Nexon Petition for a transparent review & appeal system

Re-Posting here for anyone who hasn't seen it yet;

http://www.change.org/petitions/nexo...-appeal-system

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Originally Posted by Petition

People invest time, money and effort into a game and it's completely inappropriate and unprofessional in this day and age for a company to block an account without any explanation and no appeal, simply replying that they have proof that they won't release for privacy reasons even to the very person who's been impacted by their sanctions.

Customers have a right to know the specifics of what they're accused of and the evidence against them in order to make a competent appeal. For an American division of a company to fail to recognize Presumption of innocence as a fundamental human right is shameful.

Providing evidence should reduce the number of duplicate customer contacts, give a better customer experience and provide a level of transparency more on par with with the policies of other modern game production companies.

A simple change of the Terms of Service stating that in the event of account suspension the company and it's representatives reserve the right to make public any and all evidence they deem appropriate to justify the actions they took would be sufficient and is more than fair.

Video evidence could be uploaded to a dedicated YouTube channel where their viewership is monetized instead of stored internally at cost to the company with very little change to existing procedures. More personal and private information can be provided to the customer directly during appeals through the ticketing system.

No one should be tried and executed anonymously and/or without evidence or specifics of their crime and this is what the current policies amount to. It may just be video game characters that are getting executed but those characters can be representative of years of investment by their owner and should not be ripped away with callous disregard for the actual human element. That's un-American, that's uncivilized and that's unnecessary, so let's work towards something better.

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While I personally haven't been affected by this, I know it's a big problem for those who have. And in the event that I ever get wrongfully banned, I'd like this change to be in place. Spending 6+ years and a scary amount of money on this game just to lose it all because of a crap customer service would be horrible.

I signed it, but who knows if this will actually bring about change

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Originally Posted by CrazyForDex

but who knows if this will actually bring about change

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What they do is ultimately out of our control at all times; all we can do is express as a community what we feel would be the most customer serving thing for them to do and hope they acknowledge it in some way. The only guarantee we have is that if we say and do nothing they will continue on unchanged.

Signed it, but a 200 signature limit/requirement is a bit low. You'll meet that goal before lunch.

"The worst fight is the one you didn't fight"
Signed in

Signed it.

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Originally Posted by Zelkova

Signed it, but a 200 signature limit/requirement is a bit low. You'll meet that goal before lunch.

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You don't set the goals, Change.org progressively ups them as you meet each milestone. You can see the "Reached 25 signature" and "Reached 100 signature" milestones at the bottom.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."

Even though it might not have an effect, it's always good to try anyways.
Signed.

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Originally Posted by Eos

You don't set the goals, Change.org progressively ups them as you meet each milestone. You can see the "Reached 25 signature" and "Reached 100 signature" milestones at the bottom.

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Ah, didn't know that. Pretty nifty system then!

Would be great if they notice this, or actually take action. Only problem I can see with it is the amount of work required to upload tens of thousands of videos and the possible loss in amount of bans simply because each ban becomes more arduous. So it would all come down to quantity vs. quality.

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Originally Posted by Satellite

Would be great if they notice this, or actually take action. Only problem I can see with it is the amount of work required to upload tens of thousands of videos and the possible loss in amount of bans simply because each ban becomes more arduous. So it would all come down to quantity vs. quality.

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It doesn't need to be arduous if they train their GMs to watch for actual hacking and do a lot more patrols at common hacking spots.

"Make public" is where I got hung up. Good cause, but I'm not supportive of the prospect of everyone being in my business if it involves a ban, especially with the sensitivity the community can have sometimes. I already have a Battle Mage thats accused of being a hacker for, get this, simply being a Battle Mage! I don't have anything to hide, I simply don't want to share that information with the world. Not everyone is mature. (And even if they were, I wouldn't care; Its not really their issue unless I choose to make it so)

Otherwise I agree. I'd much rather have them send me the evidence privately, however.

Signed. I've had a few friends get wrongfully perma'd, and though some of them have been unbanned, others haven't. I really do hope that Nexon goes through with this after you get enough signatures for them to notice, otherwise it's just like they're saying it as a scare tactic for those who were rightfully perma'd.

I signed it and I agree with it completely. But it just doesn't seem like Nexon's directors care. The game is in shambles. Exploit after exploit is released, hack after hack is released, glitch after glitch is uncovered. If the game wasn't so easy to be manipulated, the cases of false bans wouldn't be so prominent. They got more pressing issues to worry about before worrying about being transparent at this point. :pineapple:

Signed it. No matter the outcome it is always good to show Nexon what the userbase feels like.

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Originally Posted by Declaimed

"Make public" is where I got hung up. Good cause, but I'm not supportive of the prospect of everyone being in my business if it involves a ban,

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One way or another they'll be in your business anyway, especially if you get removed from rankings for something even though they later unban you for it. This way at least they'd be able to see why and judge for themselves if it was appropriate or not, rather than just assuming that if Nexon removed you from the rankings you must've hacked. The only time it'd negatively impact you is if it did in fact prove you were hacking, and I don't know anybody who'd shed a tear for you over that being made public knowledge.

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I signed. This injustice must be stopped!

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Originally Posted by Satellite

Would be great if they notice this, or actually take action. Only problem I can see with it is the amount of work required to upload tens of thousands of videos and the possible loss in amount of bans simply because each ban becomes more arduous. So it would all come down to quantity vs. quality.

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I'm pretty sure the "public" you're thinking of and the "public" the petition means are two different things.

You're thinking along the lines of anyone can see it.

I believe it actually means that it's not behind closed doors, and they actually will reveal what they mean when you inquire.

Right now, if you file a claim, they just say "We have proof. You're not going to see it, but it exists." How do we know they're not lying? How do we know they're not just completely making pomegranate up to cover their asses? We don't. By making it public, it means to change that message from before to, "We have proof. Look, right here. *Point to link*" It's not private, it's not closed off, you can see what they are accusing you of. That's how it's public.

You can easily upload Youtube videos that are Private, then send the link to users who make claims.

Signed.

The problem with a petition however is that it's being heard on deaf ears. I believe that Nexon wouldn't bring about this change as it would just create more work for them to do. We all know that they aren't exactly industry leaders in caring about their customer base, so why should they start now. The only way I can see change happening is if we boycott the game or even just spending real money into the game, and make it known that we are doing so. This would be much more effective as large multinational corporations like Nexon care more about monetary income, and if we create a large enough dent, they will have to listen.

Just my two cents.