PAL-V One - Flying Car / Trike / Helicopter launched
The Dutch company PAL-V launched their first flying car / trike / helicopter, the PAL-V One.
Just amazing, they combined the epic Carver with a folding helicopter!
MUST...HAVE...ONE!!! :chin:
2012 - PAL-V One:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgHSaNtAMjs
2003 - Carver:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb-MIuXTlEs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK4wzBYmTIo
Website: http://www.pal-v.com
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That is one cruel April Fool joke. Toonami one was worse.
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Looks serious. Looks like it could do with some dampening of the vibrations in the vehicle body, or we'll expect people to start puking over the instruments.
Otherwise, yes. Impressive to me. Would like to know the cost in 5 years' time. *prus one*
Hadriel
[btw, I have a license but I don't drive =.="]
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Ehhh that's not exactly what I had in mind when I think of the term "flying car", but I suppose it is in fact flying.
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^ Yeah. It works as another recreational vehicle, but it definitely ain't going to replace plain old road cars as a major system of transportation.
For that we will need monopoles. So peeps, get studying.
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Locked
That is one cruel April Fool joke. Toonami one was worse.
It's not an April fool joke, it's actually real.
Mass production will start in 2014, price will be around $200.000,- at launch which is extremely cheap for a chopper + car that can drive on the road. Prices will most likely go down in the years after that! :D
Speed is about 180km/hour (110m/hour) both on road and air and can carry two people.
You don't need a chopper license, only a small private air license.
It's just great! :D
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Just what the world needs: drunks airborne.
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Drunk flying is easily remedied by a breathalyzer that must be used before ignition and prevents it if anything other than .00 comes up.
Or drunk driving for that matter.
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There's more space to drunkenly dodge people in the air, too!
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Drunken driver/pilots => Death drops from the sky...
Hadriel
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Yep, never done before, oh wait:
http://travelforaircraft.files.wordp...pg?w=600&h=400
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autogir..._America_AC-35
Same reasons why this will fail still persist:
1) Need extra license (those aren't cheap).
2) Too dangerous for it to be common as a car (thought road crashes were bad? now take them to air).
3) And the worst, you still need to drive to an airport (and you even have to get out of the car to help it change to flight mode).
Really hope its an April Fool's day prank.
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Luxeraph
1) Well neither is the PAL in the first place. Clearly if you have upwards of 200 grand to drop on something like this an extra license will be no big deal.
2) This one is obvious, there's a lot more harm to be done with these even if EXTREME safety measures are taken.
3) So? I mean the mode changes can probably be made automatic, but why would driving to the airport be a huge downside? At least if you have one of these you hopefully won't have to worry as much about the ridiculous limitations that the airports give you.
Also that design is terribad. It totally isn't as fast as this one claims to be either.
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Takebacker
3) So? I mean the mode changes can probably be made automatic, but why would driving to the airport be a huge downside? At least if you have one of these you hopefully won't have to worry as much about the ridiculous limitations that the airports give you.
Theres still a bunch of limitations on that type of airports, first being they aren't as common as you would like them to be, plus if I'm not wrong you have to pay each time you use it and I bet a whole bunch of other stuff.
Only people I can see buying this are kinda rich showoffs, since a bit lower and they only have for any of the other more tested options that are cheaper, and a bit more they are able to buy luxury airplanes (or at least pay a pilot) and both the one with less and the one with more can be driven/drive in a fancy car instead of driving something that I bet is not very comfortable.
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Luxeraph
Same reasons why this will fail still persist:
1) Need extra license (those aren't cheap).
2) Too dangerous for it to be common as a car (thought road crashes were bad? now take them to air).
3) And the worst, you still need to drive to an airport (and you even have to get out of the car to help it change to flight mode).
Really hope its an April Fool's day prank.
in order:
1) that's correct.
2) this doesn't really apply, there's rules to flying to prevent most, if not all, crashes, how many times have you heard of people with a small plane for personal use crash?
3) technically, you don't, you can have a grass strip in your backyard, then again, (it has to be a somewhat big yard) but from the video it didn't look like it needed much running to take off with it.
main problems with it is the cost of "getting it to fly"
edit: what i'm most interested on hearing though, is WHY it doesn't spin sideways, like helicopters without a tail.
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Luxeraph
That plane-car can't reach 180km/h (110m/h) safely and steer trough corners on a highway, this one can. It really has an advanced road-steering system.
Also:
1. The license is only about +/- 20~30 extra hours if you already have a driving license.
2. There will be strict guidelines where and how to fly, otherwise you won't get your license or will loose it again in a jiffy. ;)
3. You don't need to drive to an airport with this thing. Maybe in The Netherlands, which is the most densely populated country in the western world, but it only needs 160 meters to take off, so an empty road somewhere in the USA will do fine. :)
And again, no it's not an April Fool's prank, it was on Dutch television with the designers / investors and the test pilot. It's real! :)
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Devil
That plane-car can't reach 180km/h (110m/h) safely and steer trough corners on a highway, this one can. It really has an advanced road-steering system.
Also:
1. The license is only about +/- 20~30 extra hours if you already have a driving license.
2. There will be strict guidelines where and how to fly, otherwise you won't get your license or will loose it again in a jiffy. ;)
3. You don't need to drive to an airport with this thing. Maybe in The Netherlands, which is the most densely populated country in the western world, but it only needs 160 meters to take off, so an empty road somewhere in the USA will do fine. :)
And again, no it's not an April Fool's prank, it was on Dutch television with the designers / investors and the test pilot. It's real! :)
And why would you want to go at that speed? Showoff is the only thing that I can think of.
1.
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Originally Posted by PAL-V FAQ
Do I need a license to fly the PAL-V?
Yes, you certainly need a license to fly. To be able to operate an airplane you will need some basic understanding of Navigation, Instruments, Meteorology, Aerodynamics and Performance. All pilots of aircraft need training and the PAL-V is no exception. Although every effort is made to make sure that the PAL-V is easy to control, you will need practical training to operate this rotorcraft safely. To acquire a license you have to pass a theoretical exam (Recreational Pilot License or RPL or PPL) and have a reasonable amount of training with an instructor and as single pilot (solo) to learn to fly a gyroplane. The gyroplane license can usually be obtained within 20 to 40 hours of training, depending on skill and talent, regulations per country and previous aviation experience. In Europe, to acquire the PPL (or RPL) you will need to pass a medical check as well (Medical Certificate Class II). The cost of training for a license varies in each country but in general about 5000 EUR should be enough to get you the license.
2. There are strict guidelines for where and how to drive, people still get kill by cars everyday.
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Will it be possible to take of from the highway?
Taking off from the highway is not allowed at present and most probably will not be for good reasons. For your safety and the safety of others it very important that take-off and landing takes place at designated (short) strips. For landing 50 meters (150 feet) and for takeoff 200 meters (600 feet) is usually enough. Creating such an airstrip is not very costly. The only exception may be very rural areas in places like Australia and Africa.
Even if its real its pretty stupid, $200.000 (althought the other price I've been seeing ($75k) is more in the budget of more people but more people with this thing... I don't think its a good idea) is a bit too much for something that is neither a high performance car nor a plane and it wont get many people buying it aside from showoff rich guys (and morons with a couple of mortages on their house).
So in resume:
Fun expensive toy: Yes.
Something useful: Not much.
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Luxeraph
And why would you want to go at that speed? Showoff is the only thing that I can think of.
2. There are strict guidelines for where and how to drive, people still get kill by cars everyday.
So in resume:
Fun expensive toy: Yes.
Something useful: Not much.
just pointing out, those requirements aren't just to fly the PAL-V, they're to fly ANYTHING. problem comes in the cost of 6 grand on top of the cost of the Pal-V (EEUU only asks you for a third class medical, but whatever)
his comment wasn't only about the speed, was about the "car" being safe, as in, it won't topside if you try turning at 100KM/H
nowhere near as many people die from flying as people die from driving, but i guess the main reason for that is that the air has a LOT more space, and a LOT less people on it.
this is the kind of things that would really get worse if too many people did it, but what keeps most of them from doing this (or buying a plane) is the same thing, it's pretty freaking expensive.
pretty sure the PAL-V will have to go through the same regulations that most planes do regarding check ups to keep it worthy of flying, and that's expensive too ~_~
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Side note, the govts. will need to have predefined take-off and landing zones, before the chopper blades... well... chop things up.
Hadriel
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As long as it requires a strip to take off and land, it can't be used for the most pressing need for a flying car: circumventing traffic jams.
If it were a proper chopper it could land on the roofs of many buildings in big cities (given permits and whatever), but as it is, it can't take you to work and back.
It also can't take you on vacation, because apparently it has barely enough room for one person, and no significant luggage. I suppose if they develop a "family model" that can carry 5 people + luggage like an ordinary sedan, and carry them in relative comfort (small planes are baaaad for people with motion sickness) a distance that makes the extra cost worth it...
Anyway, the proof of concept is nice, but as we've seen above, "pocket helicopters" have been proposed before.
I'm waiting to see the mass-production model.
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Fuel costs should also be outrageous. Flying gurgles a lot of gas.