Crimson Balrogs spawn rate

[FoolsLove]

Crimson Balrog is level 100, and that guy is only level 50, pretty sure you need to be within 15 or so levels of a monster in order to get the card. You've got to be closer than 50 levels apart at least.

As far as I know that only applies if you're the one who kills it.

[Zenkat]

As far as I can remember it always used to be:

20% Chance of the ship + Balrogs spawning. (Could have been 30% instead)
70% Chance of no spawn at all. (And this would be 60% then if the above one was 30%)
10% Chance of spawning only the ship.

It will spawn only the ship when no one is outside to greet them. Dunno if that is still the case since most people arent scared of C.Balrog anymore. I used to ride the ship all the time in 2006-2007 fighting those things. They're so weak by todays standards that they really need to put them in their own map or have them spawn every ride.

[Thorr]

As far as I know that only applies if you're the one who kills it.

Crog is a boss so as long as someone within range kills it, the card will be available for anyone to pick up.

[FoolsLove]

Crog is a boss so as long as someone within range kills it, the card will be available for anyone to pick up.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at.

[Green4Ever]

Another reason I think it might not be there anymore is because crog isn't part of any sets even though it has its own card. If i'm not mistaken, it used to belong to a set.

I don't think it did belong to a set actually.

[Patt]

I'm not sure if it was pointed out, but it's possible he got that card with the pre big bang monster book. Many (if not all) cards from the old book were transferred to the new one when it was released.

[ShinkuDragon]

I'm not sure if it was pointed out, but it's possible he got that card with the pre big bang monster book. Many (if not all) cards from the old book were transferred to the new one when it was released.

i got mine post-BB, had to hunt for it, many here had to.

[Marksman Bryan]

Wow, didn't realize how much was wrong with that picture. Sorry guys. :x

[Green4Ever]

Seems I'm not the only one: http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/233...Silent_Crusade

[FoolsLove]

It saddens me when several of the people who first replied don't even know what a CRog is...

[Thorr]

I'm not sure if it was pointed out, but it's possible he got that card with the pre big bang monster book. Many (if not all) cards from the old book were transferred to the new one when it was released.

VERY VERY FEW of the cards transferred. My book was nearly complete before BB. The only ones of note I kept were Zak, Pianus, Pap, a couple of mushrooms and the MushKing. Out of the 400+ cards I had, only 10-15 actually transferred. CRog may have been one of them, though, since I bought that card from the NPC. I only bought it on one character, so I can't recall if it made it across.

[happylight]

o.O

I got my Crog card after the new monster book was released.

And then I saw them several times after. This wasn't really recent though. I haven't set foot on a boat since airplanes / free tele rock.

[Thorr]

o.O

I got my Crog card after the new monster book was released.

And then I saw them several times after. This wasn't really recent though. I haven't set foot on a boat since airplanes / free tele rock.

The problem started being a problem when Ascension hit.

Here is a thread from another board that I frequent that shows how far back the problem goes. (My replies in the thread are incorrect. I did not get a card that day from CRog, I got it from JRog.) So by the date of this thread, it's been at least a problem since early October. The concensus, though, is that it started when Ascension hit.

http://www.hidden-street.net/forum/t...Crimson-Balrog

[Liteness]

Crimson Balrog is level 100, and that guy is only level 50, pretty sure you need to be within 15 or so levels of a monster in order to get the card. You've got to be closer than 50 levels apart at least.

rog is a boss, boss card always drop

[CarrionCrow]

rog is a boss, boss card always drop

No, it is based on the level of the killer.

[Sarah]

It saddens me when several of the people who first replied don't even know what a CRog is...

Seriously. I remember that defeating Crimson Balrog was my inspiration to level for the longest time.

And on that path... my husband and I got wiped out dozens of times by Balrog Jr.

[yo72]

VERY VERY FEW of the cards transferred. My book was nearly complete before BB. The only ones of note I kept were Zak, Pianus, Pap, a couple of mushrooms and the MushKing. Out of the 400+ cards I had, only 10-15 actually transferred. CRog may have been one of them, though, since I bought that card from the NPC. I only bought it on one character, so I can't recall if it made it across.

If you had 400 cards you obviously would have had more then 15, cards transferred over if the background didnt change so most low lv mobs/nearly every boss stayed and of course the mobs that lv didnt change aqua road comes to mind

[FoolsLove]

rog is a boss, boss card always drop

This isn't true. Samurai's card doesn't always drop. I also want to say there's like one or two more bosses that don't always drop their cards too, but I can't say for sure.

Seriously. I remember that defeating Crimson Balrog was my inspiration to level for the longest time.

And on that path... my husband and I got wiped out dozens of times by Balrog Jr.

Same here.. I still remember the first time I killed a CRog.

[Retalion]

If you had 400 cards you obviously would have had more then 15, cards transferred over if the background didnt change so most low lv mobs/nearly every boss stayed and of course the mobs that lv didnt change aqua road comes to mind

Do you ever give any accurate information?

Aqua road monsters changed levels: Jr. Seal in previous monster book vs. Jr. Seal after monster book and Old Squid vs. new squid

Also, cards carrying over was not based on being the same color. I had collected all the boss cards from that event a few anniversaries ago on my sister's hermit, and most if not all of them did not carry over. For example, Faust, both of which were green, did not carry over. While not an avid collector, my sister definitely had her share of monster cards, especially the easy to find lower ones. Strangely, orange mushroom and green mushroom, cards that are easy to find did not carry over. However, for the purpose of this thread, the crimson balrog card DID carry over. I was pretty sure it did because I remembered thinking about the hassle of hunting the crog card in the new book, just to realize I had it already, but I checked on my sister's hermit just in case, and it was there.

Same here.. I still remember the first time I killed a CRog.

I remember mine too. It was when I hit 120, and managed to level up and die at the same time, because I could only survive crog because of HB. Good times, good times.

[Thorr]

If you had 400 cards you obviously would have had more then 15, cards transferred over if the background didnt change so most low lv mobs/nearly every boss stayed and of course the mobs that lv didnt change aqua road comes to mind

Nope, I had about 15 cards transfer MAYBE 20. Very few cards kept their IDs. I was one of the guys who spent TONS of Time and $$$ getting cards. I was VERY pissed that so few of them transferred, but was happy that I didn't have to get the Pianus card over again. MANY mobs that 'didn't change' still had their cards change. I think the only Aqua Road card that remained (besides Pianus) was Bone Fish.

But, once I saw how easy it was to get cards in the new book, I stopped being mad and got all my cards back on day 1.