I searched around for a while trying to find someone else that's done this. I didn't find any tables.
This work was done entirely by me and took quite a while.
Hopefully you found this guide before spending too much waru trying to combine monsters. It is much easier to combine monsters AFTER gaining a steady income.
I couldn't get the final house, The Secret Garden, to factor properly. It's nowhere near the best house of all, but the data just will not come out right.
If you have enough for The Secret Garden, you dont need this anyway xD
Basic House Table (waru)
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house
level
cost (waru)
rate (10mins)
rate (1 hr)
max storage
time to max
aesthetic
efficiency aesthetic
size (sq)
Green Mushroom Hut
1
100
2
12
50
4:10
5
1.2500
4
Henesys Homestead
2
400
7
42
80
1:54
30
1.8750
4
Orange Mushroom House
2
150
3
18
60
3:20
5
0.8333
4
Sturdy Straw House
3
200
5
30
50
1:40
10
1.2500
4
Red Mushroom Manor
3
300
6
36
100
2:46
10
0.8333
4
Windmill
4
700
10
60
70
1:10
20
0.7143
4
Chopper Chalet
5
600
8
48
120
2:30
10
0.4167
4
Red Brick Abode
6
700
10
60
100
1:40
15
0.5357
4
Lofty Brick House
7
800
8
48
110
2:17
30
0.9375
4
Purple Bathhouse
8
900
9
54
110
2:02
20
0.5556
4
Blue Bathhouse
9
1000
12
72
100
1:23
15
0.3750
4
Big Apple Fruit Shop
10
1200
10
60
160
2:40
30
0.6250
4
Octo Pot Seafood
10
1200
13
78
140
1:47
5
0.1042
4
Blossom House
11
1500
12
72
180
2:30
25
0.4167
4
Pink Angel Place
12
1500
10
60
210
3:30
30
0.5000
4
Gingerbread Gables
13
1700
14
84
200
2:22
20
0.2941
4
Blue Mushroom mansion
14
1700
12
72
240
3:20
10
0.1471
4
Ariant Fabrics
15
2000
12
72
360
5:00
5
0.0625
4
Mushking Empire Outpost
16
3000
16
96
700
7:17
10
0.0370
9
Nova Safehouse
17
2500
18
108
300
2:46
20
0.2000
4
Elluel House
18
2700
15
90
330
3:40
40
0.3704
4
Happy Homestead
19
3500
20
120
340
2:50
20
0.1429
4
Melody Manor
20
3700
17
102
300
2:56
50
0.3378
4
Santa's Special Shop
21
4000
22
132
450
3:24
40
0.2500
4
Tick Tock Townhouse
22
4200
25
150
400
2:40
35
0.2083
4
Mu Lung Dojo
23
4200
23
138
450
3:15
35
0.2083
4
Icy Treat Retreat
24
4500
20
120
500
4:10
40
0.2222
4
Beatdown Shop
25
6000
30
180
750
4:10
30
0.0556
9
Tip-Top Toy Shop
26
5000
22
132
500
3:47
50
0.2500
4
Edelstein Air Field
27
6500
33
198
800
4:02
20
0.0342
9
Big Top Tenement
28
6000
28
168
500
2:58
30
0.1250
4
Big Bowl Noodles
29
6500
30
180
450
2:30
40
0.1538
4
The Lumiere
30
8000
35
210
900
4:17
30
0.0417
9
The Secret Garden
35
550000
82
492
6000
12:11
1500
0.0170
16
Basic House Table (gems)
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house
level
cost (gem)
rate (10mins)
rate (1 hr)
max storage
time to max
aesthetic
efficiency aesthetic
size (sq)
Rien Hot Springs
3
9
25
150
2200
14:40
200
4.5000
4
Mu Lung Barber Shop
3
9
27
162
1800
11:06
200
4.5000
4
Tip Top Balloon Shop
3
12
35
210
3000
14:17
400
3.0000
4
Floatland Manor
3
6
23
138
2000
14:29
150
4.0000
9
Healthy Hospital
3
12
44
264
3500
13:15
250
4.8000
9
Monster Manor
3
15
42
252
5000
19:50
4000
0.3750
9
Mr. Teddy X
3
17
48
288
4500
15:37
500
3.4000
9
Ms. Teddy X
3
17
52
312
3500
11:13
500
3.4000
9
Yellow Submarine
3
20
72
432
7000
16:12
900
2.2222
16
Refreshing Oasis
3
20
76
456
6000
13:09
1000
2.0000
16
Yeti Super Stage
3
20
82
492
5000
10:09
700
2.8571
16
Nautilus Harbor
3
23
91
546
5000
9:09
1500
1.5333
16
Shinsoo's Nest
3
23
87
522
10000
19:09
7000
0.3286
16
Sorted by Aesthetic
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waru per square
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house
level
cost (waru)
rate (10mins)
rate (1 hr)
max storage
time to max
aesthetic
efficiency aesthetic
size (sq)
Henesys Homestead
2
400
7
42
80
1:54
30
1.8750
4
Green Mushroom Hut
1
100
2
12
50
4:10
5
1.2500
4
Sturdy Straw House
3
200
5
30
50
1:40
10
1.2500
4
Lofty Brick House
7
800
8
48
110
2:17
30
0.9375
4
Orange Mushroom House
2
150
3
18
60
3:20
5
0.8333
4
Red Mushroom Manor
3
300
6
36
100
2:46
10
0.8333
4
Windmill
4
700
10
60
70
1:10
20
0.7143
4
Big Apple Fruit Shop
10
1200
10
60
160
2:40
30
0.6250
4
Purple Bathhouse
8
900
9
54
110
2:02
20
0.5556
4
Red Brick Abode
6
700
10
60
100
1:40
15
0.5357
4
Pink Angel Place
12
1500
10
60
210
3:30
30
0.5000
4
Chopper Chalet
5
600
8
48
120
2:30
10
0.4167
4
Blossom House
11
1500
12
72
180
2:30
25
0.4167
4
Blue Bathhouse
9
1000
12
72
100
1:23
15
0.3750
4
Elluel House
18
2700
15
90
330
3:40
40
0.3704
4
Melody Manor
20
3700
17
102
300
2:56
50
0.3378
4
Gingerbread Gables
13
1700
14
84
200
2:22
20
0.2941
4
Santa's Special Shop
21
4000
22
132
450
3:24
40
0.2500
4
Tip-Top Toy Shop
26
5000
22
132
500
3:47
50
0.2500
4
Icy Treat Retreat
24
4500
20
120
500
4:10
40
0.2222
4
Tick Tock Townhouse
22
4200
25
150
400
2:40
35
0.2083
4
Mu Lung Dojo
23
4200
23
138
450
3:15
35
0.2083
4
Nova Safehouse
17
2500
18
108
300
2:46
20
0.2000
4
Big Bowl Noodles
29
6500
30
180
450
2:30
40
0.1538
4
Blue Mushroom mansion
14
1700
12
72
240
3:20
10
0.1471
4
Happy Homestead
19
3500
20
120
340
2:50
20
0.1429
4
Big Top Tenement
28
6000
28
168
500
2:58
30
0.1250
4
Octo Pot Seafood
10
1200
13
78
140
1:47
5
0.1042
4
Ariant Fabrics
15
2000
12
72
360
5:00
5
0.0625
4
Beatdown Shop
25
6000
30
180
750
4:10
30
0.0556
9
The Lumiere
30
8000
35
210
900
4:17
30
0.0417
9
Mushking Empire Outpost
16
3000
16
96
700
7:17
10
0.0370
9
Edelstein Air Field
27
6500
33
198
800
4:02
20
0.0342
9
The Secret Garden
35
550000
82
492
6000
12:11
1500
0.0170
16
gem per square
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house
level
cost (gem)
rate (10mins)
rate (1 hr)
max storage
time to max
aesthetic
efficiency asthetic
size (sq)
Healthy Hospital
3
12
44
264
3500
13:15
250
4.8000
9
Rien Hot Springs
3
9
25
150
2200
14:40
200
4.5000
4
Mu Lung Barber Shop
3
9
27
162
1800
11:06
200
4.5000
4
Floatland Manor
3
6
23
138
2000
14:29
150
4.0000
9
Mr. Teddy X
3
17
48
288
4500
15:37
500
3.4000
9
Ms. Teddy X
3
17
52
312
3500
11:13
500
3.4000
9
Tip Top Balloon Shop
3
12
35
210
3000
14:17
400
3.0000
4
Yeti Super Stage
3
20
82
492
5000
10:09
700
2.8571
16
Yellow Submarine
3
20
72
432
7000
16:12
900
2.2222
16
Refreshing Oasis
3
20
76
456
6000
13:09
1000
2.0000
16
Nautilus Harbor
3
23
91
546
5000
9:09
1500
1.5333
16
Monster Manor
3
15
42
252
5000
19:50
4000
0.3750
9
Shinsoo's Nest
3
23
87
522
10000
19:09
7000
0.3286
16
Profit Farming Summary and Tips
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Minimize your monster combinations and maximize your house purchases.
A Mushroom will give a Shop discount. It took me 20k waru to get a rank A+ Mushmom. Do this before Level 14. *Effects do not stack! One mushroom is enough*
(C) fuse (B+) until (B) or better. Then, (B) or (B+) fuse (A) until (A) or better. Lastly, (A) fuse (A) until (A+)
You receive 10% of the non-discount price when selling back a house. Keep a dozen+ houses to top off the farm after upgrading sizes.
Hold down the ENTER key while clicking houses to harvest waru faster.
All beginner/quest houses are replaced and resold except the Level 5 Hot Happy Homestead, (quest reward house) which remains on the farm until replaced by Tick Tock Townhouse. Values based off 2x2, waru houses. Aside from gem houses, 2x2 are mostly more better
Drag all your monsters into a single square to keep them out of the way.
Additional columns of Fill Cost account for replacing the entire map with increased/upgraded farm size
Explanation
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I used several formulas to compare the houses per level and such. For the low level houses, their max storage is all pretty low, and efficiency falls apart when storage becomes maxed and cannot be harvest right away.
Depending on how quickly one levels up, it may take an extra day or two to reach Gingerbread Gables at level 13, and an additional day to reach Nova Safehouse at lvl 17. These are "milestone" houses, whereas all the other houses around those levels pale in comparison. The entire farm can be replaced, if desired.
I consider Tick Tock Townhouse to be the best house of all and increasing beyond TTT is unnecessary. All the houses after TTT cost more per waru rate and/or require larger than (2x2) squares. For anyone truly curious how I came about these numbers, I could send the raw data directly to you.
Storage Efficiency Table - Maximizing storage cost for those who can't harvest waru often
Summary
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house
level
cost (waru)
rate (10mins)
rate (1 hr)
max storage
time to max
aesthetic
storage cost
storage efficiency
size (sq)
The Secret Garden
35
550000
82
492
6000
12:11
1500
0.0007
0.2557
16
Icy Treat Retreat
24
4500
20
120
500
4:10
40
0.0278
3.4722
4
Santa's Special Shop
21
4000
22
132
450
3:24
40
0.0281
3.1641
4
Ariant Fabrics
15
2000
12
72
360
5:00
5
0.0450
4.0500
4
Blue Mushroom Mansion
14
1700
12
72
240
3:20
10
0.0353
2.1176
4
Big Apple Fruit Shop
10
1200
10
60
160
2:40
30
0.0333
1.3333
4
Red Mushroom Manor
3
300
6
36
100
2:46
10
0.0833
2.0833
4
Orange Mushroom House
2
150
3
18
60
3:20
5
0.1000
1.5000
4
Waiting for Ariant Fabrics, instead of Blue Mushroom Mansion, is a personal choice. One of these will probably fill your entire map for a while.
Full Storage Table
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house
level
cost (waru)
rate (10mins)
rate (1 hr)
max storage
time to max
aesthetic
storage cost
storage efficiency
size (sq)
The Secret Garden
35
550000
82
492
6000
12:11
1500
0.0007
0.2557
16
The Lumiere
30
8000
35
210
900
4:17
30
0.0125
1.2500
9
Edelstein Air Field
27
6500
33
198
800
4:02
20
0.0137
1.2156
9
Beatdown Shop
25
6000
30
180
750
4:10
30
0.0139
1.1574
9
Mushking Empire Outpost
16
3000
16
96
700
7:17
10
0.0259
2.0165
9
Icy Treat Retreat
24
4500
20
120
500
4:10
40
0.0278
3.4722
4
Tip-Top Toy Shop
26
5000
22
132
500
3:47
50
0.0250
3.1250
4
Big Top Tenement
28
6000
28
168
500
2:58
30
0.0208
2.6042
4
Santa's Special Shop
21
4000
22
132
450
3:24
40
0.0281
3.1641
4
Mu Lung Dojo
23
4200
23
138
450
3:15
35
0.0268
3.0134
4
Big Bowl Noodles
29
6500
30
180
450
2:30
40
0.0173
1.9471
4
Tick Tock Townhouse
22
4200
25
150
400
2:40
35
0.0238
2.3810
4
Ariant Fabrics
15
2000
12
72
360
5:00
5
0.0450
4.0500
4
Happy Homestead
19
3500
20
120
340
2:50
20
0.0243
2.0643
4
Elluel House
18
2700
15
90
330
3:40
40
0.0306
2.5208
4
Nova Safehouse
17
2500
18
108
300
2:46
20
0.0300
2.2500
4
Melody Manor
20
3700
17
102
300
2:56
50
0.0203
1.5203
4
Blue Mushroom mansion
14
1700
12
72
240
3:20
10
0.0353
2.1176
4
Pink Angel Place
12
1500
10
60
210
3:30
30
0.0350
1.8375
4
Gingerbreaad Gables
13
1700
14
84
200
2:22
20
0.0294
1.4706
4
Blossom House
11
1500
12
72
180
2:30
25
0.0300
1.3500
4
Big Apple Fruit Shop
10
1200
10
60
160
2:40
30
0.0333
1.3333
4
Octo Pot Seafood
10
1200
13
78
140
1:47
5
0.0292
1.0208
4
Chopper Chalet
5
600
8
48
120
2:30
10
0.0500
1.5000
4
Lofty Brick House
7
800
8
48
110
2:17
30
0.0344
0.9453
4
Purple Bathhouse
8
900
9
54
110
2:02
20
0.0306
0.8403
4
Red Mushroom Manor
3
300
6
36
100
2:46
10
0.0833
2.0833
4
Red Brick Abode
6
700
10
60
100
1:40
15
0.0357
0.8929
4
Blue Bathhouse
9
1000
12
72
100
1:23
15
0.0250
0.6250
4
Henesys Homestead
2
400
7
42
80
1:54
30
0.0500
1.0000
4
Windmill
4
700
10
60
70
1:10
20
0.0250
0.4375
4
Orange Mushroom House
2
150
3
18
60
3:20
5
0.1000
1.5000
4
Green Mushroom Hut
1
100
2
12
50
4:10
5
0.1250
1.5625
4
Sturdy Straw House
3
200
5
30
50
1:40
10
0.0625
0.7813
4
Max Profit - Because harvesting every single hour is no problem
Efficiency Table - These are the most cost effective houses to buy at level increments.
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house
level
cost (waru)
rate (10mins)
rate (1 hr)
max storage
time to max
aesthetic
rate per cost
rate per size
efficiency rating
size (sq)
Tick Tock Townhouse
22
4200
25
150
400
2:40
35
0.0357
0.8929
0.3189
4
Nova Safehouse
17
2500
18
108
300
2:46
20
0.0432
1.0800
0.4666
4
Blue Bathhouse
9
1000
12
72
100
1:23
15
0.0720
1.8000
1.2960
4
Windmill
4
700
10
60
70
1:10
20
0.0857
2.1429
1.8367
4
house
level
cost (waru)
rate (10mins)
rate (1 hr)
max storage
time to max
aesthetic
rate per cost
rate per size
efficiency rating
size (sq)
Big Apple Fruit Shop
10
1200
10
60
160
2:40
30
0.0500
1.2500
0.6250
4
Red Mushroom Manor
3
300
6
36
100
2:46
10
0.1200
3.0000
3.6000
4
For 2hr harvesting (instead of 1hr), replace Windmill with Red Mushroom Manor, and Blue Bathhouse with Big Apple Fruit Shop.
For anything MORE than 2hr harvesting, use the Storage Efficiency Table
Rate Table Summary
If you can truly harvest 24 hours a day (i.e. your storage never maxes) then you just have to fill your farm with the highest waru rates available.
I haven't done any contrast-and-compare, just putting it here so people so inclined can dig into the numbers however they like.
@Stereo; should include the Tip-Top Ballon shop. It's a special shop item (At least it's on the gems part, like all those), produces 35 warus, stores 3000, has 400 aesthetic points... AND IT'S ONLY ON A 2x2 SIZE. That throws it off the charts with a 750 max waru per tile, filled in about hour and a half (oops... wrong math... It's actually around 14 hours... I guess it'll depend on how much you check (SCRATCH THAT TOO. Apparently it's one of the most efficient at producing too, if not the best, because it's x2 as efficient or more than a 3x3 building.)), the next house being at 555... Even if it's the most expensive, it has to be the best choice for efficiency.
2013-05-28, 04:55 AM
SaptaZapta
Re: Monster Life Housing Guide
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloy
@Stereo; should include the Tip-Top Ballon shop. It's a special shop item (At least it's on the gems part, like all those), produces 35 warus, stores 3000, has 400 aesthetic points... AND IT'S ONLY ON A 2x2 SIZE. That throws it off the charts with a 750 max waru per tile, filled in about hour and a half (oops... wrong math... It's actually around 14 hours... I guess it'll depend on how much you check (SCRATCH THAT TOO. Apparently it's one of the most efficient at producing too, if not the best, because it's x2 as efficient or more than a 3x3 building.)), the next house being at 555... Even if it's the most expensive, it has to be the best choice for efficiency.
Saw it in my special shop today. Couldn't buy it, of course.
2013-05-28, 04:58 AM
kayeyearekay
Re: Monster Life Housing Guide
I looked at Stereo's spreadsheet, and the values & "green, yellow, red, black" comparison is similar to my original data; of which i had to edit. I had to redo my charts and add additional qualifiers because the data I had, while being correct, was also inaccurate. For instance, Mushking Outpost compared to Nova Safehouse. In my own initial data, and likewise in Stereo's spreadsheet, it shows MKO is superior to NSH, except that one) MKO is 9 squares, two) it has a smaller waru rate, and three) it costs more; than NSH does.
Or Pink Angel Place compared to Gingerbread Gables. If you go and look at my own farm, its half full of PAP, unfortunately. Gingerbread Gables is a better house. I didn't notice the mistake until my final data check through. My final summary is a mix of comparing overall data values as well as side by side comparing similar-level houses.
2013-05-28, 12:42 PM
Stereo
Re: Monster Life Housing Guide
Yeah, I should maybe rearrange the columns; the last two (waru generated per tile and waru stored per tile) are much more likely to be important than amount per building. I just didn't notice that they weren't all 2x2 until I was level 15 and thinking of buying the Mushking Outpost. I do most of my sorting by the last one (waru stored per tile) since I want the most generated per day and I can't check it every couple hours.
When the special shop shows up I've been adding the buildings I see with waru prices; I left the gem costs out because I'm not planning to buy any so I have a strictly limited supply.
2013-05-28, 01:42 PM
kayeyearekay
Re: Monster Life Housing Guide
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stereo
I do most of my sorting by the last one (waru stored per tile) since I want the most generated per day and I can't check it every couple hours.
use an elimination process with weighted criteria.
time to max > max storage > waru rate per square
this works best for anyone who can't check storage every three hours. which gets me thinking, im gonna change my tables around again.
hopefully by the end of the day, i'll add the following tables:
fastest waru rate per hour(s) per cost (better for those who can harvest any time they want)
most waru stored per hour(s) per cost (better for those who cannot harvest for long periods; i.e. school, work, sleep)
i think i'll remove the aesthetic tables, since its only a purchase comparison/criteria.
2013-06-04, 08:26 PM
Narthus
Re: Monster Life Housing Guide
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloy
@Stereo; should include the Tip-Top Ballon shop. It's a special shop item (At least it's on the gems part, like all those), produces 35 warus, stores 3000, has 400 aesthetic points... AND IT'S ONLY ON A 2x2 SIZE. That throws it off the charts with a 750 max waru per tile, filled in about hour and a half (oops... wrong math... It's actually around 14 hours... I guess it'll depend on how much you check (SCRATCH THAT TOO. Apparently it's one of the most efficient at producing too, if not the best, because it's x2 as efficient or more than a 3x3 building.)), the next house being at 555... Even if it's the most expensive, it has to be the best choice for efficiency.
I totally agree with this. The 3x3 and 4x4 houses (regardless of gem-bought or not) are not that efficient when it comes to waru generation, in comparison to just amassing the highest tier 2x2 houses. If we compare 4 Tip-Top Balloon Shops to a Shinsoo's Nest, this is what we get for 16 Squares:
4X Tip-Top Balloon: 140 Waru per 10 min., 12,000 Waru Storage, and 1,600 Aesthetic Points
Shinsoo Nest: 87 Waru per 10 min., 7,000 Waru Storage, and 2,000 Aesthetic Points
Shinsoo's only wins in the Aesthetic Points department, but for 16 squares of land, it's not as waru-efficient. Honestly, Tip-Top Balloon looks like the BEST-IN-GAME property to me at the moment. The best thing to do is save up 250k warus, for every time Tip-Top Balloon shows up in special shop. I really see no point (in the long run) to buy the other 2x2 properties after level 20.
When looking at decor, the Cannon looks like the BEST-IN-GAME decor item to me as well, when bought en-masse. It's a 1x1 item that dwarfs everything else when bought in multiples.
16 Cannons vs. 1 Elluel Rune Tree - 16 Squares
16 Cannons = 51200 Aesthetic Points
1 Elluel Rune Tree = 13000 Aesthetic Points
2013-06-04, 09:56 PM
ShinkuDragon
Re: Monster Life Housing Guide
you kinda have to compare the 3x3 houses as if they were 2x3 in some cases, since you'll always have an extra line you can't fill with houses, unless you use 3x3.
2013-06-04, 11:11 PM
Stereo
Re: Monster Life Housing Guide
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Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon
you kinda have to compare the 3x3 houses as if they were 2x3 in some cases, since you'll always have an extra line you can't fill with houses, unless you use 3x3.
That reminds me, I found a better strategy for packing 2x2s in once I found out about teh 'monsters + 1' empty square requirement.
My current layout is 8 3x3s and 63 2x2s, which if I went all-out for max storage would be 700*8 + 360*63 = 28280 (I actually have fewer 2x2s to make room for aesthetic items and the barn.) This leaves 12 unused spaces, enough for my 11 monsters.
If you put 3x3s down one side only, you can fit in 4 3x3s and 71 2x2s for 700*4 + 360*71 = 28360. This leaves 16 unused spaces -- an advantage of 4 extra spaces to use on aesthetic items (cannons) bumping up the effectiveness of every other building for free. You also have 75 instead of 71 buildings, so those aesthetic bonuses are worth that little bit more. With this strategy, you're only treating 12 spaces as 'unusable without 3x3s'.
I marked the layout in on my spreadsheet; it's on a third tab marked Best 19x19 layout. I was too lazy to mark all the 2x2s so hopefully it's clear how I mean it.
FWIW with 70+ buildings, removing a 2x2 to place 4 cannons is always a good idea in terms of max waru storage until you hit the aesthetic cap (99999, or 31 cannons). Premium buildings have higher aesthetic bonuses and can reduce that number, and aren't worth replacing anyway cause of their huge storage capacity.
2013-06-04, 11:23 PM
ShinkuDragon
Re: Monster Life Housing Guide
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Originally Posted by Stereo
That reminds me, I found a better strategy for packing 2x2s in once I found out about teh 'monsters + 1' empty square requirement.
My current layout is 8 3x3s and 63 2x2s, which if I went all-out for max storage would be 700*8 + 360*63 = 28280 (I actually have fewer 2x2s to make room for aesthetic items and the barn.) This leaves 12 unused spaces, enough for my 11 monsters.
If you put 3x3s down one side only, you can fit in 4 3x3s and 71 2x2s for 700*4 + 360*71 = 28360. This leaves 16 unused spaces -- an advantage of 4 extra spaces to use on aesthetic items (cannons) bumping up the effectiveness of every other building for free. You also have 75 instead of 71 buildings, so those aesthetic bonuses are worth that little bit more.
I marked the layout in on my spreadsheet; it's on a third tab marked Best 19x19 layout. I was too lazy to mark all the 2x2s so hopefully it's clear how I mean it.
FWIW with 70+ buildings, removing a 2x2 to place 4 cannons is always a good idea in terms of max waru storage until you hit the aesthetic cap (99999, or 31 cannons). Premium buildings have higher aesthetic bonuses and can reduce that number, and aren't worth replacing anyway cause of their huge storage capacity.
i was thinking if replacing your 2x2 buildings with low storage for big storage 3x3 buildings would be a good idea while sleeping, but from comparing the 3x3 buildings with the 2x2 that comes the next level, it seems it's a terrible idea
holy crap those cannons. i hadn't seen how much beauty they added, of course, NX-only, has anyone seen any Decor item in the special shop?
2013-06-04, 11:52 PM
Chilly
Re: Monster Life Housing Guide
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Originally Posted by Stereo
-Snip- Great Information! -Snip-
My brother hypothesized that any farm with an odd dimension (17X17, 19X19, etc.) could maximize farm space and minimize use of 3X3 by staggering 3X3 buildings in the area where both horizontal and vertical oddness lie i.e. the longer strips of farm where the House does not occupy. By doing so, he was able to "perfect" a 19X19 farm such that there are 0 unused squares, not even for aesthetics.
His layout is specific for farms with 12 (or fewer) monsters as it leaves exactly 13 for the required open spaces, filling the rest with 3 3X3 buildings and 74 2X2 buildings. He is currently working on arranging the 3X3 in such a way to completely replace them with two 2X2, but I don't really think it is possible. If that isn't possible, he wants to at least arrange the 3X3 so during his playtime, he can temporarily replace them with two 2X2 for extra Waru and replace them with 3X3 while away/asleep.
I warn you, it isn't pretty, quite ugly to be honest, especially down the 3X3 diagonal, but I think it might be the most efficient you can get under those er specific circumstances. Farm Name: Snowfield.
Note: Cannons replacing buildings would likely make it better, but he has no intentions of spending NX, not unless there is a sale and only after farm expansions.
2013-06-05, 12:05 AM
Niernen
Re: Monster Life Housing Guide
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Originally Posted by Narthus
I totally agree with this. The 3x3 and 4x4 houses (regardless of gem-bought or not) are not that efficient when it comes to waru generation, in comparison to just amassing the highest tier 2x2 houses. If we compare 4 Tip-Top Balloon Shops to a Shinsoo's Nest, this is what we get for 16 Squares:
4X Tip-Top Balloon: 140 Waru per 10 min., 12,000 Waru Storage, and 1,600 Aesthetic Points
Shinsoo Nest: 87 Waru per 10 min., 7,000 Waru Storage, and 2,000 Aesthetic Points
Shinsoo's only wins in the Aesthetic Points department, but for 16 squares of land, it's not as waru-efficient. Honestly, Tip-Top Balloon looks like the BEST-IN-GAME property to me at the moment. The best thing to do is save up 250k warus, for every time Tip-Top Balloon shows up in special shop. I really see no point (in the long run) to buy the other 2x2 properties after level 20.
When looking at decor, the Cannon looks like the BEST-IN-GAME decor item to me as well, when bought en-masse. It's a 1x1 item that dwarfs everything else when bought in multiples.
16 Cannons vs. 1 Elluel Rune Tree - 16 Squares
16 Cannons = 51200 Aesthetic Points
1 Elluel Rune Tree = 13000 Aesthetic Points
Let me point out a few thing:
If you buy the TTB from the special shop for 250k, you will spend over a month paying it off, which is in no way efficient use of warus. Yes, 4 TTB are better than one sinshoo's nest, hower they cost 4 times more. Sinshoo costs 23 gems for 4x4, or 1.4375 gems per tile. 4 TTB taking the same space cost 48 gems, or 3 gems per tile, over twice as expensive. So, yes, if you have money to burn get the TTB shop, but is much cheaper to fill your farm with nests. Besides, Sinshoo's Nest looks much better :cool: And the extra aesthetic does help.
2013-06-05, 01:11 AM
Stereo
Re: Monster Life Housing Guide
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Originally Posted by Chilly
My brother hypothesized that any farm with an odd dimension (17X17, 19X19, etc.) could maximize farm space and minimize use of 3X3 by staggering 3X3 buildings in the area where both horizontal and vertical oddness lie i.e. the longer strips of farm where the House does not occupy. By doing so, he was able to "perfect" a 19X19 farm such that there are 0 unused squares, not even for aesthetics.
His layout is specific for farms with 12 (or fewer) monsters as it leaves exactly 13 for the required open spaces, filling the rest with 3 3X3 buildings and 74 2X2 buildings. He is currently working on arranging the 3X3 in such a way to completely replace them with two 2X2, but I don't really think it is possible. If that isn't possible, he wants to at least arrange the 3X3 so during his playtime, he can temporarily replace them with two 2X2 for extra Waru and replace them with 3X3 while away/asleep.
I warn you, it isn't pretty, quite ugly to be honest, especially down the 3X3 diagonal, but I think it might be the most efficient you can get under those er specific circumstances. Farm Name: Snowfield.
Note: Cannons replacing buildings would likely make it better, but he has no intentions of spending NX, not unless there is a sale and only after farm expansions.
Ah, I see what you mean... I've added two such layouts to the spreadsheet, which distribute the unused squares differently (I like the top one more cause it puts the empty squares all in one place). Unfortunately for your brother I don't see any way to put two of the 3x3s touching each other.
EDIT: And another variation to help people who want more than 11 squares, but not exactly 4 more.
I haven't seen Shinsoo's nest in the Special shop... the best I've seen in terms of waru cost per maxW storage is the Yellow Submarine, which costs 450k for 7000 storage - the TTB is 300k for 3000 storage (though, obviously, you get another 1080 storage in the 3 slots around it if you have Ariant shops, 1350 if you're up to Santas)
