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NoWaizMatt
2008-07-13, 08:25 PM
So I decided to see what max the damage range for a level 200 CB was, given that timeless weapons were out, he had 120 base dex, and all perfect equips. My ratio was 1 att=3 luk.

I pretty much took these equips:

56 Luk Katinas=252 in damage range.
140/21 Timeless Dagger=1984.5 in range.
33 att BWG=445.5 in range.
27 att FS=364.5 in range.
15 luk earring=67.5 in range.
48 att MS Shield=648 in range
30 att PGC=405 in Range
Zhelm=67.5
+1 HT=99

And (based of my luk), 897 Luk=4036.5 in range.

I added this all up to get a maximum damage of 8370.

Based on my current ratio, Max damage=minimum * 1.67 (Not sure if it's right.)

This would leave the total range at 5012~8370, being the maximum damage range for a level 200 CB with the same exact capping as me.

Zaotsu
2008-07-13, 09:57 PM
Why only +1 on a HT? +3 adds 30 more stats. I believe the Pink Gaia Cape can be 6 att at most.

Earring max would be 28, not 15. +3 from a 30%, +25 from 5 Chaos Scrolls on a Crystal Leaf Earring. Max luk on a Timeless Dagger would be in the 33+ range. Depending on if it has luk on it when it's clean.

Dunno if you took this into your calculations, but a perfect ZHelm is 67 to Luk, Dex, and Str.

I doubt your calculations are accurate due to how the damage formula works anyways.
MAX - Dagger & Throwing Stars - [(LUK * 3.6 + STR + DEX) / 100]* Weapon Attack

MIN - Dagger and Throwing Stars - (LUK * 0.9 * 3.6 * Skill Mastery + STR + DEX) / 100 * Weapon Attack

Katina - 58 luk \ 54 dex
Timeless Dagger 141 \ 31 (not sure if after it levels up it gets Luk or not)
BWG - 33 Att
FS - 27 att
Earring - 28 luk
MS Shield - 48 att \ 47 str
Pink Gaia - 31 att
ZHelm - 67 Luk \ Str \ Dex (assuming 17 base)
+3 Pendant - 74 Luk \ Str \ Dex (assuming 8 base)
Face - 22 dex
Eye - 21 dex
Total Att - 280
Total Luk - (897 base + 226) 1123
Total Dex - (120 base + 238) 358
Total Str - (4 base + 184) 188

Range should be...

7641~12848

120 base is a big waste at that point really.Then again, this is all hypothetical. None of this really matters because getting these equips is as close to as impossible as you can get in MS.

NoWaizMatt
2008-07-14, 02:52 PM
Yea, I realized my calculations were a bit off after I got flamed on SW =\. Your right.

Gstatue
2008-07-16, 02:28 AM
http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1446390

Scroll down to 1.2.149. Proof that you can't scroll the HT pendant more than once using an egg.

banditcom
2008-07-16, 12:54 PM
I'll figure it out for you. I'll use the 120 str dagger that requires 80 str and 160 dex.

Gear:
33 attack glove (1 10/30%, 6 chaos)
30 attack cape (5 chaos)
27 attack shoes (5 chaos)
151 atk 31 luk dagger (1 10/30%, 6 chaos)
48 atk 47 str shield (1 10/30%, 9 chaos)
67/67/67/67 helm (10 chaos)
23/23/23/23 pendant (1 egg)
0/24/30/23 earring (1 10/30% luk, 4 chaos)
33/34/0/37 top (1 10/30% str, 6 chaos)
34/33/0/35 bottom (1 10/30% dex, 6 chaos)
22 dex face (1 10/30%, 4 chaos)

Buffs:
140 atk pot
Max Maple Warrior
Echo of Hero


Earring was a 0/4/5/0 clean gold emerald, top was a 0/4/0/7 clean red or purple osfa, bottom was a 4/0/0/5 clean purple osfa.

So.... that makes for
+204 str
+203 dex
+120 int
+216 luk

4/25/4/997 base... Max MW makes it:

191 str (4+204)
230 dex (25+205)
124 int (4+120)
1312 luk (997+315)

You have 289 total attack before any buffs. Now add the 140 atk pot as well as Echo of Hero's 4% bonus (which comes out to 17 atk).

446 total attack


13250~22942 range

Have fun with that. ;D Oh and you have enough total dex+str to be dexless+strless and use a level 190 str-dagger. And there are always eye accessories as well as 2 more upgrades to HT necklace.

Kranzorbaken
2008-07-16, 01:17 PM
Uhm i read it and is that not proof that it IS able to be scrolled 3x soon...
It says the wqeust is repeatable ...

ahoboandahal
2008-07-16, 01:24 PM
lol i was just thinking about doing this for a hero.

Zaotsu
2008-07-16, 11:20 PM
http://www.sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1446390

Scroll down to 1.2.149. Proof that you can't scroll the HT pendant more than once using an egg.


Hmm, I knew that you can't currently in any version use the egg more than once on the pendant, but I could have sworn I remember seeing a picture of one with +67 or so. I'm probably just being delusional though.

Kigaz
2008-07-17, 02:35 AM
Hmm, I knew that you can't currently in any version use the egg more than once on the pendant, but I could have sworn I remember seeing a picture of one with +67 or so. I'm probably just being delusional though.

it was a 52 =P
and its possible but we just need the 2nd quest to come out xP

I'll figure it out for you. I'll use the 120 str dagger that requires 80 str and 160 dex.

Gear:
33 attack glove (1 10/30%, 6 chaos)
30 attack cape (5 chaos)
27 attack shoes (5 chaos)
151 atk 31 luk dagger (1 10/30%, 6 chaos)
48 atk 47 str shield (1 10/30%, 9 chaos)
67/67/67/67 helm (10 chaos)
23/23/23/23 pendant (1 egg)
0/24/30/23 earring (1 10/30% luk, 4 chaos)
33/34/0/37 top (1 10/30% str, 6 chaos)
34/33/0/35 bottom (1 10/30% dex, 6 chaos)
22 dex face (1 10/30%, 4 chaos)

Buffs:
140 atk pot
Max Maple Warrior
Echo of Hero


Earring was a 0/4/5/0 clean gold emerald, top was a 0/4/0/7 clean red or purple osfa, bottom was a 4/0/0/5 clean purple osfa.

So.... that makes for
+204 str
+203 dex
+120 int
+216 luk

4/25/4/997 base... Max MW makes it:

191 str (4+204)
230 dex (25+205)
124 int (4+120)
1312 luk (997+315)

You have 289 total attack before any buffs. Now add the 140 atk pot as well as Echo of Hero's 4% bonus (which comes out to 17 atk).

446 total attack


13250~22942 range

Have fun with that. ;D Oh and you have enough total dex+str to be dexless+strless and use a level 190 str-dagger. And there are always eye accessories as well as 2 more upgrades to HT necklace.Jason why you make me laugh :(?

Hero
2008-07-17, 02:45 AM
5. ‘드래곤의 돌’을 반복하여 획득할 수 있도록 새로운 퀘스트가 추가되었습니다.
5. A new quest was added so you can obtain 'Dragon's Rock' multiple times.

- 단, 각각의 혼테일의 목걸이마다 한 번만 사용할 수 있습니다.
- However, it's only usable once per Horntail's Necklace.

That makes no sense. <_< You'd end up scrolling, what? Green bowties? :f3: