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One thing I've never been absolutely sure about:
Example: If a Hero gets 100% more damage from ACA and does 300% x 3 with IS, does this mean that the Hero will be doing 400% x 3?.
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Another example: If a Paladin hits 200% x 3 = 600% with Blast and a charge gives 20% more damage, does the Paladin benefit from charge 60% overall? (660% total)
If Blast hit 100% x 6 = 600% with Blast and a charge gives 20% more damage, does the Paladin benefit from charge 120% overall? (720% total)
Multiply.
he does 100% more damage
normal damage is 100%
100%+100%, he'll do 200% of what he'd normally do.
with IS normally he'd do 300%*3
twice of that (200% of 300%) is 600%*3
So it's all multiplying? I thought it was additive...
Ok that's really simple then... since it's multiplicative you can just multiply the total % of a skill by however much passive buffs give.
Right?
Passive and active buffs. The ones you mentioned, ACA and charges, are active. The Hero/Pally has to cast them. Passive buffs are those that are always on once you put your points in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephie
Gotcha.
The only thing that was ever additive was critical hits before BB for non-mages.
And airborne damage bonus (Final Toss, Upper Stab, Charge Drive), which still are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shidoshi
Just to clarify something from what some people said
The following is a somewhat similar situation but it's additive and not multiplicative correct?
"Ancient warding gives 30% damage and spirit surge gives 15% damage. That would be 45% damage and not 49.5% damage correct? And if we add say a 10% nebulite (just for example), it would be 55% damage and not 64.45% right?"
To slightly hijack this thread, are the passive boosts to Muspelheim, Edge Carnival, and Savage Blow from Boomerang Step multiplicative or additive? Also, same question for the 150% extra damage from Dark Sight vs. +150% bonus damage from Killing Points for Assassinate? And even though it's not damage, the buffs to Pickpocket, Meso Guard, and Meso Explosion from Pickpocket?
Ancient Warding + Spirit Surge is additive to each other. They multiply your damage. From what I recall, any total damage is multiplicative against this, but I'd have to double check my own Mercedes later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaasoljoyyx
The only damage bonuses that are additive are the airborne ones. Does the Boomerang Step bonus require the monster to be airborne?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raul
Yes that's what i meant. To the damage formula they're multiplicative. But for individual bonuses stacking they're always additive.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeTang
Thank you.
Have you tested this or gotten someone to test it?Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeTang
I would test it but I cannot get on KMS and likely will not be able to get on any time in the foreseeable future.
Also, last time I checked Meso Guard and Pickpocket do not include damage.
Hi all the shadowers that have been a shadower before you would like to say that it is indeed multiplicative!
Oh and the damage from Killing Points for Assassinate too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Locked
I bet all the shadowers who have ever existed before me have had a lot of success testing something that's been in-game for 3 months and hasn't hit GMS, which is where everyone here who has a Shadower besides Tay plays.
implying it won't be multiplicative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raul
It's fairly obvious it is due to patterns and consistency. Go nuts and test it yourself.
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Originally Posted by Locked
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Originally Posted by Raul