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Orit
2009-01-23, 06:03 AM
Impressions after doing the PQ about 15 times:

This PQ is much harder than PPQ.
- The mobs are deadlier;
- The boss can blind, poison, and even 1/1 you, in addition to his usual physical and magical attacks that are far more powerful than that wuss Lord Pirate;
- The boss's summons have buffs that make them very hard to kill, meaning they get in your way all the time;
- You're limited to 4 people per party. This makes the boss stage, where the party has to split (some fighting the boss, some protecting Romeo/Juliet), especially hard;
- There are stages requiring a bit more brain-power than the kill-them-all of PPQ;
- Party MUST include someone with +20 jump (i.e. thief w/max haste, or someone with appropriate potions) and someone with max teleport. They're not always easy to find. (This is probably less of a problem in the more crowded servers. I'm in Kradia)

Which all leads me to the conclusion: there is no reason for this PQ to be limited to levels under 85. If level 100's are allowed to PPQ, even though it's a walk in the park for them, they should be allowed to MPQ as well.


Tips(these assume you've read the Strategywiki (http://strategywiki.org/wiki/MapleStory/Quests/Party_Quests#Magatia_Party_Quest) guide first, and maybe also the more verbose one from Basil (http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/911400/0//Porkkys_guide_to_the_Magatia_Party_Quest_R_amp_J_P Q.html#)):
- In the First Stage, any member of the party can locate the hidden switch and open the portal, not just the leader. So have everybody clicking on the books. However, see question (1) below.
- In Stage 4, don't send either the mage or the thief into their rooms until someone has a key card to let them out. It's easier to let them out when there are two people waiting at the portal (one to lure the monsters away and one to drop the card), so try to be patient enough to send them one after another instead of at the same time.
- In Stage 4, note that the game does not prevent more than one person from entering a jump room at a time, so make sure everybody knows where to go and where not to go.
- Stage 5 requires you to click on hidden NPC's to create the portal to get out through. Stage 2 doesn't. Oddly enough, both guides have it backwards.
- In Stage 6, I've found it much better to say your entire combination (or what you've discovered of it so far) every time, instead of just the last level you learned. So you'd be saying "4" and then "42" and then "424" and so on until you get 10 digits ("4243323122"). This makes it much easier for someone to see what everybody else had at a given level. Especially in chatty/spammy servers.
- Best class to protect Romeo/Juliet, that I've seen, is I/L. Just keep those two attacking monsters frozen all the time.
- Bring eyedrops for the boss stage, because this Franken guy blinds very frequently. He's also poisoned me once, and 1/1 me once. There is also something that can kick you out of the boss's room, back to its entrance. No idea what it is since the message you get is all ????? ??. Anyway, you can just walk back in, but it costs a bit of time.
- The reward for killing the boss is 90k exp. The reward for keeping Romeo/Juliet alive is another 15k exp (not 10k as the guides say), a Marble, and some prize (most frequently 100 blue or white potions... jeez, Nexon, just how many level 71-85 do you know who use blue or white potions?... I've also seen other potions, and scrolls. Perhaps there's equips too. Someone should make a thread to list all prizes?)

Questions:
1. Sometime in the first stage you can find Romeo's Letter (or Juliet's Letter). It's an "untradeable party-quest item". What does it do? I've seen non-leaders find it, and leaders as well, but it just goes away at the end of the quest. How and where are you supposed to use it?

2. How does one initiate all the related quests? I've done the Ostracized Research one, but most of the quests listed in haha's extraction don't appear in my "Available", and the NPC's that should start them (Romeo, Juliet, Yulete) are only in the PQ and don't seem to offer quests in there.

haha01haha01
2009-01-23, 07:55 AM
im still waiting for a pq that i can do... the only pqs i ever did are ludi and zakum (and hpq with a mule), but the high level pqs (50-100) sound really fun =(

Kirov
2009-01-23, 08:14 AM
Doing the pq was too annoying. Having to run from one side of town to the other in hopes of finding a mage/priest.

The only reason PPQ is level 100 is because of the hat.

Orit
2009-01-23, 09:08 AM
Doing the pq was too annoying. Having to run from one side of town to the other in hopes of finding a mage/priest.


In Kradia, there was absolutely no-one at the Zenumist waiting room. Everybody (which was never more than about a dozen people, but yeah) was at Alcadno. Which didn't save us the run to the other end, just in case there was some haster sitting there.



The only reason PPQ is level 100 is because of the hat.

That's sort of a chicken-and-egg answer, though. They could have had the PQ only run to level 80, and removed the level 90 Lord Pirate hat from the game.
Or have it given in some level 90 personal quest, something along the lines of "The evil Lord Pirate is back! We have no time to gather a team of heros to fight him, please go do it yourself!" and then you kill some new, "area boss" incarnation of this guy, for a bunch of fame, exp, and the level 90 hat.

Lugin
2009-01-23, 10:08 AM
The letter should be given to your NPC guide in stage 4.
Not sure what it does, exactly, but that's when the option first appears.

I do have a question of my own though: Where do we trade in the marbles?

Shidoshi
2009-01-23, 10:59 AM
I found that a F/P mage is really useful in this PQ. With all the huge mobs of weapon/magic cancel buffs when you poison all the monsters in the map.

IsaacGS
2009-01-23, 11:48 AM
Nexon, with their great skill, forgot to put a portal to Yulete's map where you exchange the marbles. You need to do some quests for Yulete before you can exchange, but since no one can reach him... No Eye of Horus for anyone.

Also you should do all 3 of Keeny's quests, because she has a 4th which requires the other 3 done to get research on Frankenroid. Of course this quest can't be completed since you can't reach Yulete.

Wigum
2009-01-23, 12:02 PM
I found that a F/P mage is really useful in this PQ. With all the huge mobs of weapon/magic cancel buffs when you poison all the monsters in the map.

I think the world might come to an end. F/P usefull??

Question: does calling out your numbers help people in other rooms? I found it annoying seeing where my party was as it scrolled my path off over and over (that and my guild)

Shidoshi
2009-01-23, 12:08 PM
I think the world might come to an end. F/P usefull??

Question: does calling out your numbers help people in other rooms? I found it annoying seeing where my party was as it scrolled my path off over and over (that and my guild)

apparently the 4 paths are strictly different, meaning that if your first floor is the platform number 1, the other people can ignore the number one platform on the first floor.

Birdie
2009-01-23, 12:30 PM
protecting the npc during the boss fight was also really easy using my outlaw. I just took off my equips except for my gun and kept them stunned the entire fight and since i removed my equips, my damage sucked and I ended up killing the first one just before the boss died. Im pretty sure only two monsters can spawn up top, but not 100% as I have only done the pq twice.

Orit
2009-01-23, 01:04 PM
Question: does calling out your numbers help people in other rooms? I found it annoying seeing where my party was as it scrolled my path off over and over (that and my guild)

I found it quite useful for eliminating some options, to save myself trips back to the start.

One of my parties had an extreme case of a guy who flat-out refused to even try to figure out his own sequence. He waited until the three others were done and the party leader figured out his combination and told him. Well, at least he was able to follow that combination.

Other strange people encountered in one short evening: a thief who refused to go in the haste room, and ended up hasting another party member who volunteered to go; and a priest using nodelay (who said hackers would be gone with this patch, hmm?)

Orit
2009-01-23, 01:08 PM
Nexon, with their great skill, forgot to put a portal to Yulete's map where you exchange the marbles. You need to do some quests for Yulete before you can exchange, but since no one can reach him... No Eye of Horus for anyone.

Also you should do all 3 of Keeny's quests, because she has a 4th which requires the other 3 done to get research on Frankenroid. Of course this quest can't be completed since you can't reach Yulete.

That's just lovely.

Normally I'd delay doing the PQ until they fix this... but I'm level 83. Stopped training for a week to wait for this patch. Now I have to refrain from training for however long it takes them to put in the portal? Has anyone even logged a ticket about the missing portal?

Sigh. Maybe time to take a break from Maple. Or make another character? Ugh.

mrcowcow
2009-01-23, 03:10 PM
Nexon, with their great skill, forgot to put a portal to Yulete's map where you exchange the marbles. You need to do some quests for Yulete before you can exchange, but since no one can reach him... No Eye of Horus for anyone.

Also you should do all 3 of Keeny's quests, because she has a 4th which requires the other 3 done to get research on Frankenroid. Of course this quest can't be completed since you can't reach Yulete.

Dammit. Quests from Yulete, a quest from Kenny for Frankenroid. Now I wish I was a lower level... >_> I'm gonna have to agree with people; Does Nexon really check things...? B> Tespia. D:

Cyanne
2009-01-23, 10:05 PM
For your first question, I think that giving the letter to the respective NPC will allow you to fight a weaker version of Frankenroid, not entirely sure though.

By the way, I think snipers are best at protecting romeo/juliet at the boss stage because they have pkb, puppet, and rely more on equipment than I/Ls, meaning that they can strip off equips and use the level 12 crossbow so that they would barely deal any damage, preventing new neohuroids from spawning and keeping the ones that are already there immobile. This might also apply to rangers with arrow bomb. I/Ls rely more on base int for their damage, meaning that neohuriods might get killed, allowing them to spawn back, before the rest of the party finishes off frankenroid.

Stereo
2009-01-23, 10:23 PM
By the way, I think snipers are best at protecting romeo/juliet at the boss stage because they have pkb, puppet, and rely more on equipment than I/Ls, meaning that they can strip off equips and use the level 12 crossbow so that they would barely deal any damage, preventing new neohuroids from spawning and keeping the ones that are already there immobile.

Honestly I'd say Marauder... they have both "push" skills and stun skills. So not only can they keep them stunned, they can quickly move them away from Juliet/Romeo (and no minimum range)

Shidoshi
2009-01-23, 11:25 PM
I personally don't think it's so much of a problem with the monsters, I'd say leave the mage (whichever) to kill the neohuroids while the party rushes with the boss. It has worked pretty well for me, even in a party where one member disconnected.

bio9205
2009-01-24, 09:13 PM
Wait. Where is Yulete's lab located, in the first place?

AND I WANT THIS PQ, BUT I'M WAY OVERLEVELED.

Off-topic: There's a house which says "Under construction" in Magatia town. What is it for? Magatia PQ? Maker Skill? Thanks.

nannerz
2009-01-24, 10:38 PM
Fun pq ^^

For boss stage...I've seen snipers and brawlers protect juliet/romeo really well. I've gotten mostly elixirs as rewards, but did get a 60% shoe for dex lol.

sunbear
2009-01-25, 12:17 AM
Wait. Where is Yulete's lab located, in the first place?

AND I WANT THIS PQ, BUT I'M WAY OVERLEVELED.

Off-topic: There's a house which says "Under construction" in Magatia town. What is it for? Magatia PQ? Maker Skill? Thanks.

The Yurete Lab is here. This is from JMS though. The location should be the same.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1919/hatsuko297je6.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/hatsuko297je6.png/1/w420.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img407/hatsuko297je6.png/1/)

Inside.

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/3186/hatsuko298sv9.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/hatsuko298sv9.png/1/w270.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img104/hatsuko298sv9.png/1/)

The pictures are taken from a Japanese Maplers blog.
And the house is for the Maker Skill.
Hope this helps.

Tir
2009-01-27, 04:31 AM
1. Sometime in the first stage you can find Romeo's Letter (or Juliet's Letter). It's an "untradeable party-quest item". What does it do? I've seen non-leaders find it, and leaders as well, but it just goes away at the end of the quest. How and where are you supposed to use it?
Have whoever has the letter talk to Romeo/Juliet in the 4th stage (the thief/mage one). I believe it's one of the requirements to summon Angry Frankenroid. The other being having one member of the party (dunno if more than one can go, haven't tried) go into the next room first, and talk to Yulete before he mass summons. In order to do this, walk slowly until he's just barely on screen, then click on him.

2. How does one initiate all the related quests? I've done the Ostracized Research one, but most of the quests listed in haha's extraction don't appear in my "Available", and the NPC's that should start them (Romeo, Juliet, Yulete) are only in the PQ and don't seem to offer quests in there.
In order to do these, you need to "save" Yulete. Do the steps necessary to summon Angry Frankenroid (I don't know if you can do this in a normal pq, without the angry boss) when the leader is summoning the boss, make sure he/she selects the second option in the dialog. Beat the boss (you probably have to save Romeo/Juliet, too) and the quests, along with Yulete's lab will be available.

Also, just so you all know, you need 35 of each for the eye of horus, and 10 of either for a rock of wisdom.

DarkestTempest
2009-01-30, 11:04 AM
ILs honestly don't do THAT good of a job at protecting. They're passable, but they do too much damage to Neo Huroids with Ice Strike and not enough damage with Cold Beam, so they kill those things off too quickly, but if one happened to have froze on top of Romeo/Juliet, they can't remove it fast enough.

Snipers, Marauders and Outlaws are the best protectors, period (Marauder is probably better than the other two). Outlaw's blank shot doesn't do much damage, but their Burst Fire sure does if one ends up stunned on Romeo/Juliet. Ditto for Sniper (though their Blizzard does considerably more damage).

Also, as an outlaw, I found it that while protecting, I can throw grenades on Frankie and co. in between blank shots. It's quite fun.