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Additionally, Vengeance is bugged, doesn't work properly or for proper damage. I think Hamstring is a good idea for pvp. But level 1 = level 20 as far as i'm concerned, you don't live that long in pvp. Phoenix is good though, I love it and loved it in tespia. Imo, 1 hamstring then phoenix all the was, especially considering it'll help in your training as you continue to level up far more than either Vengeance or Hamstring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Locked
is hurricane also bugged because i seem to get way more hits w/ strafe than hurricane, its a bit frustrating, so far it seems that inferno spam is the way to goQuote:
Originally Posted by White
I've been doing inferno spam when 2+ people, hurricane (if room isn't that laggy) or strafe on single targets. I make it a goal to be on the outside of all multiperson engagements. Keeps me safe and raking in the points.
i decided to use only my ulti ranger for pvp now so i dont have to deal w/ that, its been working really well w/ inferno + jump shot every where, i just got my first 3k+ round :DQuote:
Originally Posted by White
but PvP has changed my views about the jump skill advanced inferno, i kind of want to max it for PvP, i do have 2 high lvl BMs to work with so i can do one bossing (one has decent HB) and the other a PvP build
With the new leafre medal (+1 all stats) Im thinking about leaving all my skills at lvl 29 (and MW at lvl 28) and letting the +1 all max them, that would free up way more points than you would need to max everything
and has any1 tested the leafre medal, i heard that the 30% def ignore doesn't work but the +1 all skills showed up
Just so I don't make a new thread. JoeTang helped me with this.Code:
120. 1 Hurricane (1), 1 Advanced Final Attack (1), 1 Bow Expertise (1)
121. 1 Ultimate Inferno (1), 1 Spirit Link (1), 1 Elite Puppet (1)
122. 3 Advanced Final Attack (4)
123. 3 Advanced Final Attack (7)
124. 3 Advanced Final Attack (10)
125. 3 Advanced Final Attack (13)
126. 3 Advanced Final Attack (16)
127. 3 Advanced Final Attack (19)
128. 3 Advanced Final Attack (22)
129. 3 Advanced Final Attack (25)
130. 3 Advanced Final Attack (28)
131. 2 Advanced Final Attack (MAX), 1 Bow Expertise (2)*
132. 3 Bow Expertise (5)
133. 3 Bow Expertise (8)
134. 3 Bow Expertise (11)
135. 3 Bow Expertise (14)
136. 3 Bow Expertise (17)
137. 3 Bow Expertise (20)
138. 3 Bow Expertise (23)
139. 3 Bow Expertise (26)
140. 3 Bow Expertise (29)
141. 1 Bow Expertise (MAX), 2 Hurricane (3)
142. 3 Hurricane (6)
143. 3 Hurricane (9)
144. 3 Hurricane (12)
145. 3 Hurricane (15)
146. 3 Hurricane (18)
147. 3 Hurricane (21)
148. 3 Hurricane (24)
149. 3 Hurricane (27)
150. 3 Hurricane (MAX)
151. 3 Spirit Link (4)
152. 3 Spirit Link (7)
153. 3 Spirit Link (10)
154. 3 Spirit Link (13)
155. 3 Spirit Link (16)
156. 3 Spirit Link (19)
157. 3 Spirit Link (22)
158. 3 Spirit Link (25)
159. 3 Spirit Link (28)
160. 2 Spirit Link (MAX), 1 Sharp Eyes (1)
161. 3 Sharp Eyes (4)
162. 3 Sharp Eyes (7)
163. 3 Sharp Eyes (10)
164. 3 Sharp Eyes (13)
165. 3 Sharp Eyes (16)
166. 3 Sharp Eyes (19)
167. 3 Sharp Eyes (22)
168. 3 Sharp Eyes (25)
169. 3 Sharp Eyes (28)
170. 2 Sharp Eyes (MAX), 1 Marksmanship (1)
171. 3 Marksmanship (4)
172. 3 Marksmanship (7)
173. 3 Marksmanship (10)
174. 3 Elite Puppet (4)
175. 3 Elite Puppet (7)
176. 3 Elite Puppet (10)
177. 3 Elite Puppet (13)
178. 2 Elite Puppet (MAX)
179. 3 Illusion Step (3)
180. 3 Illusion Step (6)
181. 3 Illusion Step (9)
182. 3 Illusion Step (12)
183. 3 Illusion Step (15)
184. 3 Illusion Step (18)
185. 3 Illusion Step (21)
186. 3 Illusion Step (24)
187. 3 Illusion Step (27)
188. 3 Illusion Step (MAX)
189. 3 Maple Warrior (3)
190. 3 Maple Warrior (6)
191. 3 Maple Warrior (9)
192. 3 Maple Warrior (12)
193. 3 Maple Warrior (15)
194. 3 Maple Warrior (18)
195. 3 Maple Warrior (21
196. 3 Maple Warrior (24)
197. 3 Maple Warrior (27)
198. 2 Maple Warrior (29), 1 Hero's Will (1)
199. 3 Hero's Will (4)
200. 1 Hero's Will (MAX), 2 Ultimate Inferno (3)
*Note: You need over 385 attack for Hurricane to beat Bow Expertise
up for a marksman build? :f3:
I second this. What frustrates me the most about all this crap, is they can't just find a set of skills and stay with it. Once Jump finally hits, there will inevitably be another "HERP DERP LOG ON FOR ONE MINUTE TO GET THE FULL SP RESET HOPE YOU CAN MAKE IT FOR THIS MINUTE BECAUSE IF YOU CANT YOURE SCREWED" event, leading to most of us having anywhere between 450-600 skill points to re-allocate. I'm left wondering, at 154, what skills am I going to have to give up points on THIS time in order to have the best possible build? Once Big Bang hit, I had to give up all 30 points of snipe for other things. Not that I necessarily minded doing so, especially for ultimate strafe, but the fact of the matter is I do not want to short-change Sharp Eyes, Pierce, or Marksman Boost just allocate points into other skills. I'm all for changes and making things bigger and better, but forcing us to have to rethink our entire skill build once every year or so is just plain dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by TugboatWilly
Well, as time has gone on, SE has actually become less and less useful. While I can see where you're coming from in having to give up old skills for new ones, you only need to do that if you're trying to make the best use of skills currently available to do the most damage. If you really like sharp eyes but it's not the best way to increase you damage (skill-wise) that doesn't mean you can't get it anyway. Besides, that's what other players look for in archers, SE.
You know a class has good skills when you need maple warrior LAST.
Yeah, we're loaded, it's fantastic. Even a skill that's arguably pretty good (Ult.Inferno) doesn't end up getting maxed by 200. Kinda crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloy
If you can get decent combat orders or +1 or +2 all skills on an equip then you should be able to max it. My helm has +2 all skills ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by White
ALTERNATIVELY
You know a class sucks when they have so many skills to max to stay competitive that they don't get MW until 19x.
You can always get MW from Night Lords, though. It's currently our 2nd-3rd skill to max. And one of those has only 10 points.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeTang
It all comes down to the quality of the skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeTang
In this case, i'm going to say the class rocks.
Any suggestions on my Marksman Ascension build? Mine's only level 128 currently but I'd like to have a build planned out.
Code:
120. 1 Ultimate Strafe (1), 1 Snipe (1), 1 Marksman Boost (1)
121. 1 Piercing Arrow (1), 1 Spirit Link: Frostprey (1), 1 Elite Puppet (1)
122. 3 Ultimate Strafe (4)
123. 3 Ultimate Strafe (7)
124. 3 Ultimate Strafe (MAX)
125. 3 Marksman Boost (4)
126. 3 Marksman Boost (7)
127. 3 Marksman Boost (10)
128. 3 Marksman Boost (13)
129. 3 Marksman Boost (16)
130. 3 Marksman Boost (19)
131. 3 Marksman Boost (22)
132. 3 Marksman Boost (25)
133. 3 Marksman Boost (28)
134. 2 Marksman Boost (MAX), 1 Piercing Arrow (2)
135. 3 Piercing Arrow (5)
136. 3 Piercing Arrow (8)
137. 3 Piercing Arrow (11)
138. 3 Piercing Arrow (14)
139. 3 Piercing Arrow (17)
140. 3 Piercing Arrow (20)
141. 3 Piercing Arrow (23)
142. 3 Piercing Arrow (26)
143. 3 Piercing Arrow (29)
144. 1 Piercing Arrow (MAX), 2 Sharp Eyes (2)
145. 3 Sharp Eyes (5)
146. 3 Sharp Eyes (8)
147. 3 Sharp Eyes (11)
148. 3 Sharp Eyes (14)
149. 3 Sharp Eyes (17)
150. 3 Sharp Eyes (20)
151. 3 Sharp Eyes (23)
152. 3 Sharp Eyes (26)
153. 3 Sharp Eyes (29)
154. 3 Spirit Link: Frostprey (4)
155. 3 Spirit Link: Frostprey (7)
156. 3 Spirit Link: Frostprey (10)
157. 3 Spirit Link: Frostprey (13)
158. 3 Spirit Link: Frostprey (16)
159. 3 Spirit Link: Frostprey (19)
160. 3 Spirit Link: Frostprey (22)
161. 3 Spirit Link: Frostprey (25)
162. 3 Spirit Link: Frostprey (28)
163. 1 Spirit Link: Frostprey (29), 2 Snipe (3)
164. 3 Snipe (6)
165. 3 Snipe (9)
166. 3 Snipe (12)
167. 3 Snipe (15)
168. 3 Snipe (18)
169. 3 Snipe (21)
170. 3 Snipe (24)
171. 3 Snipe (27)
172. 3 Snipe (MAX)
173. 1 Sharp Eyes (MAX), 1 Spirit Link: Frostprey (MAX), 1 Marksmanship (1)
174. 3 Marksmanship (4)
175. 3 Marksmanship (7)
176. 3 Marksmanship (MAX)
177. 3 Elite Puppet (04)
178. 3 Elite Puppet (07)
179. 3 Elite Puppet (10)
180. 3 Elite Puppet (13)
181. 3 Illusion Step (3)
182. 3 Illusion Step (6)
183. 3 Illusion Step (9)
184. 3 Illusion Step (12)
185. 3 Illusion Step (15)
186. 3 Illusion Step (18)
187. 3 Illusion Step (21)
188. 3 Illusion Step (24)
189. 3 Illusion Step (27)
190. 3 Illusion Step (MAX)
191. 3 Maple Warrior (3)
192. 3 Maple Warrior (6)
193. 3 Maple Warrior (9)
194. 3 Maple Warrior (12)
195. 3 Maple Warrior (15)
196. 3 Maple Warrior (18)
197. 3 Maple Warrior (21)
198. 3 Maple Warrior (24)
199. 3 Maple Warrior (27)
200. 2 Maple Warrior (29), Hero's Will (1)
I'm sure SL:F should come before SE.
Does SL:F provide a significantly larger boost than SE? The main reason I got it first is for parties.
+40% HP +15% total damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bribery
Come on.
+40% HP.
MW is more important than Illusion Step afaik. Avoid is lol and level 9 MW will get you +40 dex if your base is 800, and since you planning to put points into it near 200 anyway it seems plausible that you'd have that much dex at that level.