Rapid Fire is the strongest attack (330%) and is the same speed as hurricane.
So... Dual Blades are officially the new Buccs? Why do I always level weak jobs?
Buccs never had two separate weapons capable of weapon potential as well as the top/bottom combo.
People always forget to include the massive amount of weapon attack DBs have over the other thieves, as well as the second set of weapon potential of Kataras, as Takebacker said. With Legendary tier I will have at least 110% Boss damage on my DB. That will be kind of hard to beat on a NL or Shad with equal funding. I refuse to include disguisting pomegranate like 301 att Claws and any form of attack scrolled VSS in the comparision though. But, if your DB is poor and unfunded, yea it will be the pomegranatetiest thief.
Didn't bother to include Continual Aiming since it's variable when it will be dispelled, but basically a 1.2x to this damage if it can't be I believe, unless it's additive to Combo or Prayer.
Added what damage looks like when SE is added to the scenario.
Last edited by JoeTang; 2012-01-03 at 05:53 PM.
Added a Pickpocket + Meso Explosion table for Phantoms. It requires that they use their 4th job slot as Combo Attack, and two 3rd job slots as PP and ME. Thus, they would not be able to have Holy Symbol, or any other 3rd job skill, and would not be able to have any 4th job skill active.
What are the multipliers for Canes?
Pretty sure it's 1.3
Wow, thanks for doing the math! All that data, Yum.
What skills are you going to keep on hand for your Phantom? What is the feel of the new Shadower like? (If you do not mind me asking in your thread)
Muspelheim is pretty pomegranatety unless you OHKO with it.
I haven't played my Phantom in a while but I use Holy Symbol, Combo, Dispel, Rapid Fire, and Paralyze on my Phantom right now since he has Talent IV level 1. The problem with Meso Explosion and Pickpocket is you need to have the third 3rd job slot dedicated to Combo Attack to actually make it worthwhile, and that means you can't run Holy Symbol. If you're training, Meso Explosion and Pickpocket are fairly useless since mobs die so fast and move so much. If you're bossing, in theory, you should have a Bishop to Holy Symbol you. The only problem would be the availability to switch skills. 4th job should be Rapid Fire, and probably Sharp Eyes so if you're in a situation where you don't need Holy Symbol and aren't using Rapid Fire, you can run both Combo and Sharp Eyes.
Blade Master:SpoilerAdjusted Mastery:SpoilerBloody Storm + Blade Fury:SpoilerAdjusted Mastery:Spoiler
Things to keep in mind are Blade Masters have two weapons that can have weapon potential on them, i.e. a pomegranateton more boss damage than other Thieves. Pretty comparable to the other Thieves, disregarding the fact that Assassinate does a billion DPS that gets capped at 4m per attack. I'll need to remember to fix that as it is rather misleading to say 0% Defense Shadower does 9000%/s when without Assassinate it's only half that, i.e. the same as the other two Thieves.
I also don't know why Shadowers and Night Lords don't have an adjusted mastery table, but I'll add it tomorrow.
I think the 100+ att shield and extra boss damage puts us higher than shadowers now
Thanks for the calculations Joe.
Shadower:
MuspelheimEdge CarnivalWith Sharp Eyes
Night Lord:SpoilerWith Sharp Eyes
Blade Master:SpoilerWith Sharp Eyes
Had a typo in Blade Master's adjusted mastery value. Added a Sharp Eyes table and a No Assassinate table.
Blade Master is still in KMST and is subject to change, so the OP will not reflect any of these changes until they reach the live servers.
Also, for pomegranates and giggles, here's the new Chains of Hell
Blade Master:Spoiler
So with the Rapid Fire + Twilight + Pickpocket + Meso Explosion in addition with the assist of Sharp Eyes and Adjusted Mastery, will this combo outdps Ishtar Ring on Single target hit? I also realized that Ishtar Ring has a higher % damage compared to the Ultimate drive % damage, is it just me or that Ultimate drive attacking speed isn't as fast as Ishtar Ring's? Thank you for showing me this thread joe, but this is A LOT of complicated information you put up, at the mean time im trying to figure out the Adjusted Mastery and weapon speed mechanics you have on here also.
P.s. is it ideal to have the fastest speed 2 weapon as a phantom as well?
Phantom:Rapid Fire/TwilightTwilight + Pickpocket + Meso Explosion
Ultimate DriveUltimate Drive + Pickpocket + Meso Explosion
With SE
Just did a retest for Ultimate Drive's speed. Previously, it was assumed to be the listed speed of 360ms and Boosterable, but is now found to be constant 180ms.
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