pasted 2 charts in excel at the bottom, that show what happens when you increase PDR and boss, in 10% increments.

[Shidoshi]

Pretty much what Shinku said, a concrete example for better viewing:

Let's assume you are fighting a 75% def boss and you already have +70% boss damage from your weapons/skills.

Adding another 30% boss would only mean a 2.0/1.7 = 17.6% increase in your damage.
However, getting 15% def ignore would mean a (1-0.75*0.85)/(1-0.75) = 45% damage increase.

[Mazz]

*sigh* pretty much as I'd expected. Wonder how hard it'll be to get the item drop rate ones. I'm already at 30% drop rate on my mask and earrings.

[KhainiWest]

The big question is do these new equips essentially replace empress gear?

[Raph589]

I don't think I get it...The nebulite has a primary stat which can be a % stats and a potential which can be 2 lines. So... That makes it 3 lines of % stats, just like a regular equip? Incredibly broken.

[Thorr]

Did anyone else happen to notice that the description for the Decent Hyper Body nebulite says "Pants or OVERALLS"?

[CarrionCrow]

The big question is do these new equips essentially replace empress gear?

New equips? o_O