Romney wins Iowa caucus by 8 votes

[WillDaSnail]

Did Rick Perry get plastic surgery to permanently plant a sickening smile on his douchebag face or something? And what's this speculation about Sarah bloody Palin entering late?

To answer your first question, I think he has that smile for God knows when.

To answer your second question, in American politics, presidential candidates sometimes announce their candidacy for president after the first or second presidential primaries simply because they feel like they have enough support and stuff to go for it. In the case of Sarah Palin, even if she "bowed out" months before, she might just pull a fast one later on and say "fk dis shiznit I'm in this race now. Come at me bro"

[Elven Emily]

Sarah Paling? If that peach ends up president, I am moving to Canada.

[Exidous]

- This caucus, if anything, reflects how every freaking vote counts. No matter if you're Republican, Democratic, an independent voter, or a voter affiliated with one of the minority political parties out there, it still shows that exercising your right to vote is incredibly important. Things could drastically change if more people had participated. In conclusion, the Iowa Republican caucus shows how every vote counts. Do your right as a citizen and go out to vote in your local, city, state, and federal elections. For those that say "f*** elections, why does it matter, my vote won't have an impact on anything", the 2012 Iowa Republican caucus is proof that every vote counts.

One thing is clear after last night's Iowa Republican caucuses: The goody-two-shoes platitude that "every vote counts" is bunk even in an election as close as this one. If you're an Iowan and you failed to vote, it just means that Mitt Romney outpolled Rick Santorum by eight votes rather than seven or nine--and if you preferred someone else, your failure to show up didn't even affect the margin of victory.

lol

[KhainiWest]

lol

...Wait what? He's saying because the margin was as high as 10 that votes don't count?

Remind me not take the political opinion of that "best of web"

[Loose]

Of course every vote counts. What would be the point of voting if it didn't?

[WillDaSnail]

lol

Um okay? Your point being? (And you're stating that opinion as a fact. -slow golf clap-)

[Exidous]

My point is the one I quoted: what you stated was a silly platitude, certainly not proof, given the margin of victory was >1 vote.

[KhainiWest]

My point is the one I quoted: what you stated was a silly platitude, certainly not proof, given the margin of victory was >1 vote.

...So you talk down to someone using a sh`itty article from an evidently sh`itty website. I'm sorry that I don't see their logic but every vote does count, and this proves it. 10 people make the difference, for every one person who believes in your article is quite a significant difference. Your vote is 10% input at that point, now if it were 100 difference yes your point would make more sense as it's only 1%.

Funny how proportions work.

Edit: If you undermined your responsibility as an american and forfeit that responsibility your political opinion is worthless, much like that lolarticle

[Onion Knight]

"every vote counts" != "your vote decides the winner"

[WillDaSnail]

My point is the one I quoted: what you stated was a silly platitude, certainly not proof, given the margin of victory was >1 vote.

Still not proving anything. No matter what how small of a margin the votes were in the contest, I still stand by my point that every vote counts in elections. You don't seem to get that, which is the case atm.

tl;dr - cool story bro, tell it again.

Edit: If you undermined your responsibility as an american and forfeit that responsibility your political opinion is worthless, much like that lolarticle

This.

[Exidous]

"every vote counts" != "your vote decides the winner"

How does it count if it has no impact on the outcome? A better statement would be "your vote is counted" != "your vote counts"

Still not proving anything. No matter what how small of a margin the votes were in the contest, I still stand by my point that every vote counts in elections. You don't seem to get that, which is the case atm.

You proved nothing, which is why your sentiment is being called a silly platitude instead of proof. You stand by your point without proof, okay. On the Internet, that's fine.

It makes you feel better that someone's vote was closer to mattering than usual. I get that. It still doesn't prove your vote counts.

Really, I just find it off putting when people make political threads, spew a bunch of opinions predictions and platitudes, then entreat everyone else to stick to the facts.

[KhainiWest]

How does it count if it has no impact on the outcome? A better statement would be "your vote is counted" != "your vote counts"

...Okay I'm not sure you realize how silly you sound, how are the votes counted? The number of votes made. Your vote becomes part of the statistic which creates # vs #. Obviously it counts when it's only off by 8 people, out of how many who voted?

You proved nothing, which is why your sentiment is being called a silly platitude instead of proof. You stand by your point without proof, okay. On the Internet, that's fine.

It makes you feel better that someone's vote was closer to mattering than usual. I get that. It still doesn't prove your vote counts.

Really, I just find it off putting when people make political threads, spew a bunch of opinions predictions and platitudes, then entreat everyone else to stick to the facts.

I'm pretty sure it's fact your vote is counted, unless they count pennies in substitute. Your opinion contradicts the reality, otherwise why should anyone vote if your vote doesn't matter? If it didn't matter it wouldn't be tallied, which it is, so it's you who has the proof problem.

[Kalovale]

My point is the one I quoted: what you stated was a silly platitude, certainly not proof, given the margin of victory was >1 vote.

Oh wow, to think I've been taking you half-seriously.

[Duelman]

I live in Iowa and I did not participate in the caucus this year even though I'm registered as a republican.

I can tell you this much though, I can think of at least 10 people right off the top of my head that also didn't participate in it.
Had they have voted along with me let's say for santorum, would you still be able to say every vote doesn't count?
Even though it would have quite literally changed the outcome of the caucus?

The only thing that sounds silly here is trying to convince a group of people that their votes wouldn't count.

If this was the bush versus gore election where the electoral votes outweighed the popular then yeah I would have to agree, but it's not the same.

[Coogi]

I live in Iowa and I did not participate in the caucus this year even though I'm registered as a republican.

I can tell you this much though, I can think of at least 10 people right off the top of my head that also didn't participate in it.
Had they have voted along with me let's say for santorum, would you still be able to say every vote doesn't count?
Even though it would have quite literally changed the outcome of the caucus?

The only thing that sounds silly here is trying to convince a group of people that their votes wouldn't count.

If this was the bush versus gore election where the electoral votes outweighed the popular then yeah I would have to agree, but it's not the same.

Did it seem odd how Santorum came out of no where? I was watching the news daily for months and Santorum would be lucky to even get his name said even once that entire day up until a maybe 2 before the caucus.

How is Ron Paul in Iowa?

[WillDaSnail]

Did it seem odd how Santorum came out of no where? I was watching the news daily for months and Santorum would be lucky to even get his name said even once that entire day up until a maybe 2 before the caucus.

How is Ron Paul in Iowa?

Well to be fair, during the months leading up to the Iowa caucuses, Republican presidential candidates were rising up and dropping like flies frequently as they jostle with each other to see which one of them will come out on top in the end.

[Duelman]

Yeah I agree it was just a pot of non mainstream candidates that were rotating in and out of the limelight and Santorum was just the luck of draw.

It annoys me to see someone say it doesn't matter whether or not you vote when it clearly does matter in a situation like this.