CO and WA Legalize Recreational Marijuana
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2079899.html
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The Rocky Mountain High just got a whole lot higher. On Tuesday night, Amendment 64 -- the measure which sought the legalization of marijuana for recreational use by adults -- was passed by Colorado voters, making Colorado the first state to end marijuana prohibition in the United States.
Thoughts?
Edit: Both Colorado and Washington are the first two states to legalize recreational marijuana.
Washington:
http://mynorthwest.com/11/2121970/Wa...ized-marijuana
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Good sh`it.
I still can't believe other states don't want to make money off marijuana, it's like free money.
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Yea I think it is really exciting.
Second term President in office and now a state with legal pot. Who knows where this will go?
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Wish NV would get it legalized. I've been looking at growing it since I have family in CO, WA, OR and CA. But really, until the federal penalties are lifted, the states walk a fine line.
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Holy s'hit. Apparently Washington has legalized recreational use as well.
http://mynorthwest.com/11/2121970/Wa...ized-marijuana
This is crazy.
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So is it 18+ or 21+? Who controls the production? Big Tobacco? And how does this work with getting the economy back together?
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Locked
I still can't believe other states don't want to make money off marijuana, it's like free money.
Can they tax sales when it's Federally illegal? Seems like a fine line...
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VerrKol
Can they tax sales when it's Federally illegal? Seems like a fine line...
They can tax it and regulate it to make money when it's legal. This would save so much time for everyone. People who already smoke pot already do it, why waste time and money prosecuting these people when you can tax it, make it legal and then make money off it for the public interest? That way you can set a legal age to purchase it like tobacco and let criminalization dwindle.
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Locked
They can tax it and regulate it to make money when it's legal. This would save so much time for everyone. People who already smoke pot already do it, why waste time and money prosecuting these people when you can tax it, make it legal and then make money off it for the public interest? That way you can set a legal age to purchase it like tobacco and let criminalization dwindle.
You don't need to convince me; I agree. So basically they're just preparing for if (when ) Congress legalizes it.
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Chazay
So is it 18+ or 21+? Who controls the production? Big Tobacco? And how does this work with getting the economy back together?
It's 21 most likely.
Somewhat off-topic : Hopefully they will legalize it in New Jersey.
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Damnit Iowa... hook me up already!
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Locked
I still can't believe other states don't want to make money off marijuana, it's like free money.
This. From a purely economical standpoint, they could fix a LARGE chunk of our debt by simply taxing this one substance. I don't approve of using it, but again, not everything is about me; this country is in a hole, and the only way to climb out of that hole is with tons of hard cash.
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Flonne
This. From a purely economical standpoint, they could fix a LARGE chunk of our debt by simply taxing this one substance. I don't approve of using it, but again, not everything is about me; this country is in a hole, and the only way to climb out of that hole is with tons of hard cash.
There's a few problems with it though. Although its free money, it's extremely exaggerated. I haven't taken the time to read the specifics but from the comments I'm reading it seems to not be as strict as, let's say california. I mean to be quite frank, the quality of weed would plummit, dealers would still exist to avoid taxes, and the fact their weed will probably be higher quality.
A lot of people refer to the alcohol "error" (that was actually pretty successful) made, but I think, note, think, that alcohol is a lot harder to merchandise than weed.
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KhainiWest
There's a few problems with it though. Although its free money, it's extremely exaggerated. I haven't taken the time to read the specifics but from the comments I'm reading it seems to not be as strict as, let's say california. I mean to be quite frank, the quality of weed would plummit, dealers would still exist to avoid taxes, and the fact their weed will probably be higher quality.
Genetically engineered and Mendelian-prodded variants of marijuana with very high percentages of THC already exists in commercial farms. Corporations already make money off the stuff in this and other countries, this law simply allows for better distribution of an already existing product. I, also, don't know the specifics, but rest-assured, you don't need to worry about quality, science is involved and has been for some time.
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Chilly
Genetically engineered and Mendelian-prodded variants of marijuana with very high percentages of THC already exists in commercial farms. Corporations already make money off the stuff in this and other countries, this law simply allows for better distribution of an already existing product. I, also, don't know the specifics, but rest-assured, you don't need to worry about quality, science is involved and has been for some time.
Rule of thumb is anything mass produced typically comes out in worse quality. I'm not for or against weed, it's not part of my lifestyle, it won't be, legal or not.
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KhainiWest
Rule of thumb is anything mass produced typically comes out in worse quality. I'm not for or against weed, it's not part of my lifestyle, it won't be, legal or not.
Most people don't bother going to the "black market" to buy things that can be purchased in an ordinary grocery store, whether to avoid taxes or to get special quality. Even the small boutique wineries or chocolatiers or whatever have their licenses and pay their taxes.
I don't really see why it would be any different for weed.
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SaptaZapta
Most people don't bother going to the "black market" to buy things that can be purchased in an ordinary grocery store, whether to avoid taxes or to get special quality. Even the small boutique wineries or chocolatiers or whatever have their licenses and pay their taxes.
I don't really see why it would be any different for weed.
Depends how much and how hard it is to get a license, age limitations, and price. Otherwise the blackmarket for moonshine wouldn't exist.
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The fact is that there are more job possibilities to be created with the legalization of marijuana than that of alcohol. Taxes and whatnot aside, alcohol distribution is limited to just the normal company structure of which there is really only one type which is the production and sales of their product. Marijuana on the other hand has dozens more applications than alcohol does ranging from hemp to cannabutter and companies can emerge essentially overnight to overtake those markets so that they can grab premium market share. Marijuana is also more accessible due to ease and volume of production as well as being SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper, allowing those companies to make money much more easily.
Those reasons alone is why legalization should have happened a long time ago if we wanted to bolster the getting out of a deficit situation. Nonetheless, good job to those states. I wonder what my cousins opinion on this is, since he's been distributing weed in colorado for well over a year now.
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Takebacker
The fact is that there are more job possibilities to be created with the legalization of marijuana than that of alcohol. Taxes and whatnot aside, alcohol distribution is limited to just the normal company structure of which there is really only one type which is the production and sales of their product. Marijuana on the other hand has dozens more applications than alcohol does ranging from hemp to cannabutter and companies can emerge essentially overnight to overtake those markets so that they can grab premium market share. Marijuana is also more accessible due to ease and volume of production as well as being SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper, allowing those companies to make money much more easily.
Those reasons alone is why legalization should have happened a long time ago if we wanted to bolster the getting out of a deficit situation. Nonetheless, good job to those states. I wonder what my cousins opinion on this is, since he's been distributing weed in colorado for well over a year now.
Well no matter what it's a step. California was a bad example because it was so goddamn regulated. It cost more to produce than to sell. However these two states seem a little more "go for it". So if their local economies grow at the, what I believe, the exaggerated rate claimed, then it'll definitely give a little more incentive for the fed's to let it go already.