Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure)

[CrazyForDex]

Has anyone ever thought Tobi could be in fact Senju Hashirama?

You mean that guy (aka 1st Hokage) that Orochimaru resurrected to kill the 3rd Hokage who was then sealed in that Dead Demon Seal with the 3rd Hokage?

Oh right, Tobi is clearly that guy.

[kingdj333]

Does anyone know what happened to Jugo and the Suigetsu guy?

[byakugan]

You mean that guy (aka 1st Hokage) that Orochimaru resurrected to kill the 3rd Hokage who was then sealed in that Dead Demon Seal with the 3rd Hokage?

Oh right, Tobi is clearly that guy.

I'm not gonna argue about this, but you shouldn't speak as if there is no way they could pull a plot twist to get around that, which is the only fact preventing it from being possible. This is anime/Manga after all.

Does anyone know what happened to Jugo and the Suigetsu guy?

They go to Sasuke and this one uses them as training dummies, burning them along the scroll. /end.

[CrazyForDex]

Does anyone know what happened to Jugo and the Suigetsu guy?

What do you mean? They are chilling harcore-like with super-awesome-amazing info probably on their way to find Sasuke.

I'm not gonna argue about this, but you shouldn't speak as if there is no way they could pull a plot twist to get around that only fact. This is anime/Manga after all.

Dude judging by what we know (which is that once someone has been sealed, they cannot be summoned by Edo Tensi) I highly doubt Kishi is going to make the 1st Hokage the main villain. Now if you want to start questioning things we are supposed to assume are facts, then by all means continue on making up theories. Also, since you seem to like this theory, I'm interested in what Hashirama's motive is to join the super Uchiha-villan to strive for world domination, please do tell.

[Corn]

I'm going to laugh so hard if what byakugan is saying is true.

[kingdj333]

You both just lost me!!! They weren't captured by the samurais at the summit thing when they got caught hiding inside the body guard outfits? Or did they get away?

[CrazyForDex]

You both just lost me!!! They weren't captured by the samurais at the summit thing when they got caught hiding inside the body guard outfits? Or did they get away?

Uh... are you up to date with the manga?

Edit:

I'm assuming they pulled some shenanigans and got away in all the commotion since I can't remember for sure how they escaped.

I'm going to laugh so hard if what byakugan is saying is true.

In the words of Fiel when discussing the black mage, if the 1st Hokage is Tobi, I'll eat my shirt.

[byakugan]

Also, since you seem to like this theory, I'm interested in what Hashirama's motive is to join the super Uchiha-villan to strive for world domination, please do tell.

"The ninja world has been driven by hatred so long, staining it's soil with the blood of all it's inhabitants, heading to an eventual chaos and it oughts to be saved"

Come on, that wasn't even hard. And yes, I'd love to see this theory happen because just like Corn, it'd be such a twist that everyone would sh'it bricks. I'm gonna stop arguing about this seeing how there's just no evidence at all other than "it fits".

[Lozmaster]

The more Sasuke turns into a Psycho, the more I like him as there's less and less chance that he turns back to the good side.. He doesn't deserve it.

Ironically, this is the one time he's actually apparently being honourable...even if it is a sick twisted honour, in that he seems to be planning to keep his promise to naruto to kill him first, before attacking Konoha.

The second guess makes more sense though, seeing how those suckass would think if Sasuke got the Rinnegan, he would be invencible.

Invincible? Nah. If he wants even the slightest chance of fighting naruto when he isn't worn down, given that Naruto just beat down 5 tailed beasts at once, Id go as far to say that he needs a Rinnegan in order to not be pummelled in seconds.

Guys, I just had a wild thought while writing this. Has anyone ever thought Tobi could be in fact Senju Hashirama? Tsunade said he was practially immortal, besides, that would explain all his knowledge about the history of the ninja world, his access to Hashirama cells to create Zetsu, why he'd say he posesses 2 of the 6 paths of pain in his body, why Madara seems to have planned all of this along with tobi and a whole bunch more of stuff. Maybe the soul sealed by the 3rd during his fight with Orochimaru wasn't his?

Tobi already explained where he supposedly got the Shodai cells from http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v54/c512/9.html Of course, that doesn't seem to be entirely true if he isn't Madara...but still

[CrazyForDex]

"The ninja world has been driven by hatred so long, staining it's soil with the blood of all it's inhabitants, heading to an eventual chaos and it oughts to be saved"

Come on, that wasn't even hard. And yes, I'd love to see this theory happen because just like Corn, it'd be such a twist that everyone would sh'it bricks. I'm gonna stop arguing about this seeing how there's just no evidence at all other than "it fits".

Well I was hoping you would give some reasoning other than exactly what Tobi gave as his reason for this war, but ok. Also, I consider this more of a discussion than an argument, but to each his/her own.

I agree with Lozmaster. If Naruto was at full strength, I think he could beat Sasuke. Should be interesting when he runs into Itachi.

[Corn]

Itachi at full strength should also beat Sasuke.

Sasuke sux.

[yoosergio]

Great chapter.
This could be the first foreshadowing to what will happen after the war. The manga continues for another 10 years, the anime goes on to 100 more episodes of filler then ends, and a third series, Naruto Yakitori, is released.

[CrazyForDex]

Itachi at full strength should also beat Sasuke.

Sasuke sux.

Nah I wouldn't go that far. Itachi is pretty dam strong, but Sasuke has an intense amount of hatred, plus now he also has Itachi's eyes, so he is pretty unstoppable against most enemies. Although since Itachi can regenerate, maybe he would win the fight O_o... ugh too many possibilities.

[CommanderJinn]

It depends if Sasuke also has a sealing ability with his Susanoo. So far, the only thing his Susanoo can do is multi target amaterasu.

[CrazyForDex]

It depends if Sasuke also has a sealing ability with his Susanoo. So far, the only thing his Susanoo can do is multi target amaterasu.

I doubt it unless he somehow got Itachi's Sword of Totsuka.

[Twiz]

Did anyone else notice what Karin was doing while the two guards were talking about her? Would hate it if she somehow used those tools to escape and heal Sasuke before Naruto or Itachi were about to kill/defeat him.

[byakugan]

Did anyone else notice what Karin was doing while the two guards were talking about her? Would hate it if she somehow used those tools to escape and heal Sasuke before Naruto or Itachi were about to kill/defeat him.

She is obviously going to escape, but I doubt she will help Sasuke, she might be off for revenge and might save Juugo and Suigetsu from Sasuke.

Well I was hoping you would give some reasoning other than exactly what Tobi gave as his reason for this war, but ok. Also, I consider this more of a discussion than an argument, but to each his/her own.

I meant a discussion as well. I thought the word argument could mean both a discussion or a conflict, but I was using it as in discussion. Anyway, I didn't want to continue discussing about it because it's just making up theories based on nothing more than it being possible, at least for me.

But let me add something, that same argument that motivates Tobi to do all he does could also hint he used to be a good guy. Whenever he brings up his reasons, a kind of gloomy/sad aura surround his words, as if coming from someone that once had hopes, but lost them due to bad experiences, like Nagato and Sasuke while he wasn't a psycho.

[KhainiWest]

New chapter

Interesting the trump card was a fusion of the strongest ninja in history. Well I can see how this is going to turn out, sasuke talks to itachi, changes teams, goes to help the hokage's with the scroll his team found. He defeats madara, Tobi gets pissed, ends up being madara's brother or some direct descendent of the six paths, probably related to danzo. Danzo's twin perhaps? That be interesting. Point is the whole sasuke/naruto thing is probably good as dead now.

[CrazyForDex]

Either the translations suck on mangareader or I didn't read carefully enough, but I was kind of confused with this chapter. Pretty cool that Itachi and Sasuke are going to meet up again.

[Lozmaster]

I'm thinking more like Sasukes going to actively try and kill itachi... again.

There's no way that we won't get a second serious Naruto VS Sasuke fight before the manga ends, but you can pretty much guarentee it's going to be the last fight, just like it was before the jump to shippuden.