Have we hammered out the intricacies of upgrading to Sweetwater yet?

I desperately need a new weapon so I'm wondering if it'd be better to scroll an Empress/Fafnir and then upgrade or t just find a Sweetwater to upgrade?

I mean, Fafnir and Empress weapons have 10 slots to Sweetwater's 9, so if I scroll an Empress Crossbow to 131 + 80 through scrolls and 5 stars through enhancements, would I have a SW Crossbow with +80 attack, no slots and 5 enhances or what?

We can't actually do it ourselves yet, but Grey posted this last week;

http://www.southperry.net/showthread...72#post1211472

First work on finding a Sweetwater crossbow, since you need that to upgrade anyway.
Hopefully by the time you find one someone will have gotten the upgrade to work, and we'll be wiser as to how it does.

The 10 upgrades will be crammed into the 9 slots of the Sweetwater equipment. There is no way that you will lose any enhancement you made.

Okay, thanks for the answers, but has no one managed to be successful at combining yet or has no one come forth and told us how they've done it?

cannot interact with npc therefore nothing can be done as of yet

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Originally Posted by dowie

cannot interact with npc therefore nothing can be done as of yet

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The anvils drop, you can just use those.

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Originally Posted by Grey

The anvils drop, you can just use those.

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But once you upgrade into Sweetwater, it's permanently untradeable right? So you would have to do the upgrade on the character you want it on?

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Originally Posted by ChronosXIII

But once you upgrade into Sweetwater, it's permanently untradeable right? So you would have to do the upgrade on the character you want it on?

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Yep

How does upgrading work with armor? Do you still lose all the base stats and only get the above average ones? Is upgrading any 140-150 shoulder the same as upgrading a Meister one (9 att/matt)?

From what I've seen, it all works the same way. Base stats don't matter, and it doesn't matter which equip you use. What matters is what you add to the item using scrolls (all carried over), enhancements (-1 star but boosts carry), and potential (rank stays the same but lines reset, nebulite remains).

Following this, tyrants would be terrible items to transpose because they have great base stats and only a few slots (not to mention tyrants are better than their sweetwater equivalents anyway).

It's not that complicated.

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Originally Posted by Jedward

Following this, tyrants would be terrible items to transpose because they have great base stats and only a few slots (not to mention tyrants are better than their sweetwater equivalents anyway).

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No tyrants would be amazing to transpose, but only when they have 10-15 stars. The loss of base stats is made up by the first 3 set effs.

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Originally Posted by Takebacker

No tyrants would be amazing to transpose, but only when they have 10-15 stars. The loss of base stats is made up by the first 3 set effs.

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Man that makes me uncomfortable. So many stats.

Okay, so the best thing to do is find the cheapest shoulder (or other equip) you can find and then transpose it after some chaoses? I assume class doesn't matter because Sweetwater equips are classless.