[KMST] [1.2.398] Minar's Past

[Teppi]

Ok,can someone explain to me how you know that if the Goddess of time wakes up bad stuff will happen?.

if they follow the story, it would make the most sense for nexon to develop a bunch of story with the black mage, having him win at the end, then the goddess of time wakes up...and maplestory closes.......then comes MAPLE STORY 2!

[skullowls]

if they follow the story, it would make the most sense for nexon to develop a bunch of story with the black mage, having him win at the end, then the goddess of time wakes up...and maplestory closes.......then comes MAPLE STORY 2!

Exactly what i had in mind .-.

[Viaje]

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Makes almost no sense to me though. So the Goddess, floating frozen on her throne, with no mirror behind her, mind you, and Akyrum has had enough time to do some renovations as well.

I present this next statement to the masses with pure, wholehearted passion: wtp?


So...what the hell happened to our timeline's Goddess?

The mirror can be moved... I don't see how it not being there would be an issue...
The Goddess can likely be moved as well.

As for the renovations, the promo videos for Mercedes and DSlayer clearly show that the Black Mage has made the Temple of Time his main base. The darker look shouldn't surprise you.

I don't know what you mean to ask about "our timeline's Goddess".
For all we know, there's no reason to think this past isn't our past.

if they follow the story, it would make the most sense for nexon to develop a bunch of story with the black mage, having him win at the end, then the goddess of time wakes up...and maplestory closes.......then comes MAPLE STORY 2!

Except that wouldn't necessarily make sense. Nothing in canon (at least not in the English translation) indicates that the Goddess waking up would be the end of the world.

Just to remind everyone of the old maplestory storyline... perhaps we can add onto what we already know:

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=215&page=1

? major props to IsaacGS for putting the old story together.

I don't think most of that can be trusted anymore.

IsaacGS did a hell of a job, but he did it before GMS even had Pirates.
The release of every new class has brought new story lines, and many of those stories straight-out contradict much of what's in there.

[Teppi]

Except that wouldn't necessarily make sense. Nothing in canon (at least not in the English translation) indicates that the Goddess waking up would be the end of the world.

to my understanding everything of the maple world right now is just a longgggggggg dream of the goddess of time. logically, it'd make sense if the maple world disappear if she wakes up since she doesnt dream about it anymore

[Viaje]

to my understanding everything of the maple world right now is just a longgggggggg dream of the goddess of time. logically, it'd make sense if the maple world disappear if she wakes up since she doesnt dream about it anymore

To your understanding based on what people have said that has no real grounding in the actual in-game text.
So, yes, it would be logical that the world would disappear if she wakes up... if it was indeed a fact that the Maple World is the product of her dream.

Of course, the fact that the Goddess now appears, sleeping, in the game is a rather large blow to that theory, at least in my mind.
Tell me, when's the last time you had a dream in which you were asleep?

[Blades4hire]

I will be doing all of ToT quests as well as pink bean preqs tomorrow, so I could get some SS's of the quest dialogs to clear this whole goddess thing up.

[Blunderr]

The mirror can be moved... I don't see how it not being there would be an issue...
The Goddess can likely be moved as well.

As for the renovations, the promo videos for Mercedes and DSlayer clearly show that the Black Mage has made the Temple of Time his main base. The darker look shouldn't surprise you.

I don't know what you mean to ask about "our timeline's Goddess".
For all we know, there's no reason to think this past isn't our past.

I meant the mirror thing as more of an implied question of WHY isn't it still there. But either way, with further examination, I think it's still there, just hidden behind the massive slab of ice.

Forgot about the whole Black Mage's base thing for a second...

My last sentence of my previous post was asking what exactly the Goddess is doing sitting on her throne during the brink of an apocalypse, but is nowhere to be found in the present? What event made her come down in the past/go away in the present?

[DeanNim]

To your understanding based on what people have said that has no real grounding in the actual in-game text.
So, yes, it would be logical that the world would disappear if she wakes up... if it was indeed a fact that the Maple World is the product of her dream.

Of course, the fact that the Goddess now appears, sleeping, in the game is a rather large blow to that theory, at least in my mind.
Tell me, when's the last time you had a dream in which you were asleep?

stop being stubborn Viaje

I did all of my ToT quests before BB and yes, we are her dream. Whatever is going on is just a dream.

[Viaje]

stop being stubborn Viaje

I did all of my ToT quests before BB and yes, we are her dream. Whatever is going on is just a dream.

I'm not being stubborn; I'm being accurate.

Now, unless you have a specific ToT quest that you can source as saying the entire world is a dream, you need to shut up.
I have full extractions of all NPC text and all text quest, and not such a thing is said.
Believe me, I've looked pretty damn hard.

Go make your faces elsewhere.

I meant the mirror thing as more of an implied question of WHY isn't it still there. But either way, with further examination, I think it's still there, just hidden behind the massive slab of ice.

Forgot about the whole Black Mage's base thing for a second...

My last sentence of my previous post was asking what exactly the Goddess is doing sitting on her throne during the brink of an apocalypse, but is nowhere to be found in the present? What event made her come down in the past/go away in the present?

Don't you mean "why it isn't there yet"?
It is hard to tell whether it's behind the ice though, as you said.

We'll have to wait to hear more about the Goddess.
I mean, she could have been hidden away deep within the Temple after this incident.
Or she was hidden before, captured, and moved to her throne for some sort of ceremony.
I don't know Korean or have access to KMS, so I have no idea what exactly is going on in Past Minar, unfortunately.

[TheCompleteEnd]

I'm not being stubborn; I'm being accurate.

Now, unless you have a specific ToT quest that you can source as saying the entire world is a dream, you need to shut up.
I have full extractions of all NPC text and all text quest, and not such a thing is said.
Believe me, I've looked pretty damn hard.

Go make your faces elsewhere.

Again, unnecessarily contentious. :P
However, I remember a text saying that the maple world may perhaps be a dream, but otherwise, I don't recall an npc distinctly saying it definitely is a dream.

[0^2]

Again, unnecessarily contentious. :P
However, I remember a text saying that the maple world may perhaps be a dream, but otherwise, I don't recall an npc distinctly saying it definitely is a dream.

Yes the Temple Keeper himself said something like that although I don't recall when he says that.

[Viaje]

Again, unnecessarily contentious. :P
However, I remember a text saying that the maple world may perhaps be a dream, but otherwise, I don't recall an npc distinctly saying it definitely is a dream.

I don't recall you being elevated to a position to make that call.

And, no, no NPC says that the world may be a dream.
The only section of Maplestory described as such is Future Ereve/Henesys, and that's explicitly stated.

Yes the Temple Keeper himself said something like that although I don't recall when he says that.

Dig through the .wz files and find it then.