It says 10% All stats. Does it work like maple warrior(which increases % on your base stats) or potential(which increases % on your base+equip+skill stats)?
Thanks!
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It says 10% All stats. Does it work like maple warrior(which increases % on your base stats) or potential(which increases % on your base+equip+skill stats)?
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by AlanTheMan
you could easily test this with a +10 dex bathrobe.
I don't have the linking skill yet. I'm trying to calculate which links are more beneficial. Can you test it out for me please?
I mean, what exactly are you comparing the Xenon link to? I'm confused as to why you wouldn't get what's considered one of the better links in the game :f6:
It works like potential as far as I am aware.
It's exactly like potential
Cuz I wanna calculate them myself.
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Thanks mates. If it works like potential then i guess it is currently the best one I should get :)
Ehh.. After some calculations, I realized doesn't matter it works like maple warrior or potential the effect is quite similar.
It matters a lot as you start to get funding. My base stats are only a tiny % of my total stats thanks to all the +stat and %statQuote:
Originally Posted by AlanTheMan
Consider if it works like potential, this 10% will be additive, on top of the potential %, which means you don't times your total stats (or if this is the case, this doesn't work like potential).Quote:
Originally Posted by VerrKol
So, is it additive(adds on top of potential%) or multiplicative(times total stats)?
If it is multiplicative then I can get a big boost in range xD
Thanks :)
MW is probably the only exception to the rule. Every other skill and potential stacks additively to each other, and that value is then applied multiplicatively to your base stat.
Hadriel
Thank you very much! This answer is pretty clear and simple. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hadriel
If it works like that. It's not the best one I should get. MW and potential both have similar effect, decent but not great. However multiplicative on final stats will be much better, which is not the case.
Since both MW and pot don't apply multiplicative on your total stats, they don't have a big difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by VerrKol
How MW and pot have similar effect:
For an real instant,
Consider if i have +230% int, 3.4/3.3, only 3.03% more int than the total int before. It's about 90 base int at 3.3x int. There are also boost in luk since luk from equips and skills are counted. The boost will be 0.1*(base+others), which is usually about 200.
However if it works like MW, 10% base stats is about 100 int, which is 100 base int at 3.3x int. 10 base int=33 int=132 luk.
Therefore, in the pot case, has 17 more Net int, which is not so helpful. With 3.3x int, 17 int is only 5 base int.
General trend(for MW disabled):
We know that stats value for jobs except Xenon is S=main*4+secondary, where main=p1*(base1+others1), secondary=p2*(base2+others2).
If it works like MW, after: S=4*p1*(1.1*base1+others1)+p2*(1.1*base2+others2), since base2=4, p2 is also<2, therefore secondary doesn't change, the only changes happens at main.
ΔS=ΔMain=4*p1*(1.1*base1+others1)-4*p1*(base1+others1)=4*p1*(1.1*base1+others1-base1-others1)=4*p1*(0.1*base1)=0.4*p1*base1
If it works like pot, after: S=4*(p1+0.1)*(base1+others1)+(p2+0.1)*(base2+other s2)
ΔS=4*(p1+0.1)*(base1+others1)+(p2+0.1)*(base2+othe rs2)-4*p1*(base1+others1)-p2*(base2+others2)=4*(base1+others1)*(p1+0.1-p1)+(base2+others2)*(p2+0.1-p2)=0.4*(base1+others1)+0.1*(base2+others2)
Now if you set some constant and variables you can draw a graph. You'll find that they're similar most of the time.
Thanks.
Is any other link skill better?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlanTheMan
(Except possibly the 10% damage ones)
I got all the total damage% ones, i.e. kanna and DA, but not yet the ones with boss damage, since I can instant ko all the normal monsters(the strongest normal monster in haven has about 46m hp, which I can instant ko after the reboot updates, assume there are no miss), I only want range to boss. So I still can get my DS and BT to lv2 before leveling my xenon.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaptaZapta
How much %boss damage do you already have?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlanTheMan
Those stack additively too, you know.
Jett link skill as far as I know is multiplied by your potential and %attack so consider spending the 5~10k getting it to a suitable stat range. So give it some thought, only need to level it to 120 for maximum stat variances(up to 35 max per stat).
Yea I know, even it stacks additively it still gives me 5% of base range.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaptaZapta
Actually, hold on, I forgot an important thing. 5% boss damage gives me about 30k range but that's after multiply with boss damage%. However, all stats +10% gives me about 20k range before multiply with boss damage%.
Lol my bad, forgot to calculate the final damage. So apparently 10% all stats is the best one.
:) Thanks for pointing that out(if this is what you meant).
Hum, by the way, I wanna make one of my mule to look good. Does Xenon looks good wearing frozen set? Or should I give frozen set to my Beast Tamer?
Thanks!
It stacks with my potential multiplicatively? Wow.. I tried to search up about Jett link skill but couldn't find much information about it.
They're just flat stats, ain't they? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by fodjgngf
Does it give you stats% or att% ?