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    Please post screenshots of KMSers or KMSTers at various levels so that we can have a 1 - 200 EXP chart.

    No screenshot means it's not used. If you have something to submit, please use a screenshot and not a personal reference!

    Gogogo.

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    Someone on EF has a formula. There's also a Table of 1-58 floating around somewhere. Sec, lemme find them.

    Edit1:
    Table

    http://ellinforest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7455

    Edit2:
    http://ellinforest.com/forum/showpos...63&postcount=4

    http://ellinforest.com/forum/showpos...30&postcount=9



    Does it have to be a SS of the mouse over the Exp Bar showing "3/34", or can it be an image that clearly shows the current Exp and a percent that can be divided to get a total, accurate to a few digits?


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    Just enough numbers to calc it out. I'd be happy with +- 5.

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    This is what I have so far:

    Level 14-29: 96.74*1.2^level
    Level 34-38: 96.74*1.2^(level-5)
    Level 39-69: 3478.127*1.08^(level-5)

    All truncated, but like only three exp values are off by just 1 exp.

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    Level 139: 27,780,000 exp tnl
    http://i31.tinypic.com/2yyte2q.jpg
    Since I'm just working back from the percent listed, here's an outside range:
    27,714,327 ~ 27,848,212

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    Edit: Found all the formulas up to level 159. They're a tiny, tiny bit away from exact, just off by 1 experience for a few levels for some reason. Tweaking the constant to fit that level creates problems elsewhere.

    Level 1-9: Same as gMS
    Level 9-14: 1242
    Level 14-29: 96.74*1.2^level
    Level 29-34: 19136
    Level 34-38: 96.74*1.2^(level-5)
    Level 39-69: 3478.127*1.08^(level-5)
    Level 69-74: 479143
    Level 74-119: 8847.55*1.07^(level-15)
    Level 119-123: 10063195
    Level 123-159: 8847.55*1.07^(level-20)
    Level 160-199: something*1.06^(level-20)
    That unknown constant for 160-199 is floating somewhere around 32635.All I'd need to figure it out is for any 160+ kMS player to tell me exactly how much exp is needed to level.

    Screenshots used to derive the formulas:

    Spoiler


    New exp chart, with 160-199 constant estimated at 32635:
    Level 1 - 15
    Level 2 - 34
    Level 3 - 57
    Level 4 - 92
    Level 5 - 135
    Level 6 - 372
    Level 7 - 560
    Level 8 - 840
    Level 9 - 1242
    Level 10 - 1242
    Level 11 - 1242
    Level 12 - 1242
    Level 13 - 1242
    Level 14 - 1242
    Level 15 - 1490
    Level 16 - 1788
    Level 17 - 2146
    Level 18 - 2575
    Level 19 - 3090
    Level 20 - 3708
    Level 21 - 4450
    Level 22 - 5340
    Level 23 - 6408
    Level 24 - 7690
    Level 25 - 9228
    Level 26 - 11074
    Level 27 - 13289
    Level 28 - 15947
    Level 29 - 19136
    Level 30 - 19136
    Level 31 - 19136
    Level 32 - 19136
    Level 33 - 19136
    Level 34 - 19136
    Level 35 - 22963
    Level 36 - 27556
    Level 37 - 33067
    Level 38 - 39681
    Level 39 - 47616
    Level 40 - 51425
    Level 41 - 55539
    Level 42 - 59982
    Level 43 - 64781
    Level 44 - 69963
    Level 45 - 75560
    Level 46 - 81605
    Level 47 - 88133
    Level 48 - 95184
    Level 49 - 102799
    Level 50 - 111023
    Level 51 - 119905
    Level 52 - 129497
    Level 53 - 139857
    Level 54 - 151046
    Level 55 - 163129
    Level 56 - 176180
    Level 57 - 190274
    Level 58 - 205496
    Level 59 - 221936
    Level 60 - 239691
    Level 61 - 258866
    Level 62 - 279575
    Level 63 - 301941
    Level 64 - 326097
    Level 65 - 352184
    Level 66 - 380359
    Level 67 - 410788
    Level 68 - 443651
    Level 69 - 479143
    Level 70 - 479143
    Level 71 - 479143
    Level 72 - 479143
    Level 73 - 479143
    Level 74 - 479143
    Level 75 - 512683
    Level 76 - 548571
    Level 77 - 586971
    Level 78 - 628059
    Level 79 - 672024
    Level 80 - 719065
    Level 81 - 769400
    Level 82 - 823258
    Level 83 - 880886
    Level 84 - 942548
    Level 85 - 1008526
    Level 86 - 1079123
    Level 87 - 1154662
    Level 88 - 1235488
    Level 89 - 1321972
    Level 90 - 1414511
    Level 91 - 1513526
    Level 92 - 1619473
    Level 93 - 1732836
    Level 94 - 1854135
    Level 95 - 1983924
    Level 96 - 2122799
    Level 97 - 2271395
    Level 98 - 2430393
    Level 99 - 2600520
    Level 100 - 2782557
    Level 101 - 2977336
    Level 102 - 3185749
    Level 103 - 3408752
    Level 104 - 3647365
    Level 105 - 3902680
    Level 106 - 4175868
    Level 107 - 4468179
    Level 108 - 4780951
    Level 109 - 5115618
    Level 110 - 5473711
    Level 111 - 5856871
    Level 112 - 6266852
    Level 113 - 6705531
    Level 114 - 7174919
    Level 115 - 7677163
    Level 116 - 8214565
    Level 117 - 8789584
    Level 118 - 9404855
    Level 119 - 10063195
    Level 120 - 10063195
    Level 121 - 10063195
    Level 122 - 10063195
    Level 123 - 10063195
    Level 124 - 10063195
    Level 125 - 10767619
    Level 126 - 11521352
    Level 127 - 12327847
    Level 128 - 13190796
    Level 129 - 14114152
    Level 130 - 15102142
    Level 131 - 16159292
    Level 132 - 17290443
    Level 133 - 18500774
    Level 134 - 19795828
    Level 135 - 21181536
    Level 136 - 22664244
    Level 137 - 24250741
    Level 138 - 25948292
    Level 139 - 27764673
    Level 140 - 29708200
    Level 141 - 31787774
    Level 142 - 34012918
    Level 143 - 36393823
    Level 144 - 38941390
    Level 145 - 41667288
    Level 146 - 44583998
    Level 147 - 47704878
    Level 148 - 51044219
    Level 149 - 54617315
    Level 150 - 58440527
    Level 151 - 62531364
    Level 152 - 66908559
    Level 153 - 71592158
    Level 154 - 76603609
    Level 155 - 81965862
    Level 156 - 87703472
    Level 157 - 93842715
    Level 158 - 100411706
    Level 159 - 107440525
    Level 160 - 113895024
    Level 161 - 120728726
    Level 162 - 127972450
    Level 163 - 135650797
    Level 164 - 143789844
    Level 165 - 152417235
    Level 166 - 161562269
    Level 167 - 171256005
    Level 168 - 181531366
    Level 169 - 192423248
    Level 170 - 203968643
    Level 171 - 216206761
    Level 172 - 229179167
    Level 173 - 242929917
    Level 174 - 257505712
    Level 175 - 272956055
    Level 176 - 289333418
    Level 177 - 306693423
    Level 178 - 325095029
    Level 179 - 344600730
    Level 180 - 365276774
    Level 181 - 387193381
    Level 182 - 410424983
    Level 183 - 435050483
    Level 184 - 461153512
    Level 185 - 488822722
    Level 186 - 518152086
    Level 187 - 549241211
    Level 188 - 582195683
    Level 189 - 617127424
    Level 190 - 654155070
    Level 191 - 693404374
    Level 192 - 735008637
    Level 193 - 779109155
    Level 194 - 825855704
    Level 195 - 875407047
    Level 196 - 927931469
    Level 197 - 983607358
    Level 198 - 1042623799
    Level 199 - 1105181227
    Last edited by Cyanne; 2010-07-09 at 11:25 AM.

  7. Electron
    IGN: OrochimaruDB
    Server: Scania
    Level: 1xx
    Job: Dual Blade
    Guild: Scandalous
    Alliance: None
    canada

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    damn that's sweet...guess I'll be able to try a lot more classes.

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    Hm, the curve is quite a bit steeper now. First and second job will be a joke, third job will be about three-four times as fast as it is right now, and fourth job starts out about three times as fast but drops off to just under twice as fast at level 199. This is based off the original exp tables - GMS was already reduced by a factor of 1.25 and I don't see them applying that again to the new tables, at least not initially, so the change won't be as drastic here.

    This is all assuming that people will be killing at about the same speed. Exp rates should actually be quite a bit lower for unfunded people who can't take full advantage of potential gear. Exp rates will probably be slightly higher than current for funded people, so funding becomes more important in terms of training speed than it is right now. New players should still be able to level much faster than they do right now and get to a decent level, but they won't be able to experience the full impact of the new curve.

    For fourth job training, I'm using exp rates for non-mage classes as the current "standard." So something like 7-12m exp/hr at O4 depending on killing speed seems reasonable, not the 15-20m/hr x 4 that you guys with access to rich Bishop training partners and stuff are used to. Being able to solo a level in a bit under 10 hours on 2x at 164 sounds totally reasonable to me, and I'm looking forward to it.

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    Yeah, the exp to next level curve gets extremely steep due to the formula becoming an exponential function instead of having level be the base of the exponent in the old formula. Here's a comparison between the exp it takes to level post-BB and currently in gMS, with 160-199 values probably being off by a tiny bit, like a few hundred thousand:

    Spoiler


    Overall decrease: 37.58%
    1st job decrease: 68.76%
    2nd job decrease: 75.42%
    3rd job decrease: 63.11%
    4th job decrease: 37.21%

    Looks like with the removal of party 2x exp, it seems like it'd actually be even HARDER to level up now in 4th job, assuming the changes in monster hp/exp is consistent with the massive damage upgrades in regards to exp rate. Also, more trivia: post-big bang, the exp it takes to do 199 -> 200 is higher than the exp it takes to do 1 -> 153.

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    Harder...assuming you're constantly training on 2x rep. I'm on 1x most of the time, this is great :|

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    But then we also need to reconsider damage and training places before we can come up with training speeds.

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    I'm too cheap to afford 2x/4x EXP as well, yay me.

    Regardless of damage, 2hit would likely be optimal killing speed for training before running-for-champion. From the looks of it though, everyone needs to have their ranges tripled at around 4th job to train efficiently.


  13. Orbital Bee Cannon
    IGN: GatlingPunch
    Server: Bellocan
    Level: 200
    Job: Gear 2nd Pirate
    Guild: Virtues
    Alliance: NARs

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    1.2, or 20%. Don't remember where, but it was referenced by Arroz to be 1.2 only.

  14. Venus Fly Gay Male
    IGN: CalmSonata
    Server: YMardiaCK
    Level: 200
    Job: Phantom
    Guild: Kinetic/Ceremonials
    Alliance: Southperu
    Farm: GagaVille
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    Yes, it's only 1.2x now (which is the same as a 20% bonus).

  15. Proton

    IGN: BuddyAran
    Server: Cassopeia
    Level: 115
    Job: Aran (13/02/11)
    Guild: Not telling
    Alliance: Not telling also
    malaysia

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    Fiel, I think this thread might help you. Try view at the last few posts...
    http://www.ellinforest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18

    Here are some things where we can roughly calculate from the image?
    EXP to level up = EXP (displayed in image) / ((percentage +0.04/-0.05)*100)

    This is due to round up to 2nd decimal places in percentage. Example : If the percentage from the image displayed 0.03% it means between 0.025% to 0.034%

  16. Won't Be Coming Back

    IGN: Palacious
    Server: Kradia
    Job: White Knight
    usa

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    Wouldn't it be easier since there are a lot more high level training locations now? I've seen videos/images of people training el nath quite well - the spawn stayed the same, but the EXP went up.

    In any case, I think that training overall will become easier, and not just because of the lowered EXP req's, but because of all the new training spots available. People don't have to huddle at time temple or skeles to train. Finally a change of scenery!

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    ...what training locations? I don't see anything comparable to O4 except O2/O3; in other words, Oblivion will still be crowded as hell. We'll get some of the 13xs and 14xs pushed out of Oblivion, but now that you can't spam ultimates, Skeles popularity is going to take a hit and Oblivion will be even more crowded.

    Nobody's going to train at El Nath when they can train at Oblivion. Zombies give less exp than Newties.

  18. Orbital Bee Cannon
    IGN: GatlingPunch
    Server: Bellocan
    Level: 200
    Job: Gear 2nd Pirate
    Guild: Virtues
    Alliance: NARs

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    Except Oblivion is deep deep down. We can only hope due to higher monster levels and due to lazy Maplers that Oblivion stays safe post Big Bang. There are way more 13x to 15x than there are 16x+ and thanks to accuracy being level based means even being several levels below will greatly annoy players when they see over half their hits miss.

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    Oblivion 5 is feasible post-revamp also. Lyka has what, 4.1m HP now? Can be finished off in less than a minute with all the damage boosts. Hardly affects EXP gain at all any more.

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