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  1. Default is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    Test 100% PDR vs Snail hit 600k dmg

    Test 100% PDR vs Cygnus Knight at StrongHold hit 540k dmg

    Test 120% PDR vs Snail hit 610k dmg

    Test 120% PDR vs Cygnus Knight at StrongHold hit 560k dmg


    ???? ???? ????

    Test 150% PDR vs Snail hit 625k dmg f6

    Test 150% PDR vs Cygnus KNight at StrongHOld hit 590k dmg wtp is going on

  2. Default Re: is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    MASTERY IS SO AMAZING.

    No seriously what are you asking? 100% Ignore PDR has been working fine for a long ass time.

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    isnt 100% pdr is 100% and any more than 100% u wont hit more dmg?
    but why do u hit more when u get more than 100% ??

    maybe does it have to do with nexon chaos pb with 180% pdr?

    maybe the 200% pdr is the new 100% pdr who know?

  4. Default Re: is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    Because mastery exists. Because criticals exist.

    Could post some numbers.. you know.

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    Default Re: is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    in the meantime while he does that, i have a question, any idea how the defense up skill works? i have a fairly big amount of ignore (90%), but every time CHT used def up, my crit damage went from 670-700k to 580ish k

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    I believe its like meso guard and similar skills. A % reduction that cant be ignored.

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    8810105.skill2?

    Cuts damage to 85%.

  8. Donator Straight Male
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    ok, perfect thanks.

  9. Default Re: is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    You can crash the defense up skill, but they can still rebuff it during crash...

    And uhh... I think Empress has tons more wdef/mdef than a snail.

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    he's attacking a knight* but his numbers have no proof or anything on which locked or i would be able to base any calculations

  11. Default Re: is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    They still have more WDEF/MDEF than a snail...

    Unless of course he's using Sacrifice.

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    Default Re: is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    that's his issue, he has 100% ignore, which is the same sacrifice has, albeit using a different method.

    it shouldn't matter, as long as i have 100% ignore, my impale should hit the same in a snail as it should in castle

  13. Default Re: is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    There are some skills that ignore WDEF.

    IIRC Shadower's (old) Assaulter ignored all WDEF on a target. The same is with Sacrifice + it completely ignores PDR as well.

    That small difference in damage could just be from the mob's WDEF reducing his damage... unless he's using Sacrifice.

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    Default Re: is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    You aren't making any sense at all.

  15. Default Re: is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    Are you confusing WDEF ignore and PDR ignore?

  16. Default Re: is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    There is no such thing as WDEF ignore.

  17. Default Re: is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    That's mind boggling.

    EDIT: further reasoning below...

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    Well derp. I was just going with what Sephie was saying.

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    Default Re: is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    explain? wdef doesn't exist anymore, all monsters have is %def, of which %ignore ignores a part of, if you have 100% PDRignore, that would mean you ignore 100% of the monster's defense, thus dealing all your damage.

    this would mean that no matter what you attacked, your damage wouldn't change

    defense got scrapped for %def at bigbang*

  20. Default Re: is 100% PDR really is 100%?


    WDEF still exists on monsters @_@.

    Snail has 10 WDEF; Empress has 1,700 WDEF.

    And IIRC, PDR didn't exist preBB. Sacrifice back then ignored all defense.


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