Mercedes SP Build.

[JoeTang]

Ah thanks I was wondering about whether my cooldown skills would be messed up because I would have to DCO each time to get the proper Cooldown Unicorn spike has a cooldown too but its short so that is why I assume you included that one

no idea why this turned into an argument when I just asked for suggestions on what to lower but they decided to suggest not to lower insistently
Not what I was looking for but I accepted that they believe gust dive was not useful to them in their training but it is not them playing my character and I like having the extra mobility so I had no idea why they would even try to convince me when it makes no difference to them

I'm sorry my question sparked an argument.

Blame Danny and his hate for Gust Drive.

[dShop]

Just so you all know, Leap Tornado, and Gust Drive should both be on their own macro keys. If you macro Leap Tornado, you can double cast it in a single jump, and execute it immediately after Rolling Moonsault. If you're really good, you can use it immediately after an Acrobatic Jump and travel just as fast across the map while attacking. You can also use Leap Tornado after using Stylish Move up a rope, but you can also press the macro while you're climbing and the second you get to the top, you'll Leap Tornado without jumping. There are some maps with ramps that you can spam Leap Tornado on without needing to jump. I recall an area at Blue Dragon Turtles on the right, on the thorned branch, and in El Nath at the Yeti/Lycanthrope maps I was able to do it on the bridges.
Gust Drive is important to be used immediately after this Leap Tornado or after Rolling Moonsault to maintain 100% invincibility frames. I don't know if it's just me but I can't use Charge Drive after Gust Drive if I have it on a macro. It won't autoexecute after landing, and I can't spam the key to activate it either.

Ok here's a few question regarding your macro'ing tactic, and hope you can help me a out a little here pal. So yea as you said I need to macro the skill Leap Tornado and Gust Drive, how exactly do you mean to macro them? Do you put the skill Leap Tornado twice in the macro button? Like Leap Tornado, Leap Tornado as a macro? Or you have to fill them 3 up with all Leap Tornado in one macro? Thats the confusing part. And also what about the Gust Drive macro, how exactly do i need to lay it out? Can you explain or take a SS of your Macro window so I know what to put exactly to use these skills efficiently. Thanks!

Yes, it requires Booster.



After Gust Drive, you have to spam Charge Drive for it to activate correctly and it doesn't allow me to do this with a macro hotkey for some reason. Otherwise, you get a huge delay if you try and don't activate Charge Drive correctly. You can push the Gust Drive macro immediately after jumping, and it will activate when you reach the required height, but macros tend not to work if you're pushing any other button at the same time, so try not to hold down the arrow keys while you're jumping, or if you are, spam the pomegranate out of the Gust Drive macro.
After Rolling Moonsault/Leap Tornado, if you hold down left or right, and spam Gust Drive's macro, you can change directions in midair.
Gust Drive also links into Lightning Edge, and Lightning Edge links into Charge Drive, and they should execute faster because of this. I haven't researched how much delay is cut out though, but I'm looking into it. I didn't actually know this until a few minutes ago and I'll try it out on KMS to see if it's anything special.

So after the rolling moonsault and leap tornado combo, is it still possible to activate the gust drive macro? Do we have that much air time to perform all those? And also how did the Gust Drive>Lightning Edge> Charge Drive links work out for you? I hope you can share all your knowledge so far with me so I can enjoy my mercedes at her best :)

[Kaasoljoyyx]

LT + LT is the macro that should be used. You'll never get the 3rd LT off in normal situations.

I wouldn't worry about gust dive macros because it sucks. Seriously, just use rush to move stuff.

[dShop]

yea but i still want to find out how ot works for JoeTang and hopefully he can show me a SS of his Macro lay out

[JoeTang]

Ok here's a few question regarding your macro'ing tactic, and hope you can help me a out a little here pal. So yea as you said I need to macro the skill Leap Tornado and Gust Drive, how exactly do you mean to macro them? Do you put the skill Leap Tornado twice in the macro button? Like Leap Tornado, Leap Tornado as a macro? Or you have to fill them 3 up with all Leap Tornado in one macro? Thats the confusing part. And also what about the Gust Drive macro, how exactly do i need to lay it out? Can you explain or take a SS of your Macro window so I know what to put exactly to use these skills efficiently. Thanks!

You put Leap Tornado on a single slot on its own macro and the same for Gust Drive. Jump into the air and press Leap Tornado a few times while you're going up and it should activate twice. Having it on a macro guarantees it will activate when you reach the required height, and since it pushes you upwards, it gives you enough height to still be high enough to use it again. The second time it doesn't push you upwards though. If you press it once while you're rising, and then press Gust Drive's macro in the middle of Leap Tornado, you should use Gust Drive immediately after Leap Tornado ends.

So after the rolling moonsault and leap tornado combo, is it still possible to activate the gust drive macro? Do we have that much air time to perform all those? And also how did the Gust Drive>Lightning Edge> Charge Drive links work out for you? I hope you can share all your knowledge so far with me so I can enjoy my mercedes at her best :)

While you're doing Rolling Moonsault, press the Leap Tornado macro once and you should perform it once you're done Rolling Moonsault. While you're doing Leap Tornado, you can push (spam) the Gust Drive macro to perform it afterwards. If you time it wrong, it may not work, but it's fairly easy to perform. You can change directions with Gust Drive here as well.

Gust Drive links to Lightning Edge, and Lightning Edge links to Charge Drive, but it's not particularly useful unless you're only traveling across a distance and either don't care that monsters you're going through die or not, or you can guarantee they die after the Lightning Edge since Lightning Edge does not rush targets. It still provides 100% invincibility though, and is marginally faster. Nothing significant.

[dShop]

Hmm thanks for the explanation. Do you mind taking a SS of your macro key settings though JoeTang?

[JoeTang]

Hmm thanks for the explanation. Do you mind taking a SS of your macro key settings though JoeTang?

I already described exactly what my macro looks like.

[dShop]

I already described exactly what my macro looks like.

Ok so it will be like this, for the leap tornado macro it will look like:

leap tornado, leap tornado, blank

and for the gust drive, it will be like:

gust drive, gust drive, blank

Like that? If thats right then i got it , thanks.

[DarkXDaisuke]

Well now that they fixed gust dive i have not been missing any mobs other than the ones my elemental knight hits, too bad I cant get anymore sp resets to do the modified decent combat orders build, unless i buy the ones in cs... But once theybgive out full resets I am totally modifying my build to max all my skills.

[Zato1One]

Why in the Pineapple would you Max Charge Drive and not Cross Piercing in the second job?! Charge drive ruins the purpose of archers, which is to shoot things until they die!

And don't give me that "Mobility" junk. It was a good argument for the Brawler, but not for the Flash Jumping Mercedes.

[Justin]

Tell me, which move do you use more in 4th job: Charge Drive, or cross piercing? There's your answer. Cross Piercing is worthless the second you hit 3rd job. There's no reason to max it, ever.

Also, way to bump a thread that hasn't been posted on in over 9 months.

[Takebacker]

Also way to actually type out pineapple instead of pineapple lol

[Chilly]

Why in the Pineapple would you Max Charge Drive and not Cross Piercing in the second job?! Charge drive ruins the purpose of archers, which is to shoot things until they die!

And don't give me that "Mobility" junk. It was a good argument for the Brawler, but not for the Flash Jumping Mercedes.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to get ninja'd by the two others currently reading this thread but...

You will never use Cross Piercing past 2nd Job. I may even argue that if you do use it during 2nd Job for any extended period of time, you may be training at the wrong place. But I won't go that far since I don't know what type of funding people have or play style they enjoy. With its non-homing, linear attacking it is far outclassed by Strike Dualshot immediately.

[JoeTang]

Why in the Pineapple would you Max Charge Drive and not Cross Piercing in the second job?! Charge drive ruins the purpose of archers, which is to shoot things until they die!

And don't give me that "Mobility" junk. It was a good argument for the Brawler, but not for the Flash Jumping Mercedes.

@Locked, look at the bravery on this one.

[Locked]

@Locked, look at the bravery on this one.

I rate this a 4.5 on the Sagan-O-Meter.

[TimtheAzure]

Is there a modified skill build for post tempest?

I would assume the skills still have the same priority, so it'll just end up being different levels that you max the skills.

[Endgame]

Pretty much.