So, I plan to get above the 50-60k clean range. I'm currently at 19-28k clean. Thing is, I am not sure what to improve on first:
My weapon: 154 epic Agares PA (Enhanced twice and u/h) and the potential is pretty lame :f7:
Or, my equips: 54% total str. 3% str equips: eye (kenta), shoulder (silent crusade), hat (targa), belt (escape pq belt). 6%: Cape (common lv 75 cape), Gloves (110 warrior gloves), Top (lv 100 warrior top) and Shoes (lv 100 warrior shoes). 9%: Earring (Half-earrings) and bottom (110 warrior bottom). I guess the last thing worth mentioning are all 3 evo rings + abr and 120 warrior symbol.
For some people, I heard that weapon must come first but I see these 12% top/bottom or earrings that are affordable for me. Not really sure what to do first. :/
2012-05-10, 08:41 PM
Untradeable
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
If the top/bottoms are affordable, upgrade those first. Then i'd upgrade the weapon's potential.
2012-05-10, 09:10 PM
Green4Ever
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
What, facebook group not good enough for you anymore? :f3:
Weapon should come first, but don't go spending billions on it when your other gear is severely lacking (i.e perfect/unique+ weapon when other gear is all 3% stat or less).
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Going from what I know with your budget, I would say cube the Agares to something desirable (I assume you want to begin bossing, so % Boss would be ideal) leave everything at Epic 6% and work your way up from there piece by piece.
Epic Potential Scrolls could be a good idea since they've gone down quite a bit within the past couple weeks.
Glove would be a good place to start. Since I don't think you'll be doing dojo and with Empress equips are readily available in our market now I would say look into buying one of those. GM Scrolls will cost a pretty penny, but it would be quite an upgrade over your current glove. Be sure to potential it before scrolling it, unlike someone else you and I know. :f3:
Earrings are very cheap now due to lots of people mass producing them for money. You should be able to find a pair with 12-15% Str for relatively cheap.
Kenta's and Crusade Shoulder you'll have to cube yourself since they're untradeable. You could look into buying a Raccoon Mask or Spectrum Goggles but those can get expensive fast.
Same with belt if you're going to use an Escape PQ one. People have been mass producing level 40 belts lately too so one of those could be a viable option. They're usually very cheap. 2nd tier isn't very desirable though.
We can probably get you a Chaos Zakum Helm in the near future which would be a step up from a Targa and would be a much better option to cube. Or go for an Empress. Whichever you'd prefer.
Cape is okay for now, but I would work up towards a either a Blackfist with similar % stat or another 3rd tier cape with a bit higher % stat.
Top and shoes I think you can figure it out by now.
Honestly, I think you should look into going for part of the Empress bonus (Helm, Glove, Shoe, possibly Overall). The equips really aren't that expensive here anymore. Just don't go overboard with Chaos scrolling them.
Another thing you could consider is instead of the Warrior Symbol (I assume it's the Shiny Warrior Symbol with 3 attack), start doing Monster Park every few days for the Mustache. It's a few easy attack and is free.
2012-05-10, 10:57 PM
Icedemontrihorn
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
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Originally Posted by Green4Ever
What, facebook group not good enough for you anymore? :f3:
I wanted to post here for the first time. :/
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Weapon should come first, but don't go spending billions on it when your other gear is severely lacking (i.e perfect/unique+ weapon when other gear is all 3% stat or less).
I guess I can start from there. I'll wait until I get more to cube to unique stats. (going to be hard when I see 12% earrings for 400m)
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Lots of text so putting it in a spoiler.
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Going from what I know with your budget, I would say cube the Agares to something desirable (I assume you want to begin bossing, so % Boss would be ideal) leave everything at Epic 6% and work your way up from there piece by piece.
Epic Potential Scrolls could be a good idea since they've gone down quite a bit within the past couple weeks.
Glove would be a good place to start. Since I don't think you'll be doing dojo and with Empress equips are readily available in our market now I would say look into buying one of those. GM Scrolls will cost a pretty penny, but it would be quite an upgrade over your current glove. Be sure to potential it before scrolling it, unlike someone else you and I know. :f3:
Earrings are very cheap now due to lots of people mass producing them for money. You should be able to find a pair with 12-15% Str for relatively cheap.
Kenta's and Crusade Shoulder you'll have to cube yourself since they're untradeable. You could look into buying a Raccoon Mask or Spectrum Goggles but those can get expensive fast.
Same with belt if you're going to use an Escape PQ one. People have been mass producing level 40 belts lately too so one of those could be a viable option. They're usually very cheap. 2nd tier isn't very desirable though.
We can probably get you a Chaos Zakum Helm in the near future which would be a step up from a Targa and would be a much better option to cube. Or go for an Empress. Whichever you'd prefer.
Cape is okay for now, but I would work up towards a either a Blackfist with similar % stat or another 3rd tier cape with a bit higher % stat.
Top and shoes I think you can figure it out by now.
Honestly, I think you should look into going for part of the Empress bonus (Helm, Glove, Shoe, possibly Overall). The equips really aren't that expensive here anymore. Just don't go overboard with Chaos scrolling them.
Another thing you could consider is instead of the Warrior Symbol (I assume it's the Shiny Warrior Symbol with 3 attack), start doing Monster Park every few days for the Mustache. It's a few easy attack and is free.
A lotta' stuff but I guess I can follow this. The empress stuff though....I might get the helm, cape and gloves when I can afford it. For now though, I'll worry about the czak first and then go get the empress stuff once those potentials become helpful.
2012-05-10, 11:01 PM
Green4Ever
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
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Originally Posted by Icedemontrihorn
cape
Should mention the instructors only drop this in recipe form, meaning you basically have to craft it yourself if you want one. It's also incredibly rare to even have one drop, meaning it's going to be expensive.
It's also expensive to craft:
Lionheart Battle Cape (Lionheart Battle Cape Recipe) x1
- Dream Fragment x200
- Superior Abrasive x10
- Magic Powder (Purple) x10
- Superior Item Crystal x15
2012-05-10, 11:30 PM
Icedemontrihorn
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
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Originally Posted by Green4Ever
Should mention the instructors only drop this in recipe form, meaning you basically have to craft it yourself if you want one. It's also incredibly rare to even have one drop, meaning it's going to be expensive.
It's also expensive to craft:
Lionheart Battle Cape (Lionheart Battle Cape Recipe) x1
- Dream Fragment x200
- Superior Abrasive x10
- Magic Powder (Purple) x10
- Superior Item Crystal x15
You say this right when I'm about to sleep and before you're going to go empress.
:f7: *thinks to self* Next time....next time.
Oh well, going to start mp'ing to extract equips for superior item crystals. Idk about dream fragments. I'll look into that later. >.>
2012-05-12, 05:03 AM
Polantaris
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
If Dream Fragments are anywhere near as expensive in GMS as they are in JMS, you're going to be spending either years grinding (Because they drop less than Time Fragments, which already have a low drop rate), or billions for them. In JMS they're up to something like 11m each, sometimes more.
That's not including the recipe, which can cost as much.
My cape cost me 2.7b in JMS, just to put the costs into perspective. Frags were 6m each when I bought mine (gone up a lot since), which totals 1.2b, and the cape recipe cost me 1.5b itself.
If you can afford it though, the buff is great if you don't already have a broken potential cape and have the rest of the set.
2012-05-12, 06:00 AM
ShinkuDragon
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
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Originally Posted by Polantaris
If Dream Fragments are anywhere near as expensive in GMS as they are in JMS, you're going to be spending either years grinding (Because they drop less than Time Fragments, which already have a low drop rate), or billions for them. In JMS they're up to something like 11m each, sometimes more.
That's not including the recipe, which can cost as much.
My cape cost me 2.7b in JMS, just to put the costs into perspective. Frags were 6m each when I bought mine (gone up a lot since), which totals 1.2b, and the cape recipe cost me 1.5b itself.
If you can afford it though, the buff is great if you don't already have a broken potential cape and have the rest of the set.
scania recipes go for about... 1 B each i think? and 10M the frag.
2012-05-12, 04:45 PM
Polantaris
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
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Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon
scania recipes go for about... 1 B each i think? and 10M the frag.
So he's looking at at least 3b for a cape, which is probably still expensive even in GMS.
2012-05-12, 07:45 PM
Taiketo
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
I can't believe recipes are 1b in Scania. They're frequently under 200m in Broa.
Our dream fragments are still 5m+ though.
2012-05-12, 10:44 PM
Icedemontrihorn
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
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Originally Posted by Taiketo
I can't believe recipes are 1b in Scania. They're frequently under 200m in Broa.
Our dream fragments are still 5m+ though.
It's 8m the last time I've checked in gali. 1.6b......I'll try not to worry too much about that for the next 6 months when I can actually afford that many. :/
2012-05-13, 12:04 AM
Green4Ever
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
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Originally Posted by Icedemontrihorn
It's 8m the last time I've checked in gali. 1.6b......I'll try not to worry too much about that for the next 6 months when I can actually afford that many. :/
Also doesn't help that the only recipe I've seen so far was a Bowman one.
2012-05-13, 01:09 PM
Bomber
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
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Originally Posted by Taiketo
I can't believe recipes are 1b in Scania. They're frequently under 200m in Broa.
Our dream fragments are still 5m+ though.
@ShinkuDragonI've been in Scania for a month and not once have a seen a cape recipe for 1b. If anything 500m or less.
And I've seen fully crafted capes for 1.7b or less.
Edit: This thread makes me glad I got an extremely lucky break and got my lionheart cape(no recipe) for 130m. :f3:
2012-05-13, 03:58 PM
ShinkuDragon
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
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Originally Posted by Bomber
@ShinkuDragonI've been in Scania for a month and not once have a seen a cape recipe for 1b. If anything 500m or less.
And I've seen fully crafted capes for 1.7b or less.
Edit: This thread makes me glad I got an extremely lucky break and got my lionheart for 130m. :f3:
it's weird, mage ones were like 700~900M a month back, then they deflated, believe it or not the cape recipes change price pretty randomly.
2012-05-14, 10:39 AM
Phoenix
Re: What to upgrade: Weapon or non-weapon equips?
All the cape recipes are pretty much under 200m now in Scania (I've only seen BM and Mage higher at like 300), with Empress itself dropping them frequently and being hacked.