Nice meme, 500 coins is not possible without PC Bang and I doubt any version will get that besides TMS.
But who knows, the main point would be;
300 coins per day is also neigh impossible for 99.9% of the population.
For clarity sake I can get only to floor 52 and clear it within 25 seconds, now I have high range and I hit over 200m inside but I am a foreign lumi, I know some broken ass classes like aran with less funding than me could get up to floor 70~80 (before they made it FAR more difficult) so it is class dependent.
I get 6 symbols per day.
your typical character would get like what? 2? 3? after 2x ends+harder seriously just buy drop rate gear everybody and don't count on this piece of pomegranate content.
And they also made the pineappleing PQ far harder.
I am still salty over it.
:f3:
what's the mechanics of the PQ / what's the rewards system like
Wow, i saw a Blaze Wizard using her teleport to go to stage 300, she was mobbing the mobs to the corner out of the box, he got 33 symbols, he can have 99 in one day...
Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S9Z_JPn6IM
2017-01-27, 01:46 AM
TheBlackMage
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Counting on those videos is a horrible idea LOL.
You'd need to be mega funded and it's no longer possible to do that.
Basically you'd get too many points above 100+ (300 points) and you could abuse those skills on the tactics board, now it's no longer possible and it wouldn't work even if you still got 300 points per stage clear due to the changes.
Because of those scum bags they made the PQ WAY harder.
2017-01-27, 02:24 AM
holycow
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlackMage
Counting on those videos is a horrible idea LOL.
You'd need to be mega funded and it's no longer possible to do that.
Basically you'd get too many points above 100+ (300 points) and you could abuse those skills on the tactics board, now it's no longer possible and it wouldn't work even if you still got 300 points per stage clear due to the changes.
Because of those scum bags they made the PQ WAY harder.
Quote:
Originally Posted by holycow
:f3:
what's the mechanics of the PQ / what's the rewards system like
teach us s-s-senpai
2017-01-27, 02:28 AM
TheBlackMage
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Quote:
Originally Posted by holycow
teach us s-s-senpai
Just kill purple gramophones asap and try going up I guess.
Do so 3 times, that's really all.
Talk to the top 5 runners in town to get daily 27~35 coins from them combined.
Wait for reset.
Don't even try doing what that FW did, protecting all 3 areas that are yellow and leaving 2 purple as that longer works, It used to be so easy sigh.
2017-01-27, 07:47 AM
Ivangold
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlackMage
Just kill purple gramophones asap and try going up I guess.
Do so 3 times, that's really all.
Talk to the top 5 runners in town to get daily 27~35 coins from them combined.
Wait for reset.
Don't even try doing what that FW did, protecting all 3 areas that are yellow and leaving 2 purple as that longer works, It used to be so easy sigh.
We can expect the twice the dificulty for the Arcana symbol quest or whatever level it up.:f7:, i wonder if there will be one it will be better than others or like the others.
2017-01-27, 09:44 AM
Shion
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
We could get the easy version first. Its GMS anyways.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlackMage
Counting on those videos is a horrible idea LOL.
You'd need to be mega funded and it's no longer possible to do that.
Basically you'd get too many points above 100+ (300 points) and you could abuse those skills on the tactics board, now it's no longer possible and it wouldn't work even if you still got 300 points per stage clear due to the changes.
Because of those scum bags they made the PQ WAY harder.
Whats the difference though? I mean In case we get that thing before 2nd beyond patch I wouldnt mind getting as many coins as I could if its gonna be horrible later on. How do you get those points to spam?
2017-01-28, 06:50 AM
TheBlackMage
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shion
We could get the easy version first. Its GMS anyways.
Whats the difference though? I mean In case we get that thing before 2nd beyond patch I wouldnt mind getting as many coins as I could if its gonna be horrible later on. How do you get those points to spam?
I think there's a misconception here, getting to F500+ had no benefit as the 500 coin limit is hard capped, nexon threw a fit about it because people could just skip PC bang (PC bang = 2 extra entries) by going to F200+, let's say you got to F999 you'd only get 500 coins from that run, it's probably gonna be 300 as there is no pc bang in GMS but who knows.
In theory if you could get to F250 in one run during the event it would be the be best option.
2 weeks of 2x coins does jack pomegranate overall, especially for those who can afford drop rate gear, which is why it doesn't even matter.
If you can get to floor 100/50 during 2x (300 coins per day) you already won (300 coins max for non pc bang users which is what nexon intended butlol, who knows what will GMS do but you get the point).
You abuse it by going to floor 100+ then every run is like 400 points towards the board (4000 is(was) the limit, 3000 now) iirc and you can(could) abuse certain skills, I don't remember what skills were used anymore but that FW video showcases it quite well.
Sure even 5 symbols per day is better than nothing or hunting mobs for hours but it's still trash and nexon should feel bad.
The funny thing is some godly funded monsters can get to F200 even nowadays.
2017-01-28, 04:10 PM
Ivangold
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlackMage
I think there's a misconception here, getting to F500+ had no benefit as the 500 coin limit is hard capped, nexon threw a fit about it because people could just skip PC bang (PC bang = 2 extra entries) by going to F200+, let's say you got to F999 you'd only get 500 coins from that run, it's probably gonna be 300 as there is no pc bang in GMS but who knows.
In theory if you could get to F250 in one run during the event it would be the be best option.
2 weeks of 2x coins does jack pomegranate overall, especially for those who can afford drop rate gear, which is why it doesn't even matter.
If you can get to floor 100/50 during 2x (300 coins per day) you already won (300 coins max for non pc bang users which is what nexon intended butlol, who knows what will GMS do but you get the point).
You abuse it by going to floor 100+ then every run is like 400 points towards the board (4000 is(was) the limit, 3000 now) iirc and you can(could) abuse certain skills, I don't remember what skills were used anymore but that FW video showcases it quite well.
Sure even 5 symbols per day is better than nothing or hunting mobs for hours but it's still trash and nexon should feel bad.
The funny thing is some godly funded monsters can get to F200 even nowadays.
Really weird for me, i expected to each reagion that you go, it's faster to level up the symbol, i expected maybe 20 symbols a day of lachenl....maybe they expect for you to train hours in lachenl so you get symbols?:f6:
2017-01-28, 07:43 PM
byakugan
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Why are you guys in such a rush to level your symbols anyway?
2017-01-28, 09:26 PM
Ivangold
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Quote:
Originally Posted by byakugan
Why are you guys in such a rush to level your symbols anyway?
Most people tend to rush the contents of the game, specially after seeying the pros with max stuff, i see my friends desperately to farm nodestones and frutrated when they don't drop much(some of em have good drop rate), even tought the content is something for months and months to even years of upgrade.
The only weird/frustrating thing is how they let the strong people who can buy nx enjoy more this content than others, unlike chu chu PQ that at least people have a real chance of doing hard mode PQ and getting more symbols(doing normal everyday will get you to close to 200arcane force in less than 3 weeks i guess), vanishing road give 8 and seens that most people can't even get half in this new PQ.
2017-01-29, 01:52 AM
holycow
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Quote:
Originally Posted by byakugan
Why are you guys in such a rush to level your symbols anyway?
Because it becomes a chore to keep doing dailies.
Higher arcane force = easier to 1hko mobs with the 1.5x damage boost = easier to train anyway
2017-01-29, 09:51 AM
Shion
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Quote:
Originally Posted by byakugan
Why are you guys in such a rush to level your symbols anyway?
I wanna do my full dmg on Lucid so Im usefull for my squad, and dont have much time to grind everyday. And with these 2x lag events plus my normal internet lag. I feel banned from game on weekends.
2017-01-30, 09:04 PM
Ivangold
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Hey anyone know what %damage marksman skill have? I saw on @HighOnMushrooms blog that is 1200% at lv25, but @TheBlackMage sayed they nerfed to 1000%, so they didn't nerf it?:f6:
2017-01-30, 09:19 PM
TheBlackMage
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivangold
Hey anyone know what %damage marksman skill have? I saw on @HighOnMushrooms blog that is 1200% at lv25, but @TheBlackMage sayed they nerfed to 1000%, so they didn't nerf it?:f6:
1200%
2017-02-02, 01:55 AM
TheBlackMage
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Arcana is 225.
That's both surprising and isn't.
I'll take a wild guess and say that 360 AF mobs are still king.
Edit: http://www.insoya.com/bbs/icon/image...b2cd0e3586.PNG
Kinda correct if the layouts in arcana are bad;
288M hp for that (specific mob though) much exp is fairly good if you can't one shoot 360 AF mobs.
360 AF mobs are 504M hp and 422k exp, 9k difference between the mobs on the base level.
List of mobs here http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php...ple&no=1200090
Honestly it's kind of the same thing, but these mobs look awesome, can't wait to leave lacheln got sick of how it looks TBH.
2017-02-02, 02:03 AM
SwordStaker
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlackMage
Arcana is 225.
I'm honestly really surprised
2017-02-02, 05:32 AM
Ironical
Re: "Beyond" - 5th job second skill set
Google translated patch notes:
Spoiler
MapleStory Test Client Ver. 1.2.046 has been released .
In this patch, the following modifications , has been added .
< Mystery of the forest Arcana >
1. arcane New River area < forest of mystery Arcana > opens .
- Kill Lucid and ' battle ' user completing quests hear the sound of a flying fish arrived in Les helreun river downstream .
- Les helreun river can arrive at any time of the Arcana riding a flying fish downstream .
- Please evoking the mysteries of the forest Arcana fell into crisis with little spirits .
2. will be added below the monster .
- (. 230 Lv) Water Spirit
- (. 231 Lv) the spirit of the sunshine
- (. 232 Lv) the spirit of the earth
- (. 233 Lv) the spirit of the frost cloud
- (. 234 Lv) Elemental Lightning Cloud
- (. 235 Lv) the spirit of Venom
- (. 236 Lv) explosion spirit of
- (. 237 Lv) Elemental Chaos
- (. 238 Lv) spirit of despair
- (. 239 Lv) the spirit of grief
- (. 240 Lv) spirits of discord
- (. 240 Lv) spirit of harmony worsened
- (. 230 Lv) Wreck of the spirit
3. under the NPC has been added .
- Small spirits
- Spirits of the Wind
- Stray spirits of trees
- Spirits of trees
- Of the tree spirits
- Elemental Stone
- The spirit of the stone
- The spirit of harmony
- Grocery store Spirits
- Being shed spirits
- Whisper Flower
4. The following quests have been added .
- Urban nightmare over , hi : LV. 225, users
- Small spirits : LV. 225, small spirits
- The petals danced around Dun : LV. 225, small spirits
- Song of the Forest : LV. 225, small spirits
- A forest of grass flute : LV. 225, and the spirit of the wind,
- Vitality to the grass flute 1: LV. 225, small spirits
- Vitality to the grass flute 2: LV. 225, small spirits
- From a whisper of flowers : LV. 225, and the spirit of the wind,
- Moonlight and closest : LV. 225, small spirits
- In the deep woods : LV. 225, small spirits
- They are spirits of the trees : LV. 225, small spirits
- Find the spirit of the vanished wood : LV. 225, small spirits
- Back to the crowd : LV. 225, lost the spirit of the tree
- The state tree trunks half : LV. 225, in the spirit of the tree
- Where the tree trunks half : LV. 225, small spirits
- Trunk rev half 1: LV. 225, small spirits
- Trunk rev half 2: LV. 225, small spirits
- Resounding harp sound : LV. 225, in the spirit of the tree
- That the spirits of the trees : LV. 225, users
- A xylophone Pond : LV. 225, small spirits
- Into the pond : LV. 225, small spirits
- Twitching twitching : LV. 225, Elemental Stone
- Tightly blocked the flow of water and the spirit of the stone : LV. 225, Elemental Stone
- Top of each other top of each other , ask colleagues ! : LV. 225, Elemental Stone
- Towards the Tree of Spirits : LV. 225, Elemental Stone
- The evil spirits of the wood energy dwideopeun : LV. 225, small spirits
- Regaining harmony forest : LV. 225, and the spirit of harmony
5. The following items will be added .
- Equipment : arcane symbols : Arcana
- Other : Water life
- Other : the vitality of sunshine
- Other : the vitality of the soil
- Other : Deadly Scream
- Other : explosive scream
< Fantastic theme parks >
1. < theme Fantastic Theme Park dungeons > has been renovated .
- Fantastic Theme Park is a warrior came nimdeul a new story .
- 120 levels over the user 101 to the fantastic theme parks accept quests from The Lomi ahead of the first confession
You can enter .
- 101 Please help this fantastic proposal of Romi for the first confession !
2. New to the fantastic theme park NPC has been added .
- The Lomi
- Is supported
- Cloak doll ride
- Nurse Airlie
- Little Lady
- Alone, playing masters
- Haunted House - Oliver
- Gyro Drop - Al Pensione
- Vikings - Oliver
- Solo troops
3. The quests have been added to the fantastic theme parks .
- [ Fantastic theme park - the story of Romi : LV.120, the Lomi
- The Romi's 101 -th love : LV.120, the Lomi
- World First pounding confess plan : LV.120, the Lomi
- Heart rate sensor fled cycle : LV.120, the Lomi
- First place plans ! : LV.120, the Lomi
- Entrance gateway , courage test 1: LV.120, haunted house - Oliver
- Entrance gateway , courage test 2: LV.120 ,, haunted house - Oliver
- Thief ! Thrilling fight ghosts : LV.120, haunted house - Oliver
- Good day to confess : LV.120, the Lomi
- Resolute Lomi is : LV.120, the Lomi
- Turbulent heart rate sensor : LV.120, the Lomi
- Look for the meter : LV.120, the Lomi
- Stronger signal : LV.120, the Lomi
- Regained heartbeat sensor : LV.120, cloak doll ride
- The haejwoya before carrying it to : LV.120, the Lomi
- The second plan , drop tower : LV.120, the Lomi
- Fall in an instant ! : LV.120, drop tower - Al Pensione
- Thrilling confession of the Viking : LV.120, the Lomi
- Viking repair 1: LV.120, the Vikings - Oliver
- Viking Repair 2: LV.120, the Vikings - Oliver
- Crisis plan Confession : LV.120, the Lomi
- Control Zone , Animal Show : LV.120, the Lomi
- True confession : LV.120, the Lomi
- Event Preparation 1: LV.120, nurses Airlie
- Event Preparation 2: LV.120, nurses Airlie
- World First pounding 101 -th Confession : LV.120, nurses Airlie
4. adds the following items .
- Equipment : Heart Bracelet
- Medal : 101 -th Flirt
- Other : Dolly ribbon on cloth
- Other : Repair bag
- Other : ribbon brooch
< Games >
1. shortcuts and maple Union UI will be added to the Help icon .
2. Dream Breaker , will be added to the hungry More Muto .
3. produce the map in the BOSS Black Heaven core seuwoo immediately if the behavior can not be shot Skills
An error does not occur during the rotating laser action can not be corrected time .
4. weaken the Lucid is added . Defeat the weakened Lucid ' battle ' will be able to complete the quest .
5. without exposure to death while performing mission to infiltrate Earth Defense HQ camera
Change begins to move to the point .
< Skills related >
1. modifies the error below .
- Skills transparency beulraeseu de Hammer Paladins are modified does not apply phenomenon .
- Even Mercedes is fired the spirit aura when using Elemental Ghost Room and at the same time pedia
This phenomenon is not the enemy will be modified .
- The movement of Howling Gale's windbreaker will be corrected naturally .
- A phenomenon linked Jaguar Wild Hunter does not apply if the resurrection after death in Lucid boss is modified .
- Mechanic metal armor is : If you use the micro-tank missiles from the state will modify the symptoms that damage is reduced .
- Angelic Buster 5 This phenomenon is not corrected is transformed into a dress-up skills when used car .
< Quest Related >
1. Added a Quest Guide moved to the Earth Defense Headquarters .
[ Earth Defense HQ ]
- Test runs 1-1: Lv. 165, Dr. Porter
- For deokgu 1-1: Lv. 165, deokgu
- Look at whether win 1-1: Lv. 165, vents
- Gun vs Lynn 1-1: Lv. 165, children
- Broken heart 1-1: Lv. 165, children
< Event-related >
1. <BEYOND coin shop : Season 2> will start .
- The Festival box will drop during the event .
- The Festival box BEYOND can be obtained by experience and level coins ,
Day up to 60 can be used up times .
- BEYOND will change some of the Coin Shop items , items that are new additions are as follows .
n Equipment : Dark Adventure critical ring
n Equipment : Adventure critical ring
n Consumption : BEYOND random damage Skin Box II
n Consumption : Arcana Skin Damage
n Consumption : empeoreoseu Skin Damage
n Installation : Hall of maple warrior
n Installation : DJ Booth Chair
n Installation : dunk master chair
n Installation : wooden chairs spirits of Arcana
n Installation : Wings of BEYOND chair
n Consumption : best friend, sky riding a bike voucher ( permanent )
n Consumption : Polar bear riding vouchers ( permanent )
n Consumption : Elemental Arcana wind riding vouchers ( permanent )
n Consumption : Core Gemstone
n Other : BEYOND coin 10 dogs ( Magpie Coin 10- day dog 10 available times )
- The possible purchase quantities of all items except the ring of solidarity vouchers will be reset .
1. <Festival, an all-in-one gift box > , the event is in progress .
- This winter BEYOND will be an all-in-one gift for all veterans with nimdeul submitted .
- During the event [the festival] all-in-one gift box, go get ~ through a quest
You can find detailed event information .
- During the event at the official website Nexon ID per one can obtain compensation under the times .
( Test World does not proceed .)
n cache : BEYOND all-in-one gift voucher 1 dogs
- BEYOND all-in-one gift voucher is paid to the representative character can be obtained through the library cache .
- BEYOND The all-in-one gift voucher it can obtain compensation under .
n Consumption : BEYOND all-in-one gift box 1 dogs
- BEYOND all-in-one gift can be exchanged across the world my character .
- BEYOND You can obtain compensation under the use of all-in-one gift box .
n Consumption : Experience two -fold coupons (15 -minute ) 5 dogs
n Consumption : deuropyul two times the coupons (15 -minute ) 5 dogs
n Consumption : Elixir of storms grow 1 dogs
n Consumption : Elixir of growing tendencies 1 dogs
n cache : pebeureori Royal Hair Coupon 1 dogs
n cache : Trendy Royal Plastic Surgery Coupons 1 dogs
n cache : Dyeing advanced coupon 1 dogs
n cache : skin care coupon 1 dogs
n Consumption : select slot 4 Khan extended 3 dogs
n Consumption : storage slot 8 column extensions 1 dogs
n Consumption : Increases character slots coupons 1 dogs
n Other : Magpie coin 100 dogs
- Reboot , reboot, two in the world and pebeureori Royal Hair Coupon
Trendy Royal Plastic Surgery coupons will be paid changes to the next item .
n Consumption : reboot Hair Coupon 1 dogs
n Consumption : reboot molding coupon 1 dogs
2. < Festival mega-burning project > The event will start .
- You can specify a character string of mega-burning per hour produced World .
- The character specified by the mega burning up to 130 to level one each time when leveling up
+2 May obtain additional levels of level
- The characters specified by the mega-burning character will be paid the following gift box .
- A mysterious secret box
n cache : Snail Pet 1 dogs
- The secret of the legend box
n Equipment : Black Hat 1 dogs
n Equipment : black cape 1 dogs
n Equipment : black suit 1 dogs
n Consumption : black box weapon 1 dogs
n Consumption : Black Secondary Weapon Box 1 dogs
n Consumption : Mastery Book 20 2 dogs
n Consumption : Mastery Book 30 2 dogs
- 30 level equipment boxes
- Keep on Burning title vouchers
3. < Festival Saturday Benefits > The event will start .
- 2017 years 2 Mon. 11 on Saturday, has the following benefits apply .
n Soul piece 10 dogs Great Soul to Soul acquired in an exchange probability 5 times
n Monster Park 7 times for free
n the Box Festival BEYOND coin provision 2 times
- 2017 years 2 Mon. 18 on Saturday, has the following benefits apply .
n Star Force 5, 10 and 15 strengthen the castle success rate of 100%
n the Box Festival BEYOND coin provision 2 times
- 2017 years 2 Mon. 25 on Saturday, has the following benefits apply .
n BEYOND coin shop 30% discount (BEYOND coin 10 dogs are excluded from the discount )
n the Box Festival BEYOND coin provision 2 times
- Test In this part of the world to benefit from a smooth test applies at all times .
4. < Festival Sugar Time !> , The event will start .
- When connected to the game during the event time Sugar Festival dedicated UI is connected to the cumulative time is recorded .
- Cumulative connection time is 30 minutes , 60 minutes , 90 minutes , 120 only each time it reaches the minute UI of
< Download > Click the button to obtain compensation under .
- 30-hour access minutes
n Other : BEYOND coin 10 dogs
- 60hour access minutes
n Other : BEYOND coin 30 dogs
n Consumption : Experience two -fold coupons (15 -minute ) 1 dogs
- 90-hour access minutes
n Other : BEYOND coin 10 dogs
- 120when connecting minutes
n Consumption : Festival Sugar Box 1 dogs
n Consumption : Festival Sugar coin box 1 dogs
n Consumption : Experience two -fold coupons (15 -minute ) 1 dogs
- If you acquire all of the above compensation is initialized cumulative time , you can get compensation from scratch .
- Any compensation Maple ID up to my period per 5 can be acquired only once .
- Cumulative access time of maple ID will be shared between all my characters , the maximum value (120 -minute ) reaches or
Compensation can acquire the maximum number of times (5 times ) it reaches no longer cumulative .
- 33level or higher ( Story Chapter 2 completes the zero ) character, onlythe left side of the screen for the duration of the event
When you click the Notifier icon Sugar Time Festival dedicated UI lets you open and view .
- Festival of the Sugar coin box is to be paid each time using BEYOND item that increases the number of pieces of coin .
2. < Exploration of the train syupigelman : Trading king of the Nihal Desert > The event will start .
- Event participation Target : 33 levels or more characters , storyline quests chapter two one zero character complete
- Allows the quest for the event, go to the Free Trade Area of the alrimyi Nihal Desert proceed with the event .
- Transactions with dealers located in the free trade zones and places within a time limit must be increased many gold coins as possible .
- Gold and commodities is initialized during re-entry , it will be purchased with a wheelbarrow worker is maintained by re-entry .
- Moahon gold coins can be exchanged for various rewards from syupigelman .
n Consumption : Persistent Frog wagon ride coupons 1 dogs
n Consumption : Permanent ostrich wagon ride coupons 1 dogs
n Consumption : Permanent camel wagon ride coupons 1 dogs
n consumption : the energy of DaifugÅ 1 dogs (1 Maximum days 10 dogs )
n Other : BEYOND coin 100 dogs (1 days Maximum 100 dogs )
n Methodist : 500 10 000 method (1 days Maximum 2000 10 000 method )
- One days is the number of possible positions per World 10 is the time .
5. < Valentine's Day > , the event is in progress .
- Event participation Target : 33 levels or more characters , storyline quests chapter two one zero character complete
- When you click the Notifier icon Event during the event to talk to Cassandra.
You can proceed to the Valentine's Day event in Cassandra .
- To hunt the monster level ranges during the event gathered qualitative containing chocolate
When passed to Cassandra, you can obtain the following items .
n Other : BEYOND coin 5 dogs
- Qualitative containing chocolate a day, 10 can come together once .
That's so cool :glitter: the map is so bealtifull too:glitter:, you help some weird creatures in this city.
look how you come to this place in the beginning:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0ZtIGug0_U