Pink Been question

[TiEaB]

I have been fascinated with fighting pink been since I first heard about it. I know that the release of this boss is probably far off but I just wanted to know if anyone knew the hp one needs to go. Anyone know?

EDIT:
If you guys were in my situation (Level 161, ~7900 hp w/HB) would you:
A. Stand pat
B. Get more HP through Washing or just adding points
My main question has pretty much always been is it worth it trying to get more points into HP or should I be as able to PB as the next ranged guy? As stated before I am sure Pink Been is far off but if I plan now if more HP is necessary I can do something about it.

[Lozmaster]

Last form does AT LEAST 11k. Good luck with that on an archer. It can be avoided, but it would depend completely on the rest of the members for that.

[TiEaB]

Last form does AT LEAST 11k. Good luck with that on an archer. It can be avoided, but it would depend completely on the rest of the members for that.
What about the other stages? I just want a feel for what I need to do or to not worry about it

[TKWizard]

1st-4th stage, you will see damages up to about 4-6k

5th stage: Ariel comes out and then the 12-14k aoe attack in the middle comes in.

6th stage: Already mentioned. 10.9k-12k reverse Genesis attack, 17k-19k Big Bang attack.

[TiEaB]

1st-4th stage, you will see damages up to about 4-6k

5th stage: Ariel comes out and then the 12-14k aoe attack in the middle comes in.

6th stage: Already mentioned. 10.9k-12k reverse Genesis attack, 17k-19k Big Bang attack.

So that is why all the ranged stand in one spot on stage 5? Also stage 6 sounds crazy how are ranged supposed to survive that?

[JoeTang]

Smokescreen.

[TKWizard]

Smokescreen.

Which lasts only a few minutes.... Once that runs out, you are good as dead.

[Stereo]

Also stage 6 sounds crazy how are ranged supposed to survive that?

Massive amount of points in HP, I know there's at least one 200 Bowmaster with over 7.5k base hp (that is 12000 with HB). I think he did it by hp washing.

[TiEaB]

One last question when I was watching the stage 6 video the dead people kept compng back is this a special pink been feature or that cs item

[GMSInfighter]

One last question when I was watching the stage 6 video the dead people kept compng back is this a special pink been feature or that cs item

A CS Item. When you die, two buttons come up and it asks if you want to be revived in the map (Only with CS item) or to town.

[JoeTang]

Which lasts only a few minutes.... Once that runs out, you are good as dead.

Okay then, be that way. No ranged character is allowed to survive. Happy?

[Dusk]

Ugh, they need to stop jacking the damage up on bosses. I think the most any monster that is supposed to be survivable for a ranged class should do is 8k. There's other ways to make it hard. Unless ranged classes aren't supposed to survive, period >_>

[TiEaB]

Ugh, they need to stop jacking the damage up on bosses. I think the most any monster that is supposed to be survivable for a ranged class should do is 8k. There's other ways to make it hard. Unless ranged classes aren't supposed to survive, period >_>

I completely agree sigh. Now I gotta figure out if I should stand pat try to wash or go blood again....... Any suggestions?

[Stereo]

Unless ranged classes aren't supposed to survive, period >_>

It could be like that... you have 10 minutes to kill PB and then revive the ranged players :P (or revive them every 6-8 minutes and let them die again, while you kill)

The trouble is ranged damage > any other class damage on any boss, maybe this is how they guarantee the other classes get to help kill it.

[Typhoon]

Which lasts only a few minutes.... Once that runs out, you are good as dead.

Time Leap. Multiple shadowers + multiple Bucs = lots of saved lives.

As for hp problem.. MP wash. It's gonna cost you a hell a lot of NX, but it makes it so you can HP wash more. =\

[KajitiSouls]

Eh? Who's going to Time Leap the Time Leap? You'll run out of smoke and mirrors eventually. And you're still good as dead because Ariel doesn't go down fast enough.

[DrRusty]

Nexon needs to think of a way to make bosses harder other than raising damage. Is there a place people can stand in the boss fight where they won't get hit?

[Typhoon]

It's attack looks like it's a full map attack <,<

[TiEaB]

Time Leap. Multiple shadowers + multiple Bucs = lots of saved lives.

As for hp problem.. MP wash. It's gonna cost you a hell a lot of NX, but it makes it so you can HP wash more. =\

Um what is MP Washing?

[Kaasoljoyyx]

You can't time leap time leap

And I'm pretty sure they'll tweak it some more. Even if the damage was reduced, the time limit is still 1 hour and I think only apple'd versions can do that much dps. When changing the time, they'll probably tweak the damage. Raising the damage doesn't really do that much to the boss fight (Besides making it almost impossible to possible). The skills like zombify, seduce, etc is how boss difficulty should be rated. They should just switch that 11k attack to a 1/1 or 1/no effect.

[WayOfTime]

How much for and how long is that CS item that allows you to revive in the same map?

[KaidaTan]

I'm pretty sure Ariel's magic attacks are avoidable (as in, get the hell out of the way when you see markings on the ground) from the video's I've seen. Pink Been's magic attacks shouldn't do more than 11k or so, if you cross-check his magic attack with others. If he has any well-ranged physical attacks though, I'm not sure what ranged people could do about it.

[Typhoon]

Um what is MP Washing?

I don't suggest trying it unless you have godly INT equips to level up with.. like 14x int + and have a lot of money (real life $$) ...

Massive amount of points in HP, I know there's at least one 200 Bowmaster with over 7.5k base hp (that is 12000 with HB). I think he did it by hp washing.
I know of atleast 1 MM in Broa who could have enough HP if he were to train a little more. He's only level 169 too.

[Cyanne]

The pink bean battle is stupidly planned out as a whole. You only need 8300hp for the first four phases to survive really (Huigin's attacks when crossing the room), the rest of it is just too ridiculous. You can't even see the marks on the floor for ariel's 13k attack unless you're on the floor, in which case you can't hit her/it. It's possible to avoid all of pink bean's attacks other than its 1/1 by standing behind it all the time, but once it turns around, you'll be blasted by 11k + stun attacks. I'm not sure how aggressiveness works with 30 people hitting a monster at once, but I'm somewhat sure that it's impossible to keep it facing one side away from the ranged classes 100% of the time.

[Technolink]

Possibly ranged classes could stand on one side not firing, while the other classes attack?

Save the ranged people <3

[Takebacker]

Possibly melee classes could stand on one side not firing, while the other classes attack?

Save the ranged people <3

Fix'd. :[

I don't think the fight is stupidly planned out so much as the strategies for killing it are. It took a while for KMS to kill HT, but hell...

[Blaine]

It's gonna be a hell of a lot harder here because of all the people leeching to like 120, then not knowing how to use their characters and wanting to be taken along, and killing the rest of us. It won't even be easy for us...ranged does the most DPS to a single target...save for these Heroes with perfect lunchboxes and godly shields...I don't think we can get within the timer without Range.

[TamilTiger1]

Maybe they'll just increase the time for killing the last form and make it a boss for people who can survive xD this way atleast mages will have a bit higher chance getting in.

Take like 5 shadowers and few buccans. Put a shadower in each main attacking party, use smokescreen and leave party. Go to the other side and all shadowers party a buccan, use time leap then the shadowers go back and join the attacking party and smokescreen again when it runs out. Then leave party and join another buccan. Doing this you'll be able to get some help from the ranged attackers with some risks.

Or maybe they just made this boss for hackers only? :f7:

[KaidaTan]

I want people to stop suggesting strategies for anything that involve x amount of Shadowers. It's not a good idea and it will never be. Besides, how many bossing groups have so many Shadowers lying around?

[DjDisko]

I want people to stop suggesting strategies for anything that involve x amount of Shadowers. It's not a good idea and it will never be. Besides, how many bossing groups have so many Shadowers lying around?

lol, the real question is can you even find shadowers these days? Mardia's shadowers are officially dead. I quit mine as soon as I tried joining boss groups & I got a nice :pineapple: you. I wouldn't doubt most of the other shadowers feel the same way. I never got respect after 4th job came out. I wasn't even able to join a zrun till 4th job and I really didn't have the time to make my own zrun either.

[IllegallySane]

This is all just crazy, because this kind of madness requires ~150-200+ AP washed/added t survive Pink Been.

For a power standpoint, sacrificing too much HP for main stat means ranged damage will falter, and if that happens Pink Been will be harder to take down. Might as well stack Heroes instead because at least they can take the hits. :f3:

[Harrisonized]

impossible to keep it facing one side away from the ranged classes 100% of the time.
What if you had a team of bowmen ALL use puppet on the wall and then attack the Pink Bean while the rest of the people stop attacking?

[FelixTM]

What if you had a team of bowmen ALL use puppet on the wall and then attack the Pink Bean while the rest of the people stop attacking?

Well, you see the whole idea is to get it to face away from the bowmen + other range. Not make it target them... lol And you must not get how Puppet works, because the only way for Puppet to work is to be the only one attacking it. Bowman A uses Puppet and now only Bowman A can attack the monster. If any other person attacks, Bowman A's Puppet instantly becomes worthless.

[DjDisko]

eew sry for double post

[DjDisko]

Well, you see the whole idea is to get it to face away from the bowmen + other range. Not make it target them... lol And you must not get how Puppet works, because the only way for Puppet to work is to be the only one attacking it. Bowman A uses Puppet and now only Bowman A can attack the monster. If any other person attacks, Bowman A's Puppet instantly becomes worthless.

If its 30 ppl like ht.

Team 1
1 - BM
4 - shadowers
1- bishop

Team 2-5
5 - shadowers
1 - bishop

Strategy

Bm solo attacking/puppets, Bishops heal, shadowers as multiple ss mules. :f2:

Guaranteed success :cool:

[Russt]

Hm... idea.
1) Does Monster Magnet force KB/force monsters to face you?
2) Does it work on bosses?

I know Rush does, but it pushes monsters in the opposite direction it forces them to face, so you'd end up either pushing PB toward the ranged or uselessly pinning him against the wall.

@ above
Good luck finding a BM that can dish out ~2m damage per second.

[DjDisko]

@ above
Good luck finding a BM that can dish out ~2m damage per second.

Don't deny it!!!!!!!! You know its full proof :cool:

[Dusk]

It could be like that... you have 10 minutes to kill PB and then revive the ranged players :P (or revive them every 6-8 minutes and let them die again, while you kill)

The trouble is ranged damage > any other class damage on any boss, maybe this is how they guarantee the other classes get to help kill it.

D=

They could add bosses with 2-3 hittable parts, or bosses where you fight more than one boss at once. Not sure how that would work, but ranged only win on single targets. Heroes and DrKs both attack with skills that hit up to three monsters.

[TiEaB]

So basically the sense I am getting from everybody is basically nexon once again gave a big "Pineapple you, have a nice day" to the bowman class once again. Well at least I can survive the first 4 stages and it seems like stage 5 can be survived if i stay on that ledge and i can continually die at PB for fun =)

[Shippo the Fox]

This is all just crazy, because this kind of madness requires ~150-200+ AP washed/added t survive Pink Been.

For a power standpoint, sacrificing too much HP for main stat means ranged damage will falter, and if that happens Pink Been will be harder to take down. Might as well stack Heroes instead because at least they can take the hits. :f3:

What's better, having lowered damage, or not even being able to go because you can't take a single hit. Obvious answer.

[Dusk]

What's better, having lowered damage, or not even being able to go because you can't take a single hit. Obvious answer.

Yeah, really obvious choice to give up the most important advantage you have as a ranged class just to take a hit from a broken boss >_>

[Typhoon]

Maybe theres a secret safe spot somewhere :f2: Like between Ariel's wings on the platform or something..

I hope :f4:

[KaidaTan]

Maybe theres a secret safe spot somewhere :f2: Like between Ariel's wings on the platform or something..

I hope :f4:

Ranged people are absolutely necessary for Ariel, though. The not-ranged classes hit it about as well as they hit Zakum's top right arm. She has like 600m HP, I don't think warriors would want to jump-attack to do that much damage.

[Shippo the Fox]

Yeah, really obvious choice to give up the most important advantage you have as a ranged class just to take a hit from a broken boss >_>

Either Reduced Damage and at least be able to take a hit from a boss.

Or 0 Damage because you CANT take a hit from a boss.

[WayOfTime]

I don't see much of a way archers can pull of PB without serious blood building or money galore.

P.s., what is with all the Goggles?

[jikos]

Guys this is obviously not the final version of pink been. If I were to take a guess, they will drastically decrease the magic attack damage, and increase the time limit.

[IsaacGS]

Guys this is obviously not the final version of pink been. If I were to take a guess, they will drastically decrease the magic attack damage, and increase the time limit.
it's been about 8 months now, I think if they were going to do that it would have happened by now.

[Kaasoljoyyx]

it's been about 8 months now, I think if they were going to do that it would have happened by now.

*Points to captain latanica*

[KaidaTan]

I'd like to mention that I had Issac check out some things about PB and I found something out. You guys know that explosion/super KB skill he has? Well that does 17k (1500 physical attack power) and has longer range than ranged classes (we have 400, the attack has 500). Don't count on Super HP washing for this boss.

[Shippo the Fox]

*Points to captain latanica*

2 Different Nexons, on 2 different versions, in 2 different scenarios.

[Typhoon]

There has to be some sort of safe spot or something.. :f7:

[Shinryuji]

nexon could alwys just make a new skill that allows players to block (besides smokescreen) for other players but meh, i'd doubt that would happen >>

[jikos]

dw, they'll find something. they got to stage 6 WITH ranged attackers and had only 6 minutes left. nexon cant possibly expect them to complete a full run with all melee.