Regarding Pinnacle Scrolls/Lucky Day Scrolls/Diligence %Scroll Success

Might have been answered somewhere before but regarding pinnacle scrolls from the unleashed shop, do those fall under the 'Special Scrolls Excluded List' when using a Lucky Day or Diligence + % Scroll Success Rate? Before i go through with wasting all these free Lucky Days ;_;

Thanks !

it seem to be special scrolls excluded list

cuz I pass 1/12 scroll .... using lucky day scroll 12 x and I have max diligence... there no way I can fail 12 time in 40%
it most likely 20%

im having huge bad luck or what lol

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Originally Posted by Question

it seem to be special scrolls excluded list

cuz I pass 1/12 scroll .... using lucky day scroll 12 x and I have max diligence... there no way I can fail 12 time in 40%
it most likely 20%

im having huge bad luck or what lol

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I failed 18 50% unleashed Scrolls in a row...

We don't entirely know the truth due to bad luck like Question. All we know so far is that the 90% Advanced Potential Scroll is considered a special scroll, so it may not consider the Pinnacle scroll to be one.

Used a Pinnacle scroll with Lucky & Max Diligence and it passed the first time. Haven't scrolled heavy like Question though. It could really be great luck on my end.

So far, most scrolls that are special are potential or enhancement. There are a few others, but I dont think pinnacle scrolls are one.

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Originally Posted by Question

it seem to be special scrolls excluded list

cuz I pass 1/12 scroll .... using lucky day scroll 12 x and I have max diligence... there no way I can fail 12 time in 40%
it most likely 20%

im having huge bad luck or what lol

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I'm 2/5 on max diligence + lucky day, 0/2 on +5% diligence + lucky day, 2/6 on no diligence + lucky day. Oh and 1/2 on no diligence + no lucky day on hearts.


Out of weapon scrolls now but I'll get 4 or 6 more successes on max diligence chars using Guardian + Lucky + Shied + Ward in a couple of weeks.

edit: err I mean 2-3 more, I only have 3 max diligence chars lol

Most of the time my 50%s work on characters with max diligence. I've failed nearly 12+ in a row on mules where they have lvl 0 traits, both are using lucky day scrolls though.

@Locked; Can you provide any light on this? I told steve (the OP) to make this thread and I remember you had a list of scrolls that weren't affected. I believe this was possible as the extractions indicated which ones were special and which ones weren't.

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Originally Posted by Kaasoljoyyx

@Locked; Can you provide any light on this? I told steve (the OP) to make this thread and I remember you had a list of scrolls that weren't affected. I believe this was possible as the extractions indicated which ones were special and which ones weren't.

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No.

Special Scrolls met the criteria of 1) Not being in KMS, 2) Didn't follow the simple scroll formula (% chance to add N stats).

Here's an idea:
I've used a protection scroll on a weapon with zero enhancements and it wasn't used with the 100% AEE. I would think Lucky Days would work the same way; not getting used if it won't have an effect.

Someone could try using a Lucky Day on something and using a potential or enhancement scroll and see if it gets used? Not that it really proves anything, would make me think it works though.

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Originally Posted by Marksman Bryan

Here's an idea:
I've used a protection scroll on a weapon with zero enhancements and it wasn't used with the 100% AEE. I would think Lucky Days would work the same way; not getting used if it won't have an effect.

Someone could try using a Lucky Day on something and using a potential or enhancement scroll and see if it gets used? Not that it really proves anything, would make me think it works though.

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That means clean slates are not special scrolls

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Originally Posted by sweetpapaya

That means clean slates are not special scrolls

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That's diligence. Diligence doesn't work on slates but lucky day do (or at least they get consumed).

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Originally Posted by MountLag

That's diligence. Diligence doesn't work on slates but lucky day do (or at least they get consumed).

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oh oops, My mistake :f2:

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Originally Posted by sweetpapaya

That means clean slates are not special scrolls

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I feel sure clean slates are not special scrolls. I used bunches (probably more than 25) of lucky day scrolls with clean slate 10% and 20% and it really did seem to improve the chance of working by 10%.

I haven't used enough of the new 50%s with lucky day scrolls to be able to tell if lucky day scroll is really working or not. Kinda didn't want to "waste" the lucky day scrolls. And overall my 50%s worked way more often than 50%, maybe 70% of the time, so thanks to you unlucky ones that brought my odds up. :f2: (And I probably used 50 of them so far, so this isn't a just a little bit lucky for a few scrolls.)

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Originally Posted by LittlePrincess

I feel sure clean slates are not special scrolls. I used bunches (probably more than 25) of lucky day scrolls with clean slate 10% and 20% and it really did seem to improve the chance of working by 10%.

I haven't used enough of the new 50%s to be able to tell if it's really working or not. Kinda didn't want to "waste" the lucky day scrolls.

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Special scrolls are unaffected by diligence only. Lucky days don't say anything about special scrolls but diligence does.

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Originally Posted by MountLag

Special scrolls are unaffected by diligence only. Lucky days don't say anything about special scrolls but diligence does.

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I thought it said so on the lucky day scroll, something like "this scroll does not effect special scrolls like enhancement or potential" but I can't log into maple now to check.

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Originally Posted by LittlePrincess

I thought it said so on the lucky day scroll, something like "this scroll does not effect special scrolls like enhancement or potential" but I can't log into maple now to check.

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I think I have a pic somewhere.


http://i.imgur.com/q4wmsuS.png

There we go.

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Originally Posted by MountLag

I'm 2/5 on max diligence + lucky day, 0/2 on +5% diligence + lucky day, 2/6 on no diligence + lucky day. Oh and 1/2 on no diligence + no lucky day on hearts.


Out of weapon scrolls now but I'll get 4 or 6 more successes on max diligence chars using Guardian + Lucky + Shied + Ward in a couple of weeks.

edit: err I mean 2-3 more, I only have 3 max diligence chars lol

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I scrolled some more. 1/6 max diligence + lucky day, 1/7 no diligence + lucky day.

Can't tell if it's just bad luck or if something's really going wrong but oh well.

edit: did some more, 1/13 no diligence + lucky day

edit: another 2 scrolls, 1/2 with max diligence + lucky day

Grand totals so far
max diligence + lucky (40%?): 4/13
5% diligence + lucky (35%?): 0/2
no diligence + lucky (30%?): 4/26
no diligence (20%): 1/2