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SwordStaker
My Kanna at 202 has 46k hp
Can you say/show what bonuses you have? Because that's pretty high. I don't think Beast Tamers will get that even in Bear guardian mode without a lottttt of funding and % HP.
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Pearly
Hmm, anyone with high lvl kanna here can compare your HP with beast tamer?
My kanna has 10k HP at lvl 120. She doesn't have any %HP link skills. Just few hundreds extra HP from equips (500 HP or so probably). She does have 2.1k extra HP from char card, but that would still make her HP close to 8k without it, which would be much more than what the BT in the video have when she reaches lvl 170.
My kanna has almost 51k hp and 60k buffed with dhb. I can easily see tamer swapping to cat and casting the field + gorgeous shock (that paw thing?) then swapping back to bear to pretty much wreck everything. A funded tamer will definitely be a force to be reckoned with for sure.
EDIT: Just saw ur response to staker.
Emp 3 set gives my kanna 30% hp
RA 2 set gives 20% hp
random pot gives me 8%
and IF nexon fixed the mp% to hp% on pot (which i kinda suspect they did) then I have an additional 23% hp.
58% hp without mp counted and 81% with.
With dhb thats like 98% and 121% total % respectively.
If only the 40% mp from dhb was added to hp as well... 80% hp *drools
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Hmm, my 120 kanna is literally wearing junks.
@gymleaders:
I see. Is your survivability good enough with 18k HP?
@people with >40k HP
OMG. How did you guys get so much HP for a mage? :f6:
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Pearly
Hmm, my 120 kanna is literally wearing junks.
@gymleaders:
I see. Is your survivability good enough with 18k HP?
@people with >40k HP
OMG. How did you guys get so much HP for a mage? :f6:
It's because Kanna's beginner skill transfers all +mana stats to +health stats, and Kanna has decent base HP so % HP scales well, and naturally if you get good equips/equipment set effects, you'll get a good chunk of % HP from those also.
But yeah my survivability is fine with 18k HP. Most bosses do % health damage anyways, so the only real issue I have with HP is at HoH, which really isn't an issue anyways. But I am the epitome of unfunded, and I don't want to equip my CRA items or any other items I've collected because I'm obviously saving for Beast Tamer.
I think Beast Tamer shouldn't have major survivability issues... Maybe unfunded ones might.
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Gymleaders
It's because Kanna's beginner skill transfers all +mana stats to +health stats, and Kanna has decent base HP so % HP scales well, and naturally if you get good equips/equipment set effects, you'll get a good chunk of % HP from those also.
But yeah my survivability is fine with 18k HP. Most bosses do % health damage anyways, so the only real issue I have with HP is at HoH, which really isn't an issue anyways. But I am the epitome of unfunded, and I don't want to equip my CRA items or any other items I've collected because I'm obviously saving for Beast Tamer.
I think Beast Tamer shouldn't have major survivability issues... Maybe unfunded ones might.
Yeah. Most bosses do %HP. I was worried about training, seeing how that BT at time temple literally kept eating HP potion every time the whale hits him :f7:
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Gymleaders
Can you say/show what bonuses you have? Because that's pretty high. I don't think Beast Tamers will get that even in Bear guardian mode without a lottttt of funding and % HP.
SS Effect. Dark Knight card effect. Kaiser Link level 2. Empress set. Cannoner skill link level 2.
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In DPS terms, would this make an efficient bosser in general? It seems Bobo is the only thing keeping her intact with damage while the Jaguar dude has a lot of CC.
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Nion
In DPS terms, would this make an efficient bosser in general? It seems Bobo is the only thing keeping her intact with damage while the Jaguar dude has a lot of CC.
While Beast Tamer probably won't be on par with, say, Kaiser, she'll still probably do alright damage in the long run.
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Vaudevillian
While Beast Tamer probably won't be on par with, say, Kaiser, she'll still probably do alright damage in the long run.
Yeah, just looked over the bear stats. It's pretty crazy.
Assuming you have links(at lv 2) and cards(S) and the like:
76% crit from skills + 5% base + phantom =96% crit
66% hp from skills + 10% cannon + 15% kaiser = 91% hp (DHB +40%)
20% boss link (assuming 20% is lv 2) 11% skill + 15% ds link + 9% card set (i think?) + 3/5% DA card + 3/4% kanna (i have 5% and 4% so i included em) = 61/64% boss
50% pdr from skills(30+20) + 30% leafre + 15% luminous = 95% add or like... 66% mult
20% matk
With Concentrated strike:
%matk becomes 55% total
crit hits 100%
This looks quite promising(unless i goofed somewhere).
EDIT: Didn't include 15% hp from hypers
10% crit from hypers.
She has 100% crit clean...
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Singaporean
Yeah, just looked over the bear stats. It's pretty crazy.
Assuming you have links(at lv 2) and cards(S) and the like:
76% crit from skills + 5% base + phantom =96% crit
66% hp from skills + 10% cannon + 15% kaiser = 91% hp (DHB +40%)
20% boss link (assuming 20% is lv 2) 11% skill + 15% ds link + 9% card set (i think?) + 3/5% DA card + 3/4% kanna (i have 5% and 4% so i included em) = 61/64% boss
50% pdr from skills(30+20) + 30% leafre + 15% luminous = 95% add or like... 66% mult
20% matk
With Concentrated strike:
%matk becomes 55% total
crit hits 100%
This looks quite promising(unless i goofed somewhere).
EDIT: Didn't include 15% hp from hypers
10% crit from hypers.
She has 100% crit clean...
Her, what I seem to be main attack in Bear form, Bear's hammer attack has 1800% damage which seems pretty good... It's not a super slow attack either. Two hammer hits, each hitting four times, which is 8 times per attack, 225% damage each = 1800%. That's pretty darn good. For comparison, Angelic Buster's Trinity is about 1060% damage. I think Beast Tamer will be pretty good damage wise. Someone should do some damage calculations!
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looks like beast tamer is coming out on the 22 in jms now, hopefully this means they will be making some changes to beast tamer. The changes I hope they make is making it so each animal gets 3 sp and that passives for the animals are still active even when you switch to a different animal, maybe to make it less op when you switch to a different animal the other passives are still active but only give 50% of the effect.
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No one is goig to mention the "wild hunter" in the room? :f3:
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So I looked over this class. I'm really wondering what's up with Eagle, since it seems rather garbage compared to the other 3 forms. Otherwise, seems interesting.
Also, lol at Beast Tamer furry debates from the other thread.
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My sides.
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AzureDarkness
looks like beast tamer is coming out on the 22 in jms now, hopefully this means they will be making some changes to beast tamer. The changes I hope they make is making it so each animal gets 3 sp and that passives for the animals are still active even when you switch to a different animal, maybe to make it less op when you switch to a different animal the other passives are still active but only give 50% of the effect.
They'd basically have to remake the class then since so many skills overlap.
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That video was very... Japanesque.
http://youtu.be/BBj0mlQhRqU
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Maplestory facebook just updated their cover photo to Beast Tamer.
http://puu.sh/6edNP/bb9c737014.jpg
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seeeems i'm a tad late on this one
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This is definitely coming next week, right?
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A little bit off-topic but what about cs and db revamp?
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Razmos
I love you. :love:
That video was very... Japanesque.
-video-
So now we have team rocket esque villains.