[SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY] Season 5 World Championships!
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day 2 was better than day 1 but still pretty meh. Dat genocide tho lol :eek:
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TSM, the only Western team to look insanely bad first 2 group days lol.
They've looked bad since MSI actually with the exception of maybe 2 games.
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TSM, the only Western team to look insanely bad first 2 group days lol.
They've looked bad since MSI actually with the exception of maybe 2 games.
I actually missed the live version of this game and just finished it. Bjerg looked really good minus the poor baron call/positioning. If he had a front line to buy him time there could have been a lot more plays. I also thought Dyrus played much better around his difficulties. Yes he got greedy and caught at bot lane, but otherwise he did a great job with the macro game play which had him so heavily punished at MSI and during the top lane meta shift. The reality is that Olaf just isn't an effective champion without speed boosts from Lulu/Karma/Sivir. he just fell so far behind that he couldn't do anything except run away. I would have liked to see Turtle on Sivir or Dyrus on Fiora for that team comp. I get that he wanted the Vayne v Kog match up, but he kind of hung the early Olaf pick out to dry and threw off the whole pick/ban phase. Combine that with fixing stupid mispositions/catches by Santorin and Lustboy and they've got a real chance.
I think TSMs problems today are much easier to fix than they were. It's weird that a loss makes me feel better about their chances.
You also forgot H2K who looked far worse.
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I actually missed the live version of this game and just finished it. Bjerg looked really good minus the poor baron call/positioning. If he had a front line to buy him time there could have been a lot more plays. I also thought Dyrus played much better around his difficulties. Yes he got greedy and caught at bot lane, but otherwise he did a great job with the macro game play which had him so heavily punished at MSI and during the top lane meta shift. The reality is that Olaf just isn't an effective champion without speed boosts from Lulu/Karma/Sivir. he just fell so far behind that he couldn't do anything except run away. I would have liked to see Turtle on Sivir or Dyrus on Fiora for that team comp. I get that he wanted the Vayne v Kog match up, but he kind of hung the early Olaf pick out to dry and threw off the whole pick/ban phase. Combine that with fixing stupid mispositions/catches by Santorin and Lustboy and they've got a real chance.
I think TSMs problems today are much easier to fix than they were. It's weird that a loss makes me feel better about their chances.
You also forgot H2K who looked far worse.
Bjergsen doing good won't be enough at this kind of stage unfortunately.
The fact that Santorin has literally 0 presence and Dyrus gets no resources is enough for me to say that TSM has no chance making it out of groups especially with a top favored meta like this. ._.
TSM has to either make Bjergsen roam and help out either side lanes or have Turtle on a self sufficient adc to free up Lustboy roaming with Santorin imo..
For H2K, they did have to go against both SKT and EDG which are pretty much SSW level groups of this year's Worlds.
They actually faired pretty decent early-mid game against SKT which is their strength though. :f3:
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Dyrus and Santorin need to get their shit together man. I expected less of this after MSG but holy crap they're still playing the same way. Even Lustboy was really underwhelming. Turtle did okay, Bjergsen crushed lane but had no impact in fights.
Bjerg crushing lane isn't enough. I understand what TSM was doing in that game with the side lane pressure to keep mid free, but nothing really came out of it and they just lost fights like they usually do, mostly because of their execution. TSM can't pick assassins for Bjerg if their frontline does so terribly that they can't survive long enough to put down any CC.
Comparing TSM's side lane roams and TPs with every other team's is kind of sad, because TSM's roams are just poorly executed. The 5-man dive bottom barely slid through. Dyrus' TPs were awful. Hell, it just looked like Dyrus was on tilt from the moment the game started. Their gameplan clearly looked like it was to avoid the laning phase and play the map early, which they did, but somehow Dyrus still fell behind with 2 deaths which were completely his fault. I feel like they all just have one huge mental block on them that they can't get past.
I've been a fan of theirs for three years, all I want this worlds is for TSM to get their shit together.
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My Pick 'Ems are all fucked right now ._.
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The reality is that Olaf just isn't an effective champion without speed boosts from Lulu/Karma/Sivir.
This was true last season. This season we have Black Cleaver, Righteous Glory, and Dead Man's Plate.
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Marin is really good.
Basically this.
It took faker basically one minute to get fb in that olaf game. I was actually laughing when that irelia came in.
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༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ TSM TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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This was true last season. This season we have Black Cleaver, Righteous Glory, and Dead Man's Plate.
BC and DMP sure, but that's a lot of gold before you're allowed to team fight. RG isn't effective stat wise on Olaf and it's become less effective on jungle/support picks.
Still catching up on sat/sun games...
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oh
uhhh...
...༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ C9 TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
EDIT: ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIVE DYRUS YOUR RESPECT ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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chrome
oh
uhhh...
...༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ C9 TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
EDIT: ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIVE DYRUS YOUR RESPECT ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
I swear your energy is like....
:f7:
Welp, so much for my team to win. But I have to admit, their games were amazing to watch. But they got fucked hard against Fnatic oh my god
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Today's games were really good imo.
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Today's games were really good imo.
reward : getting 3-0'd by SKT in the semifinals