Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread

[Phoenix Wright]

Better to release her underpowered rather than overpowered...

*memories of Release Xin Zhao start flooding in*

[Malthe]

Better to release her underpowered rather than overpowered...

*memories of Release Xin Zhao start flooding in*

Xin zhao's nothing compared to the pre-nerf udyr.
Udyr with malady pre nerf was almost enough to get him to 2.5 attack speed at level 18.
Udyr got hotfixed tho, he'd towerdive you 1v2 and get you both and survive. Yep. And he'd 1v5 your team too.
But pre nerf xin was crazy too tho.



Few comments from the board on pre nerf udyr:

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Turtle Stance shield was stronger and the mana/health gain on hit was much higher than current numbers, I think it was something like 12/14/16/18/20%. Made him tough to take down in the lane and in the jungle, zero mana problems and soloed dragon at 3. Phoenix Stance's numbers were bigger as well.

The thing that really broke Udyr was that his Monkey's Agility gave multiplicative speed instead of additive. It also gave 15% attack speed per stack instead of 10%. What this meant was...

Lv1 old Udyr at 3 stacks: .967 attack speed
Lv1 current Udyr at 3 stacks: .867 attack speed
Lv18 old Udyr at 3 stacks: 1.625 attack speed
Lv18 current Udyr at 3 stacks: 1.321 attack speed
Lv18 old Udyr with 3 stacks and any 40% attack speed item: 2.012
Lv18 current Udyr with 3 stacks and any 40% attack speed item: 1.587

Udyr was able to maximize his attack speed with very few items (most would get Malady because it would put him at around 2.2 by itself) and then focus the rest of his gold on hitting hard. I saw a few who played with a full aspd runepage, hitting at almost 1.4 attack speed right out of the gate at Lv1.

Attack speed is normally not that great of a stat, but simply having that much of it that early on in the game, and the innate life/mana steal of Turtle Stance allowed him to snowball completely out of control before anyone else has a chance to stop him.

You probably won't find any videos because it was only about 18 hours before Riot saw the massive QQ on the forums and fixed it.

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you solo'd mid, stayed in turtle form and farmed while ignoring your lane opponent. if they overextended, you harassed/killed them.

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I wasn't around, but I heard he pulled pentakills harder than Pre-nerfed Xin and Brolaf combined.

Tho udyr was fixed after 18 hours or so, haha.

[WillDaSnail]

This is what i've tried to tell you to do for what 2 pages?

Hey, give a newbie some time to test it out.

[KajitiSouls]

Hey, give a newbie some time to test it out.

Seeing how you kept on getting Warmogs, I have no faith in that statement whatsoever.


Also @ >pineapple, Cait's ult isn't supposed to crit.

[WillDaSnail]

Seeing how you kept on getting Warmogs, I have no faith in that statement whatsoever.

Needed a bit of handicap when I started playing Rammus.

I'm seroiusly considering switching to a Sunfire Cape in place of Warmog since I'm getting much better with Rammus (and not afraid of dying due to lack of HP ). I do need to do a trial-and-error game to see how this will works out. Though its very highly likely I will switch to Sunfire the next time I play a LoL round.

If all goes well, the build might look like this:

Mercury Threads ---> Randouins Omen ---> Sunfire Cape ----> Banshee Veil ----> FoN -----> Guardian Angel (or if necessary, a high HP/MP item like Rod of Ages)

[Duelman]

Never get warmogs, it's the worst costing most least efficient item for your gold in the game.

[Five Second Pose]

Never get warmogs, it's the worst costing most least efficient item for your gold in the game.

Warmog's is hilarious on carries when you know you're going to lose, though.

[Duelman]

Warmog's is hilarious on carries when you know you're going to lose, though.

aye walking bag of hp to steal ;)

[Five Second Pose]

aye walking bag of hp to steal ;)

People usually don't pick up on it until it's too late. LOL

[WillDaSnail]

aye walking bag of hp to steal ;)

LOL

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Oh wait...

[>Pineapple]

Sigh so many fail mundos.

All the mundos I see are out there stacking hp items like warmogs (visage is the only one you should be getting).

So all he does is walk around and live everything doing minimal damage (his poke with cleaver is all he really has if you build him like that).

Why does no one build him properly? He's a godmode dps....

Dorans shield> Merc treads/ Serker greaves> Spirit Visage> Triforce> Phantom Dancer> Yomuu's> Defensive item/ Another PD

[WillDaSnail]

Sigh so many fail mundos.

All the mundos I see are out there stacking hp items like warmogs (visage is the only one you should be getting).

So all he does is walk around and live everything doing minimal damage (his poke with cleaver is all he really has if you build him like that).

Why does no one build him properly? He's a godmode dps....

Dorans shield> Merc treads/ Serker greaves> Spirit Visage> Triforce> Phantom Dancer> Yomuu's> Defensive item/ Another PD

Madreds is your friend, sir.

[>Pineapple]

Madreds is your friend, sir.

As mundo or against mundo?

If it's the former I'm sorry but no.

[KajitiSouls]

Madreds is your friend, sir.

...what?

[Malthe]

I kinda wish LoL had items like lothar from DotA, for example kata can use ulti and then lothar so you can't stop her without seeing her.
Would change the gameplay a lot.

[WillDaSnail]

...what?

Never mind.

[madanthony]

This was a very enjoyable game:

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I'm sold on tanky Gragas.

[Kevin645]

I getting tempted to play again. But then again Dota is always more fun with Blink Dagger and targeted skills.

[WillDaSnail]

Tested out my new build, and it worked beautifully.

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Items: Mercury Threads, Randouins Omen, Sunfire Cape, Negatron Cape (if I had a bit more time, I wouldve evolved it to a FoN or Banshee Veil, but the other team surrendered early, lol)

The Sunfire Cape effect pairs perfectly with my Molten Rammus skin, aesthetics-wise. Though for this game, I've been rampaging more into enemies than assisting my teammates, lulz. The only reason why I had a bit of advantage this game was because the other team didn't have a tank.

[Five Second Pose]

I've been sucking a lot of plantain lately. I've been carried by other people too many times, now my elo's all out of whack and I end up being that crappy player on a premade to balance out elos. x.o