Upcoming Changes to Nexon Legal Policies

http://maplestory.nexon.net/news//5226/

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Originally Posted by Nexon

Hi Maplers,

Several of Nexon America’s legal policies, including our Code of Conduct, Terms of Service and End User License Agreement will be updated on Monday, Dec. 14,Â*in order to keep them in line with all of the latest content and features we offer. While the existing policies will remain in place until Dec. 14, we’ve posted the new policy documents in full here in advance.


For your convenience, below is a summary of the Nexon America legal policies affected by this update:

1. Code of Conduct
2. EULA
3. Idea Submissions Policy
4. IP Infringement Policy
5. Permissible Uses of Nexon Content Policy
6. Privacy Policy
7. Terms of Sale
8. Terms of Service
9. User Generated Content Policy

Please contact Customer Support with any questions or concerns.

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TOS Update.

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3.3 No Data Mining.

You agree that you will not (a) obtain or attempt to obtain any information from any part of the Service using any method not expressly permitted by Nexon; (b) intercept, examine or otherwise observe any proprietary communications protocol used by any part of the Service, whether through the use of a network analyzer, packet sniffer or other device; (c) use any third-party software to collect information from or through any part of the Service, including without limitation information about your character, any account registered to you, virtual items, other players, or other Service-related data.

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Well pineapple.

Rip maplefm? Then again you can owl for cash items so.. guess it's not that huge of a loss.

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You will not download, copy, reproduce, republish, upload, post, transmit, modify, distribute or publicly display any of the content or information contained in our games or interactive services except as expressly authorized by the agreements between you and Nexon.

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Wow we have a NDA now?

Wow, Nexon REALLY pineappleing hates Southperry, eh?

That specific rule about no datamining wasn't there before?

kek, no more youtube videos, maplestory is secret of state now.

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Originally Posted by Pastewrong

Wow we have a NDA now?

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Yeah, they used an NDA for Dirty Bomb and GITS: First Assault.

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Originally Posted by Spadow

That specific rule about no datamining wasn't there before?

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It was previously implied from their Code of Conduct in the ToU and the EULA but now they've made it clear.

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Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon

kek, no more youtube videos, maplestory is secret of state now.

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https://support.nexon.net/hc/en-us/a...-and-Streaming
They still allow you to post videos/streams of Nexon property.


Other changes include: no class-action lawsuits (they can't really enforce this so sue away!), some minor inclusions of Europe/Australia specific stuff, included a note that your data may be stored in countries not within the US, you cannot use Nexon services in countries where the US has a trade embargo with, a UGC policy, an official Idea Submission Policy, an official policy on VOD/Streams for Nexon property, any disputes must be sent to Nexon informally 30 days before initiating any arbitration or court proceedings.

They can't enforce the data mining rule... if you don't play the game you don't have to agree to the terms of service - and even then, what will they do? Lol file a C&D? Data mining isn't illegal. Good luck there Nexon. They just want a clear excuse to ban people on their forums for posting extracted data if they so please.

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Originally Posted by Justin

They can't enforce the data mining rule... if you don't play the game you don't have to agree to the terms of service - and even then, what will they do? Lol file a C&D? Data mining isn't illegal. Good luck there Nexon. They just want a clear excuse to ban people on their forums for posting extracted data if they so please.

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As soon as you install the game, regardless of whether or not you registered for an account or played the game, you've accepted the EULA. The license agreement says you can't data mine.

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Intercept, emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Nexon, or its designees, in any way, including, without limitation, through protocol emulation, tunneling, packet sniffing, modifying or adding components to the Software, use of a “data mining” utility program to intercept, colled, read or “mine” information generated by the Software, or in any other way utilize a technique now known or hereafter developed that would allow for or otherwise make available unauthorized play of the Game or other use of the Software;

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https://support.nexon.net/hc/en-us/a...greement-EULA-

Doesn't matter - actual laws supercede a meaningless ToS.

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Originally Posted by Justin

They just want a clear excuse to ban people on their forums for posting extracted data if they so please.

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I hope they update my reason for ban to "breaking future ToS"!! ;)

This bit is far more delusional;

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9.6. Equitable Relief.

You acknowledge and agree that due to the unique nature of this Agreement, there can be no adequate remedy at law to compensate Nexon for your breach or threatened breach hereof; that any such breach or threatened breach will allow you or third parties to compete unfairly with Nexon resulting in irreparable harm to Nexon that would be difficult to measure; and, therefore, that upon any such breach or threat thereof, Nexon shall be entitled to seek injunctive and other appropriate equitable relief (without the necessity of proving actual damages, except where prohibited by applicable mandatory laws, or of posting a bond), in addition to whatever remedies it may have at law, hereunder, or otherwise.

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But it's also worth noting;
https://support.nexon.net/hc/en-us/a...-and-Streaming

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It is not okay to take assets from our games (e.g. characters, art, voice, music, items) and distribute those separately.

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Although;

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You will not reverse engineer, packet sniff, decompile or disassemble all or any portion of our games or interactive services

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Left out "unpack" :f3:

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Originally Posted by Eos

This bit is far more delusional;


But it's also worth noting;
https://support.nexon.net/hc/en-us/a...-and-Streaming



Although;


Left out "unpack" :f3:

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In regards to packet sniffing, decompiling, and disassembling, they're specifically referring to the methods used to create private servers.
In effect, they basically reverse engineered the client / server interaction, in order to create a server that the clients can successfully interact with, and route the traffic that the client thinks is going to nexon's official servers, to the private server instead.

Basically they figured out what the client's looking for, data wise, and created something that can supply that information.


It's pretty ingenious, honestly, they don't even need to modify the client data at this point in order to make the client connect properly. It thinks it's connecting to nexon, and it works.

That clause has nothing to do with extractions.

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Originally Posted by MuscleWizard

That clause has nothing to do with extractions.

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That's my point - They left it out entirely.

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use any third-party software to collect information from or through any part of the Service, including without limitation information about your character, any account registered to you, virtual items, other players, or other Service-related data.

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sorry everyone, this was probably my fault. guess I kind of pissed them off with the stuff I was doing. Now it makes sense to me why they changed the HTML formatting for the rankings page a couple months ago lol.

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Originally Posted by xparasite9

sorry everyone, this was probably my fault. guess I kind of pissed them off with the stuff I was doing. Now it makes sense to me why they changed the HTML formatting for the rankings page a couple months ago lol.

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sounds like it's more against maple.fm to me, nexon fu'cking hates that website

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Originally Posted by Marksman Bryan

sounds like it's more against maple.fm to me, nexon pineappleing hates that website

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considering that I was making about uh... over 30,000 requests in a day, per week... could be a toss up between me and them.

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Originally Posted by xparasite9

considering that I was making about uh... 30,000 requests in a day, per week... could be a toss up between me and them.

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Eos downloaded the entire rankings every day while he was running the Time To Level calculator. It never bothered them.
The bit about your character and accounts registered to you sounds like it's aimed at mapler.me or w/e Tyler's social thing was (that has been shut down long ago).
But if you want to take the credit (blame?), enjoy.

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Originally Posted by SaptaZapta

Eos downloaded the entire rankings every day while he was running the Time To Level calculator. It never bothered them.
The bit about your character and accounts registered to you sounds like it's aimed at mapler.me or w/e Tyler's social thing was (that has been shut down long ago).
But if you want to take the credit (blame?), enjoy.

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oh yeah I guess that one makes more sense. weird how it took them so long to create a legal response to that.