Why is this troll science wrong?

[66alex66]

It's possible, just that it will all cost you much more than if you actually bought the platinum.

@Lyrics: I lol'ed. You don't travel to the future by freezing yourself; it's just that your perception is "frozen" along with you when you are placed in cryogenic sleep, so it will feel as though you traveled to the future by freezing yourself. A simple way to figure this out is to...surprise, surprise - go to sleep. It produces the same effect.

And yes, I like taking things seriously. So there.

You still age while you sleep, while frozen you don't. FUTURAMA DUH!

[Random_Overlord]

You know what I dont get?

Why not somehow use hydrogen and somehow use fission to bind both gold and hydrogen together to create platinum? Sure you might have to have a huge whackload of hydrogen and superheated gold and enough electro-magnitism to fuse both elements, but it may be possible.

I mean, when you look at the sun, it absorbs hydrogen, and conducts nuclear fission to create helium and even iron from the hydrogen it absorbs.

Why is this any different?

Hydrogen also has only 1 proton and 1 electron, the difference isnt too significant, but if you somehow conduct fission with both gold and hydrogen you could perhaps make platinum.

[Corn]

You know how effing hot the sun is?

[Hanabira.Kage]

You know what I dont get?

Why not somehow use hydrogen and somehow use fission to bind both gold and hydrogen together to create platinum? Sure you might have to have a huge whackload of hydrogen and superheated gold and enough electro-magnitism to fuse both elements, but it may be possible.

I mean, when you look at the sun, it absorbs hydrogen, and conducts nuclear fission to create helium and even iron from the hydrogen it absorbs.

Why is this any different?

Hydrogen also has only 1 proton and 1 electron, the difference isnt too significant, but if you somehow conduct fission with both gold and hydrogen you could perhaps make platinum.

The reaction would be highly exothermic, with an obscene energy barrier.

i.e. It would take too much energy to actually start off the reaction, and the reaction will produce extreme amounts of heat that will literally melt the Earth.

The only reason why stars can actually start burning is the extremely high pressure as well as the high temperature within the star when it is "born".

[Worthyness]

You know what I dont get?

Why not somehow use hydrogen and somehow use fission to bind both gold and hydrogen together to create platinum? Sure you might have to have a huge whackload of hydrogen and superheated gold and enough electro-magnitism to fuse both elements, but it may be possible.

I mean, when you look at the sun, it absorbs hydrogen, and conducts nuclear fission to create helium and even iron from the hydrogen it absorbs.

Why is this any different?

Hydrogen also has only 1 proton and 1 electron, the difference isnt too significant, but if you somehow conduct fission with both gold and hydrogen you could perhaps make platinum.

We haven't found a way to fuse atoms together yet without it requiring TONS of energy. It REALLY isn't as simple as 1+1 = 2. The Sun is able to do this because of the sheer amount of pressure in the core and gravity (28 times the Earth's gravity?) as well as an ungodly impossible to achieve (at least on earth) amount of heat ( at least a million KELVIN). These conditions force the atoms together to fuse and that's how we get sunlight and UV radiations. These conditions cannot be replicated on Earth (yet?) and if we could do so, it would take a crap ton of energy to sustain it all. If you found a way to do this without consuming the energy grid of the entire planet, you would be a multi billionaire.

Also Iron is about as close as you get using our sun's fusion capabilities. In order to go to a scale of gold fusion, you would need the conditions of an exploding super nova, which are far more extreme than a normal sun.

Source: Astronomy class in college C:

[Shidoshi]

Ridiculous reactions usually require ridiculous conditions. The main problem with a fusion reactor is containing a mini sun at 3000ºC+ inside something.

[octopusprime]

You know what I dont get?

Why not somehow use hydrogen and somehow use fission to bind both gold and hydrogen together to create platinum? Sure you might have to have a huge whackload of hydrogen and superheated gold and enough electro-magnitism to fuse both elements, but it may be possible.

I mean, when you look at the sun, it absorbs hydrogen, and conducts nuclear fission to create helium and even iron from the hydrogen it absorbs.

Why is this any different?

Hydrogen also has only 1 proton and 1 electron, the difference isnt too significant, but if you somehow conduct fission with both gold and hydrogen you could perhaps make platinum.

Simple answer: we lack the technology and it might just lead to uncontrolled fusion or even fission. or in a little less laymans term possible ceilingless critical fission reactor. we'd better be doing that pomegranate in space.

Complex answer: see above.

[2147483647]

amount of heat ( at least a million KELVIN).

Heat is measured in Joules. Kelvin is a measure of temperature.

Source: Astronomy class in college C:

Lol.

Sure you might have to have a huge whackload of hydrogen and superheated gold and enough electro-magnitism to fuse both elements, but it may be possible.

LOL.

I mean, when you look at the sun, it absorbs hydrogen, and conducts nuclear fission to create helium and even iron from the hydrogen it absorbs.

LOLOLOLOLOL!

[Hanabira.Kage]

Heat is measured in Joules. Kelvin is a measure of temperature.



Lol.



LOL.



LOLOLOLOLOL!

Why do you even bother? From what I've seen so far, R_O rarely ever makes sense.

[Random_Overlord]

Heat is measured in Joules. Kelvin is a measure of temperature.



Lol.



LOL.



LOLOLOLOLOL!

I acutaly meant fusion, sorry.

But anyway, as it is said, the sun absorbs hydrogen into it's core and conducts fusion to form helium atoms, but during it's lifetime a star can produce iron atoms but nothing higher than that. If a star were to go super nova however, it would produce heavier atomic elements.


This proves you can conduct fusion to create elements. If you were to control a fusion of hydrogen and gold, you could perhaps make Platinum.

[2147483647]

But anyway, as it is said, the sun absorbs hydrogen into it's core and conducts fusion to form helium atoms, but during it's lifetime a star can produce iron atoms but nothing higher than that. If a star were to go super nova however, it would produce heavier atomic elements.

I really don't understand where you get your information. I hope you don't make them up for the sake of having something to post.

Synthesis of the Elements in Stars (large pdf file!)
B2FH paper (Wikipedia) (summary of above paper)
Stellar nucleosynthesis (Wikipedia)
S-process (Wikipedia)

This proves you can conduct fusion to create elements.

A single example by itself is only the first step to proof by induction.

If you were to control a fusion of hydrogen and gold, you could perhaps make Platinum.

If you have really proven that the process exists, there's no need to doubt!

Keep ing. This nonsense is highly entertaining.

[Random_Overlord]

I really don't understand where you get your information. I hope you don't make them up for the sake of having something to post.

Synthesis of the Elements in Stars (large pdf file!)
B2FH paper (Wikipedia) (summary of above paper)
Stellar nucleosynthesis (Wikipedia)
S-process (Wikipedia)



A single example by itself is only the first step to proof by induction.



If you have really proven that the process exists, there's no need to doubt!

Keep ing. This nonsense is highly entertaining.

Dude they teach you this shiet in grade 6 ffs, unless you wanna flamebait all day, just stfu and actualy contribute to something.

[2147483647]

Dude they teach you this shiet in grade 6 ffs, unless you wanna flamebait all day, just stfu and actualy contribute to something.

My fifth grade history curriculum also included the "fact" that most people in Columbus' day thought the world is flat. I later found out that this is complete bs. If your education stopped at 6th grade, at least bother to look things up to validate your statements before you post for the sake of posting. Lol.

Keep ing, btw. :)

[Random_Overlord]

My fifth grade history curriculum also included the "fact" that most people in Columbus' day thought the world is flat. I later found out that this is complete bs. If your education stopped at 6th grade, at least bother to look things up to validate your statements before you post for the sake of posting. Lol.

Keep ing, btw. :)

What you said has nothing to do with anything about this topic.

[Hanabira.Kage]

Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that R_O got banned from this thread?

Well, good riddance. Now we can have an intelligent discussion about...troll...science...okay, that seems more like oxymoron than anything...

[hadriel]

Infarction would have been more proper. Whatever.

Many people dream, but they forget that the process [which they know naught about] is not going to be that simple/simplistic. It's easier to dream than to make dreams come true.

Hadriel

[C0SA]

Let's suppose you could remove a proton from gold which is like, almost impossible, then you remove the electron easily... It will attract another electron and another proton from anywhere because it needs to be in equilibrium... And this is supposing you only remove 1 electron and 1 proton from 1 single atom of gold (good luck with that)... You would actually need to do it with Kgs of gold, which will be... impossible. /:

[octopusprime]

Let's suppose you could remove a proton from gold which is like, almost impossible, then you remove the electron easily... It will attract another electron and another proton from anywhere because it needs to be in equilibrium... And this is supposing you only remove 1 electron and 1 proton from 1 single atom of gold (good luck with that)... You would actually need to do it with Kgs of gold, which will be... impossible. /:

You do realize we can control the contents of a given space in a vaccum down to subatomic particles right? Like that isn't the hard part here.

[C0SA]

Yep... and what's the problem?

[MagicsBISH]

Its possible, just to expensive!