View Full Version : Time Temple Element Weaknesses
Kabanaw
2008-07-13, 09:21 AM
If you look at the fire monsters in the Time Temple, you'll see that supposedly aren't ice weak. Do you think this is a mistake or is true? And if it is true, why would it be? :f4:
Nielz
2008-07-13, 09:22 AM
I hope its a mistake and that its for 1 month not ice weak so the f/p community will grow a bit and than change it so i/l's get a trainings place too =]
Kabanaw
2008-07-13, 09:45 AM
I think the chances of it being real is very slim, because elemental monsters are almost always a reflection of eachother. Look at Wyverns, Kents, everything. If it turns out they're making a fire monster ice neutral, I'll cry. :f4:
gucci
2008-07-13, 09:53 AM
I don't think there are any ice weak monsters. Also if you noticed, the best monsters are fire strong (and not ice weak). Yes f/p can train at the fire weak monster but they can't train at the best ones, if meteo is the primary attack. More and more restrictions for element classes except holy
Jones
2008-07-13, 09:55 AM
According to my experience, it'll not be changed from now on.
Kabanaw
2008-07-13, 10:02 AM
But is it defenite the info is right in the first place? Besides, this makes so little sense it's doubtful it's true.
Shippo the Fox
2008-07-13, 11:31 AM
Its almost like a sort of "compensation" to F/P mages. Remember, they cant freeze anything except El Quines. Their Ultimate has the same Base Attack and cant freeze, and nothing ever is poison weak (except for those few rare cases), usually just immune.
Im really not all the concerned though. Poison weak plus my Venom = Happy Shadower.
gucci
2008-07-13, 06:21 PM
Its almost like a sort of "compensation" to F/P mages. Remember, they cant freeze anything except El Quines. Their Ultimate has the same Base Attack and cant freeze, and nothing ever is poison weak (except for those few rare cases), usually just immune.
You missed the point. While finally having an ok monster weak to fire, F/p now have best 4 monsters strong to fire. This means no ice AM can train together with them, and bishops will probably avoid those too as they can stick with skeles which give holy advantage or train at those better monsters that give more exp.
According to my experience, it'll not be changed from now on. yea that probably it
Kabanaw
2008-07-13, 06:35 PM
Its almost like a sort of "compensation" to F/P mages. Remember, they cant freeze anything except El Quines. Their Ultimate has the same Base Attack and cant freeze, and nothing ever is poison weak (except for those few rare cases), usually just immune.
Im really not all the concerned though. Poison weak plus my Venom = Happy Shadower.
It's more like over-compensating. It's like not only giving f/ps something good, then kicking i/ls in the crotch.
hard.
Holypie
2008-07-13, 08:55 PM
more like shooting them in the crotch -.-"
Kabanaw
2008-07-13, 09:13 PM
more like shooting them in the crotch -.-"
Punching, shooting, then kicking repeatedly :f4:
Holypie
2008-07-13, 09:21 PM
and then firing a machine gun at they're everywhere and to top it off throwing 30000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000 grenades at them ='(
Delicae
2008-07-13, 09:26 PM
Us poor I/L mages gettin abused just cause we use raw powah.D;
Ouch T_T
(But as a little side note for I/L ownage: Ifrit's base attack is more than Elquines and Bahamuts WOOT! <3333)
On Topic: ): I was hoping Temple of Time would bring up more F/P mages in the community, there's too many Bishops/I.L lol.. *and I'm one xD*
Holypie
2008-07-13, 09:30 PM
not that many I/L tho... but we gettin abused by nexon =( why can't fire be ice weak? you don't see people putting out fires with poison -.-"
Gstatue
2008-07-13, 09:33 PM
You guys are looking at this from an ulti-spammers point of view. Look at the weaknesses, fire and lightning weak. LIGHTNING weak, meaning CL. With awesome equips, high level CL, and the lightning wand, you could 2hko/3hko these. ALSO, fire weak, meaning ifrit will do insane damage here. With the low number of hits and hoping these guys do power ups, you could use barely any pots here.
Btw, anyone else hoping for HT-only skillbooks to drop here? :f2:
Shippo the Fox
2008-07-13, 09:34 PM
You think I/L are getting hit hard, but its the same thing that has been done to F/P throughout the entire game. Everything F/P mages do, I/L mages and Bishops can do better. Only thing they had was Poison Mist.
Theres that, but I also don't see them being Ice STRONG and unfreezeable. With the wide size of Time Temple + freeze, being hit would be hard, even with that Freeze Slide glitch thing.
Seriously, you people train at Newties fine and they're Ice Neutral and Freezeable as well.
Holypie
2008-07-13, 09:36 PM
You guys are looking at this from an ulti-spammers point of view. Look at the weaknesses, fire and lightning weak. LIGHTNING weak, meaning CL. With awesome equips, high level CL, and the lightning wand, you could 2hko/3hko these. ALSO, fire weak, meaning ifrit will do insane damage here. With the low number of hits and hoping these guys do power ups, you could use barely any pots here.
Btw, anyone else hoping for HT-only skillbooks to drop here? :f2:
look at our lvls! were not even 120 yet -.-" plus cl is shat against more than one monster. its dmg decreases by half every monster it chains to, so by the 6th monster, youre doing less than energy bolt damage because it goes down exponentially, AKA 180/2=90/2=45/2=22.5/2=11.25/2=5.625! 5.625 basic attack. level ONE energy bolt is 20 basic attack.
Gstatue
2008-07-13, 09:44 PM
look at our lvls! were not even 120 yet -.-" plus cl is shat against more than one monster. its dmg decreases by half every monster it chains to, so by the 6th monster, youre doing less than energy bolt damage because it goes down exponentially, AKA 180/2=90/2=45/2=22.5/2=11.25/2=5.625! 5.625 basic attack. level ONE energy bolt is 20 basic attack.
I need to link the map to you guys with the spawn spots =0. The spawn isn't super thick, and the map layout is like skeles. You're talking like it's coming out tomorrow :f6: This'll take a long time to get to Gms. Also, CL is supposed to be used on the first 3'ish monsters.
TøbiasBlack
2008-07-13, 09:48 PM
It's more like over-compensating. It's like not only giving f/ps something good, then kicking i/ls in the crotch.
hard.
i think its about time f/p's get a hand-out. they arent looked at as highly as i/L's, but in there they will have total love from others...like back when before the boomers nerf. :excellent:
Holypie
2008-07-13, 09:48 PM
even the third can be beaten by cold bean, and it doesn't freeze. better to just use compo. 1 Q tho, does compo do 1.25x dmg on ice weak and 1.25x on lit weak?
WiseAlon32
2008-07-13, 10:14 PM
i think it doesnt matter that much.
sure, its unfair that f/p mages are the strongest magician class there, but there's no holy-weak monsters there too, and at those high lvls blizzard with amp should be stronger than genesis (well, i cant really check it but thats what everyone is saying) so bishops are actually the ones that will actually stay in skeles and i/l mages can at least go to time temple as an alternative.
pallys got it bad too since i guess at 4th job their main element is holy since its the strongest.
Kabanaw
2008-07-13, 11:04 PM
I wouldn't mind if f/ps got the stronger/better monsters to train on, but it's just cruel to give a mob they can easily 2-3 hit at a good level for huge exp and then give i/ls nothing, even though it makes no sense to do that.
»-Chris->
2008-07-14, 02:19 AM
Well, at least the ones just before are weak to lightning AND fire... =[
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